Yes it probably would -- my automatic reaction to this is to get OPERATOR back as SYSOPER and keeping that operator log going...
Thanks for the reminder -- that would be more expedient if you're in a pinch.. plus with RACF down - logging into OPERATOR might be difficult.... So good catch. Scott Rohling On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Rothman, Peter < peter.roth...@travelport.com> wrote: > Would a "TERM MODE VM" work? > That is before the "IPL 190" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Scott Rohling > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 1:40 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Instructions for z/VM RSU1601 are not working in regards to > RACF > > I should have said after logging on to OPERATOR -- issue SET SYSOPER > OPERATOR before the #CP DISC. It hopefully got set to SYSOPER itself but > this makes sure. > > To explain -- if OPERATOR is logged off - the next lucky guest with the > right level of CP classes (A,B, etc) gets set to SYSOPER and now > essentially can only run CP commands. Many shops run something regularly > to check of OPERATOR is down or SYSOPER is not set to OPERATOR and correct > it. Bottom line: Keep OPERATOR logged on at all times - only use > #CP DISC to end the terminal session. It is important that OPERATOR is > available to receive system messages and keep a console log... > > Scott Rohling > > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I suspect you have been made OPERATOR because OPERATOR is logged off. > > Enter QUERY SYSOPER to see.... > > > > If it is RACMAINT then: > > > > - logoff RACMAINT > > - Logon OPERATOR and then #CP DISC to leave it running > > - Logon to RACMAINT as you did before > > > > Scott Rohling > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Will, Chris <cw...@bcbsm.com> wrote: > > > >> Here is what I am doing. First force out RACFVM. > >> > >> 13:17:53 FORCE RACFVM > >> RACFVM : CONNECT= 00:06:45 VIRTCPU= 000:00.08 TOTCPU= 000:00.10 > >> RACFVM : LOGOFF AT 13:17:53 EDT MONDAY 05/02/16 BY OPERATOR > >> 13:17:53 USER DSC LOGOFF AS RACFVM USERS = 32 FORCED BY OPERATOR > >> 13:17:53 HCPRPI036E CP/RACF communication path broken to RACFVM > >> RACFVM : RDR FILE 0036 SENT FROM RACFVM CON WAS 0036 RECS 0049 CPY > >> 001 T NOH > >> OLD NOKEEP > >> > >> Next logon to RACMAINT > >> > >> 13:19:16 IPL 190 > >> z/VM V6.3.0 2015-11-02 11:41 > >> > >> DMSACP723I D (192) R/O > >> DMSACP723I B (305) R/O > >> DMSACP723I T (190) R/O > >> DMSACP725I 190 also = S disk > >> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:19:17 > >> 13:20:35 RACFCONV > >> 13:20:35 HCPCMD001E Unknown CP command: RACFCONV > >> > >> > >> > >> Chris Will > >> Systems Software > >> (313) 549-9729 Cell > >> cw...@bcbsm.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > >> Scott Rohling > >> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 1:14 PM > >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > >> Subject: Re: Instructions for z/VM RSU1601 are not working in regards > >> to RACF > >> > >> Can you show the lines from the console when you do the 'IPL 190' ? It > >> almost sounds like you are still in CP -- after the IPL 190 (and > >> hitting > >> ENTER when you see VM READ) you should see some messages like this: > >> > >> i 190 > >> z/VM V6.3.0 2016-03-20 17:29 > >> > >> DMSACP723I D (192) R/O > >> DMSACP723I B (305) R/O > >> DMSACP723I T (190) R/O > >> DMSACP725I 190 also = S disk > >> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:13:32 > >> > >> RACFCONV EXEC is on the B disk (305).... > >> > >> Scott Rohling > >> > >> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Will, Chris <cw...@bcbsm.com> wrote: > >> > >> > I got through the service all portion of the upgrade and am now > >> > trying to figure out the RACFCONV instructions from VM65719. It > >> > says to run the following commands but I keep getting a CP UNKNOWN > >> > command after the RACFCONV command (or any other cms command). Is > this correct? > >> > > >> > The RACF database templates have been updated as part of this APAR. > >> > Use the RACFCONV utility on the RACMAINT userid to update the > >> > templates for both the primary and the backup RACF database. If > >> > you running a 1-4 member SSI system, follow these > >> > instructions: > >> > 1. For 1-4 member SSI, verify the CP directory entry for the > >> > RACMAINT userid has: > >> > LINK RACFVM 200 200 MW > >> > LINK RACFVM 300 300 MW > >> > 2. SERVICE RACF from MAINT630 on only one SSI member. > >> > 3. FORCE RACFVM from Operator from each SSI member. > >> > 4. LOGON RACMAINT from Operator on one SSI member and run the <<how > >> > can you "logon" from operator?? > >> > RACFCONV utility as follows: > >> > IPL 190 > >> > RACFCONV <<here is where I get the CP UNKNOWN error > >> > enter > >> > 200 > >> > yes > >> > > >> > RACFCONV > >> > enter > >> > 300 > >> > yes > >> > > >> > IPL 490 > >> > RACSTART > >> > #cp disc > >> > > >> > > >> > Chris Will > >> > Systems Software > >> > (313) 549-9729 Cell > >> > cw...@bcbsm.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The information contained in this communication is highly > >> > confidential and is intended solely for the use of the > >> > individual(s) to whom this communication is directed. If you are > >> > not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > >> > viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information is > >> > prohibited. 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