You know it, I know it. But some people tend to believe only what they
*think* they know. In this case unfortunalty the monitoring team is
regarded as the specialist and I'm 'only' a VM sysprog. I have proven *)
on several occasions that the numbers are off, in some case even way off
but still they are convinced the tooling on linux is telling the truth.
It is hard to convice management that our VM numbers are more correct
when so-called specialists only narrow their view to a single guest.
Especially the blipping thing is so hard to explain when everbody else
is telling that they don't see anything wrong. (nothing wrong, no
problem, so stop complaining). So therefore my question, how to convice
them in a way I didn't think of (yet).

*) I once did an install in a small LPAR (small in CPU resources that
is, storage was enough). The LPAR had so little MIPS available that any
linuxactivity quickly  drove the real CPU to 100%. Next, 1 linuxguest
was running an install. The other 2 linuxguests were idle or next to
idle. The performance toolkit revealed that 1 server was running over
90%. The other two at 0.2%. The two linux guests themselves however
report they were both running at 100% CPU. While only the one other
guest was truly running at next to 100%. As long as the LPAR isn't
running at full load the numbers keep more or less in line with the
truth. But once CP is deciding who gets the resources linux is clueless
as to what it's actual resource usage is.

Berry. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Rich Smrcina
Sent: vrijdag 20 augustus 2010 1:39
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: How to convince others. Was: Re: mono keep guest active -
ban the blips.



When your monitoring department looks at top, vmstat and sar to detect
problems, don't forget the kernel numbers lie.  Even the new steal timer
is a little off.



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