It's a religious debate at this point. We had our reasons for doing it the way we did at the time. YMMV.
-----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:52 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Dasd_diag_mod question I prefer running SWAPGEN under CMS before starting Linux. If my primary background were Linux, I might feel differently. Adam's fix to pick up the disk size from the directory certainly makes things easier. Dennis O'Brien My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in kickboxing. -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:59 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Dasd_diag_mod question > I guess my question would be why is a complex EXEC needed to do a > normal system administration task? It's a multi-step process whether you do it at the hypervisor level or inside the Linux guest, so you're going to need some kind of scripting either way. The basic Unix philosophy is write tools that do one thing well, then use scripting to sequence the execution of the one-thing tools to accomplish bigger tasks. You could write a custom tool that did it all -- but you'd be duplicating a lot of work and you'd have to maintain it over time. Big PITA. I happen to be of the school that it's easier and simpler for this kind of preparation work to be done at the hypervisor level, and let the guest OS concentrate on identifying stuff it can use and managing the process of devices coming and going in a rational way. In this case, also, having swap is kind of necessary to getting Linux to run decently, and it's hard to do Linux stuff without a running Linux system, so creating SWAPGEN was a way to do the deed before you had a running Linux system to do it with. > A second question is why didn't > Novell provide a straightforward method for doing this and document it > in a manual (without using a complex 3rd party EXEC) ? It sounds like the issue is more that it's a 3rd party tool than that it's done the way it's done. If either of the distributors wants to include SWAPGEN, we're open to discussing the idea. No one has asked. It would be nice if the documentation included the way to set up DIAG disk I/O, though. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. References to "Merrill Lynch" are references to any company in the Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. group of companies, which are wholly-owned by Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this E-communication may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390