Quoting Agus Budy Wuysang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12-Aug-2003,
> Firman Pribadi wrote:
> >Quoting IYAN 
> 
> Kalau ping generate error '2>&1' yang terakhir tidak
> akan memblock.
> 
> ping ...  2>&1 | grep -q ...  > /dev/null 2>&1
benul!
dan itu kesalahan saya , thanks :)

> Syntax "{ }" anda diatas sepertinya tidak valid untuk bash,
> mirip kombinasi ksh, tcsh, perl & C :)
ini bukan kombinasi itu saja...

dari bash(1) :
RESERVED WORDS
Reserved  words  are words that have a special meaning to the shell.  The
following words are recognized as reserved when unquoted and either the
first word of a simple command (see SHELL GRAMMAR below) or the third word
of a case or for command:

! case do done elif else esac fi for function if in select then until while { } time 
[[ ]]
---
Compound Commands
....
{ list; }
list  is  simply  executed in the current shell environment.  list must be
terminated with a newline or semicolon.  This is known as a group
command....

jadi kalo anda suatu waktu -atau- sudah terbiasa dengan 'function' di bash,
benda itu akan berdampak 'usefull' atau 'useless' tergantung dari habbit
programmingnya dimana.

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Firman Pribadi
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Saat sadar akan kesalahan, saat itu Allah mencintai kita, karena dengan
kesadaran itu kita akan bertaubat, saat itulah cinta dan ampunan Nya
tercurah./MQ


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