OK I see. Do you really need real cyl0 for the virtual systems?
David

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Ayer, Paul W
Sent: Wed 1/23/2008 1:19 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: dasdfmt
 
Right attached and dedicated to me was always who cares they are about
the same  ...

We have been using mini disks up to this point and the space that the
linux 
would see was always after cylinder 0 (vm staff is calling this
attached)..
dasdfmt has no effect on what VM sees for volser

Now we are doing full volumes and linux now sees cylinder 0 too (vm
staff is calling this dedicated) VM now sees whatever volser is done via
dasdfmt ...

We can and will if needed get in sync so that the volser will be unique
actually I have suggested that we just start dedicating "real addres" as
"real address" and then set the volser to "real address" for any full
volume packs ...

But was just wondering if I was missing a way to not have dasdfmt lay
down a label / volser .. looks like no ...



-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Kreuter
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:01 PM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: dasdfmt

>We have been using all vm mini disks up to this point with attach
>statements. Like;

>  attach 2021 as aa01 to systemA
>  attach 2022 as aa01 to systemB
>  attach 2023 as aa01 to systemC

Attached disks are not minidisks; the virtual system owns real cylinder
0 once the pack is attached.
It is the same as DEDicated volumes, except an attach command can be
done dynamically.

At IPL time unless you instruct system config otherwise you will have 3
volumes with the same label, true.

I don't see in your example where you are using minidisks that start on
a cylinder other than 0.

Real cylinder 0 should be avoided for virtual machine use. 
David


-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Ayer, Paul W
Sent: Wed 1/23/2008 12:56 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: dasdfmt
 
Running under z/VM 5.2 / 5.3  &  RHEL 4.4 and 4.5

We have been using all vm mini disks up to this point with attach
statements. Like;

  attach 2021 as aa01 to systemA
  attach 2022 as aa01 to systemB
  attach 2023 as aa01 to systemC

... 

Now we are starting to dedicate full disks (and share space across
LPAR's as well); 


  Dedicate 3301 as aa01 to system1
  Dedicate 3302 as aa01 to system2
  Dedicate 3303 as aa01 to system3


So the link as xxx is good on the linux side for standards and all.

The dasdfmt we have been using thus far is to set the -l to LXzzzz 
(zzzz = the address that the linux sees)

dasdfmt -b 4096 -d cdl -f /dev/dasdw  -l LXAA01 -p -y


Works fine on mini disk and the label / volser is never seen.

On dedicated full volumes the label / volser is seen and from VM's point
of view it now has three disks with a volser of LXAA01. 

I'm told this will cause a problem at VM IPL time ....

Thanks, Paul ...





-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:54 AM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: dasdfmt

>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at  8:07 AM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ayer,
Paul W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> Using dasdfmt to format ECKD disks.  Is there a way to not write a
> volser to the disk?

I imagine you could pass a string of blanks for the volser, but why do
you think you need to do that?


Mark Post

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