If you do a Q DASD DETAILS against the address -- and see a null for VOLSER= - then it has no label and hasn't been initialized .. if you see VOLSER=FREE then it's been initialized and given a label of FREE.
Scott Rohling On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Cameron Seay <cws...@gmail.com> wrote: > So when I see free that is not a sysprog assigned label, but an indication > of being uninitialized? > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:26 AM, Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I don't think your seeing labels of 'FREE' - I think your seeing > > uninitialized DASD. What does Q DASD DETAILS aaaa show for VOLSER=? > > Maybe we were confusing the term 'allocation'.. in any case - this > DASD > > would appear not to be used at all. VARY OFF aaaa and VARY ON aaaa and > > then QUERY again to be sure. But if it shows FREE .. it is probably > just > > not initialized for use. > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Cameron Seay <cws...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Is it a reliable method to label the volumes as FREE when you create > > them, > > > but when you allocate them change the label to something else? That is > > the > > > method we are using. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Alan Altmark < > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Available dasd is in the eye of the beholder. Here is how I look at > > the > > > > world. > > > > > > > > If the dasd volume is in your LPAR's I/O configuration, it's > "visible." > > > > > > > > If a visible volume has been assigned to your VM LPAR it is > > "available". > > > > > > > > If an available dasd volume has been formatted so as to remove any > > > > residual data and assigned a label, it is "eligible." > > > > > > > > If an eligible volume has been placed in the pool of dasd that you > take > > > > from to satisfy system or virtual machine needs, it is "unallocated." > > > > > > > > When an unallocated volume is subsequently allocated for use by CP, > it > > is > > > > a "CP-owned" volume. > > > > > > > > When an unallocated volume is allocated for use by one or more > virtual > > > > machines, it is a "user" volume. > > > > > > > > A volume that is currently neither attached to SYSTEM nor a user is > > FREE > > > > according to QUERY DASD. You cannot reliably infer any of the above > > > roles > > > > if it says FREE. > > > > > > > > For example a dedicated user volume will show FREE until the user who > > has > > > > it logs on. Likewise for DEVNO minidisks. > > > > > > > > And as Scott said, you may have visible dasd that are not available. > > > > > > > > So it takes a good process to reliably track the life of a volume. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alan Altmark > > > > IBM Lab Services > > > > > > > > ----------------- > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Cameron Seay [cws...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: 06/21/2014 09:18 PM AST > > > > To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu > > > > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Which DASD is free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Scott. What information is needed. There has to be a way to > > > > determine which volumes you can use. > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Scott Rohling < > > scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sorry - should have been 'DASD which is currently NOT in use by a > > user > > > or > > > > > the system'.. > > > > > > > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > > LINUX-390 > > > or > > > > > visit > > > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > > > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Cameron Seay, Ph.D. > > > > Department of Computer Systems Technology > > > > School of Technology > > > > NC A & T State University > > > > Greensboro, NC > > > > 336 334 7717 x2251 > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 > > or > > > > visit > > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 > > or > > > > visit > > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Cameron Seay, Ph.D. > > > Department of Computer Systems Technology > > > School of Technology > > > NC A & T State University > > > Greensboro, NC > > > 336 334 7717 x2251 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or > > > visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > > > -- > Cameron Seay, Ph.D. > Department of Computer Systems Technology > School of Technology > NC A & T State University > Greensboro, NC > 336 334 7717 x2251 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
