Nice.. another version of one of my favorite lines: If you were right I'd agree with you.
;-) Scott Rohling On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Rick Troth <r...@casita.net> wrote: > We might be in agreement except for your incorrect use of the word "no". > > > On 12/04/2015 08:52 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > >> > MVS should grow up. > > No, ... > > Yes, MVS should grow up. > But we'll consider that out of scope for this conversation. > Okay? > > > > ... Linux should obey the IBM VOL1 label standard when using ECKD > devices, > > just like everyone else. In fact, if I were asked (I haven't been), I > > would suggest that it use the CPVOLUME format. That's one that MVS > > already recognizes, and whose reactions Certain People are expending > > effort to improve upon. > > The objection is to track-and-record behavior in support of CDL. > I didn't hear anyone complain about VOL1, and I don't recall complaining > about it myself. > Reason for rant is the tricks with tracks, which only loosely links with > labeling. > > AS IT HAPPENS, the CPVOLUME form of VOL1 label fits nicely at the front > of an EXT2/3/4 filesystem. > > > > Alternatively, Linux could obtain, via IBM channels, an official VOL1 > > standard version ID. E.g. one that has zeroes in the VTOC address > > indicating no VTOC. > > So much the better. > > > > If there were no VTOC, then a volumes could be entirely formatted with 4K > > records. The label is defined in the VOL1 label standard to be a > > *minimum* of 80 bytes. It can be 4096. It's the VTOC that's creates the > > problem. > > Agreed. > > > > All of the OSes would have to recognize it since "version number" is part > > of the standard, specifically designed for building interoperable labels. > > Interoperability is a good thing. > > > -- R; <>< > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/