We have about 65 mod 3 for 112 servers (at the moment).  About 1/2 of
them are fat WAS virtual machines.   Once we hit 50% utilization, we add
more ...

Think of it this way... Would you rather have dedicated swap (real)
disks to each virtual machine that may or may not be used or would you
rather pool them all together and have VM's very robust block paging
system manage full volumes and balance across all of them.  Easier to
monitor.. Your i/o load is spread... There's even multilevel storage of
those pages (memory, xstor, disk).

Marcy Cortes 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 6:20 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Is 275GB of VDISK stupid?

So Marcy, if you have 275GB of VDISK defined, what do you define for
total page space for your VM? Just curious. I am almost always in
disagreement with our VM guy on our configuration, but I'm getting ready
to revisit VDISK swap because we're on a new machine with more memory.
The more information I have on 'real companies' and their configurations
the less intractable he seems to be.

-J




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I haven't added it all up, but we do it that way and would have to be
either right around 275G if not over.

One thing to look out for is the vm.swappiness setting.  Seems that on
SLES
9 (latest kernel) some virtual machines have a tendency to just keep
writing more and more to swap and never free up those pages in vdisk
until the
process is stopped.   We had production machines march through all their
space and then java core dump :(.    Used page space was also growing
too
quickly without it.  Yes, swapoff/swapon would free up those pages (but
the structures would still exist in VM).

Setting kernel parameter vm.swappiness=20 seemed to prevent that.  Don't
ask me why... It just does :) (no time to go read the code and truly
understand that)...  The default is 60.

PS.  We use mod 3's for paging and mod 27's mostly for everything else.
9's seem kind of useless after you build a file system on them and only
have like 6-something Gig left.



Marcy Cortes

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