I think OpenSUSE Tumbleweed s390x does not run on Hercules due to missing 
instructions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rick Troth
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 1:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Clarification: OpenSUSE on Hercules

For clarity:
I am trying to run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed "s390x"
on top of Hercules
on top of OpenSUSE Tumbleweed "x86_64".


don't overthink it



On 8/26/24 4:29 PM, Paul Dembry wrote:
> I think Rick is trying this
>
> OpenSUSE running on
>       ^
>       |
>       |
> Hercules running on
>       ^
>       |
>       |
> Some os
>
> IOW OpenSUSE S390x on top of Hercules, not Hercules on top of OpenSUSE. IIRC 
> the more recent versions of OpenSUSE and RedHat (I think RH 8.x) require 
> certain instructions that are not supported on Hercules. I goofed around with 
> RH 8.x and think I got it to work using qemu s390 but cannot say for sure as 
> it was a couple of years ago. I didn't really need anything higher than RH 
> 7.x so it was just an exercise.
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul 
> Flint
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 1:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Clarification: OpenSUSE on Hercules
>
> Greetings Truth
>
> To clarify, you are operating SUSE Tumbleweed as the base system on 
> some random intel-type iron.  On top of this you want to operate 
> Hercules, apparently this is part of your studied plan for world 
> domination. (I am good with this :^)
>
> This is where I get a bit confused.  I use Hercules to boot IBM VM 370.
> This was enough of an entertainment that I folded Hercules and VM into a 
> Docker container and stuck the whole beta out there as "BaBy Bear VM"
> (http://bbbvm.org/),
>
> So the question I have is do you need code to run on top of Hercules on top 
> of Tumbleweed, or did I misunderstand?
>
> If you are interested, this evening the Barre Open System Institute (BOSI)  
> has our regular meeting at the York Library in East Barre, we shall use 
> meet.jit.si/bosi to connect. Come on to meet.Jit.si/bosi 
> <http://meet.jit.si/bosi> at 6PM!
>
> Feel free to click the following link (around 6PM tonight) to join the
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>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:06 PM Rick Troth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I need OpenSUSE on Hercules and have so far been unable to install 
>> either of these:
>>
>>
>>      openSUSE-Leap-15.6-DVD-s390x-Build710.3-Media
>>      openSUSE-Tumbleweed-NET-s390x-Snapshot20240819-Media
>>
>>
>> Months ago, I tried other releases/snap-shots. No joy then either.
>>
>> I have tried supplying the kernel, INITRD, and parm file via 00C reader.
>> Didn't work. I have also tried Hercules IPL from ".ins" file.
>> After about 4 or 5 minutes, the run consistently ends with something 
>> like ...
>>
>>
>>      T1! ------------ cut here !------------
>>
>>
>>    ... sometimes followed by (what appears to be) a wait state code, 
>> sometimes not. In all cases the emulator stops with a disabled wait.
>>
>> My preference is OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, but Leap works "if I gotta".
>> I'd like to install to un-partitioned FBA, but I've switched to CKD 
>> in case FBA was/is causing the installer heartburn.
>> I've also tried to change the device addresses to match what the 
>> samples have. Still nuttin, honey.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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