>From a note many moons ago....

The z9 uses a fixed 2 GB for HSA "AND" that 2 GB is added to the box, over an 
above what memory you purchased.

i.e. your proposed 8 GB box will have 10 GB installed.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting
(however, I don't have any thing in writing from an IBM publication that this 
is so....but I haven't really looked either)

>>> "Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/20/2007 8:41 
>>> AM >>>
We're going for the minimum, which is 8GB. So that will be 2GB to HSA,
2GB for expanded store and 4GB for general use. Still a BIG increase.

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Feller, Paul
Sent: July 20, 2007 09:24
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O

 Watch how much memory you get on the z9 BC.  The size of the HSA jumps
up a large amount.  We just installed a z9 BC as an external coupling
facility.  We set it up for no dynamic IO changes and the HSA is still
1728 meg.


Paul Feller 
AIT Mainframe Technical Support 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(319)-355-7824 


-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:06 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Re: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O

We are running on a MP2000 with 1 gig of memory. Out of that 1 gig comes
the HSA plus additional storage CP needs to allocate dynamic devices. We
have several VSE guests to support plus some CMS workload. Occasionally
during the day, we have file transfers from VSE to Windows going through
a 600 MB v-disk. The paging load during the file transfers just kills
CMS response time. Even taking a bit more main storage to increase the
HSA for dynamic I/O just isn't a good idea.

Now, if our plans to purchase a z9 BC go through, we'll be laughing.

Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Pieter Harder
Sent: July 19, 2007 15:41
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O

I don't quite get your statement on memory demands. Dynamic I/O is done
within the Hardware Storage Area (HSA) that is allocated fixed on
Power-on-Reset after analyzing your IOCDS config. The dynamic
requirements for issuing dynamic config commands is probably to small to
measure. (Barton/Rob?)

Best regards,
Pieter Harder

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
tel  +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537

>>> "Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
07/19/07 9:31  >>>
Funny, I was just looking into using dynamic I/O on our box. See
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsg1b20.pdf, Part 2 Using
Dynamic I/O Configuration.

In our case we won't use it. We are memory constrained at times, and
don't need the aggravation of performance problems caused by the extra
memory demands of dynamic I/O.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brad Hinson
Sent: July 19, 2007 14:37
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 
Subject: Dynamic I/O

I've done a couple of disk changes recently that require updates to our
IOCDS config, and it's getting hard to schedule a Power On Reset each
time to recognize the changes.  I see a checkmark on the HMC that
indicates Dynamic I/O is possible if you have the right pieces in the
config you import.  Is anyone using Dynamic I/O, or can you point me to
some docs (or perhaps another list) on this?

Also, any docs on the format of the IODEVICE (and other) statemtents in
this config would also be useful.

Thanks,
--
Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sr. Support Engineer Lead, System z
Red Hat, Inc.
(919) 754-4198

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