Linux-Advocacy Digest #632, Volume #28 Fri, 25 Aug 00 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: BASIC == Beginners language (Was: Just curious.... (Courageous)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Donovan
Rebbechi)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Mark Preston)
Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers (Jure Sah)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Craig Kelley)
PROMIS-software for worldwide spy network by US/Isreal (Eriavierta)
Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Byron A
Jeff)
Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Courageous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: BASIC == Beginners language (Was: Just curious....
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:15:53 GMT
> >> The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> [*] There are proper ways of using GOTO, mostly to get out of a
> >>> deeply-nested inner loop.
Often unnecessary with "finally" in Java, for example.
C//
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 25 Aug 2000 18:21:50 GMT
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:00:24 -0400, Donavon Pfeiffer Jr wrote:
>
>> (1) I thought that teenage girls were legally dependent on their parents,
>> not the state.
>
> Oh,no not anymore. Now "It takes a friggin village". Parents have no
> say.
What do you mean ?
> Actually that is only true in states where fiscal responsibility
> has
>gained import. While that is an ever growing number (witness the # of
>Republican Governor's) it is in no way universal.
The welfare reform bill was passed at a federal level. Sure, the states
have differing implementations. However, the welfare rolls have been cut
in half, so it seems that it has been effective overall.
>> What, you think that the welfare slobs actually *vote* ??? Hahahahahaa ...
>
> Actually , locally they do. The Democratic Party candidates
> organise rides for them to get to the polls.
What percentage of "welfare slobs" vote ?
> Recently, and rather than ending the "I'll increase your benefits"
>rhetoric, it moved it to medicare,medicade and social security.
These are not exclusively for "welfare slobs".
> Increased Medicare,universal health care "for the poor" are examples of
>what?
They are examples of benefits that are available for everyone. For example,
"universal health care" means that everyone has access to health care. It
is not exclusively for "welfare slobs".
>"disability". It allowed him to collect other benefits such as subsidized
>housing and maintain his drug habit until it killed him.
If the republicans had their way, the state would've locked him up and
thrown away the key.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Preston)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:37:25 GMT
On 24 Aug 2000 09:10:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) wrote:
>In article <3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to create a
>new
>>concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology and the
>>know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its side and
>>view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely change
>>the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and you can
>>make it happen.
>
>XML is bullshit. Go Away.
>
Although this message was cross-posted to lots of groups, you will
find that they are all either Linux or XML groups. Both XML and Linux
are leaning towards simplification of software management with such
creations as the new SCO-Linux alliance and the XUL / CSS interface
definition of the GUI in Netscape 6.
To make such a broad statement, so far out of the appropriate context,
does not further discussion.
--
Mark A Preston BSc, FIAP
The Magpie's Nest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jure Sah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:58:35 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Reminds me of the microsoft FUDsters touting how great windows 95 was,
> invading the os/2 newsgroups.
Hey, Windows'95 works just fine and fast, you just have to care about it
a little.
For instance, I fixed 2 computers at my previous school from a very deep
dungeons to nice functionality with Windows'95 and all my friend's
attempts to ruin the system again have failed so far.
> W2K is just catching up with 70's technology. It is nothing to be proud
> of.
What do you like more the Nintedo2k? Kill... They are behind time, not
MS!
--
If you ask me, a 4 byte cookie is rather big. But I don't think it
depends on my modem, it depends on how much I can bite at once... =)
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GTSC4 -- If nobody else wants to do it, why shouldn't we?(TM)
Http://www.geocities.com/gtsc4/index.html
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Aug 2000 12:55:34 -0600
"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip example of bad XML]
> But it does tremendously violate the *spirit* of XML. XML is supposed
> to be human-readable.
And HTML was supposed to be a document tagging system (ie, using
STRONG, EM, QUOTE, etc.); instead it turned into a bad word processing
mess (I, B, BLINK).
Never underestimate the ability of humans to screw things up
(intentionally, more often than not). It'll be interesting to see
how Microsoft's XML looks; I'll give 3:1 odds that it looks like all
those 100-character messes you see in the Windows registry.
> In a binary format, you'd always be at risk of problems due to
> variable field length. That can't happen with XML.
Sure it can:
<MSWORDDATA>
sdlkfjsda;lfkjsda f;lsdkf 2340985r32j23lkr2j r23o978xdf0sdjalfkwj 32
</MSWORDDATA>
(where that contains some encoded table)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Eriavierta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PROMIS-software for worldwide spy network by US/Isreal
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:43:37 -0500
Here is the link from Reuters:
http://news.excite.com/news/r/000825/11/canada-spying
Here are some more interesting links I found for this amazing spy
network:
http://www.federal.com/inslawsc.html
http://www.eff.org/pub/Legal/Cases/INSLAW/
http://www.wwfreepress.com/inslaw.html
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon7.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:14:57 GMT
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:58:35 +0200, Jure Sah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Reminds me of the microsoft FUDsters touting how great windows 95 was,
>> invading the os/2 newsgroups.
>
>Hey, Windows'95 works just fine and fast, you just have to care about it
>a little.
My biggest problem w/ friends who bring me their fucked up computers is
after I restore windoze to plead with them not to install every piece of
crap software like IE that comes their way.
W95 lets any program corrupt any file at any time. The 386 architecture had
been out for nearly ten years and MS should be ashamed for not using it.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:24:03 -0400
Joe Ragosta wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Courageous wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I suspect that you are behind the times. Furthermore, we're
> > > > > arguing about peanuts. Why get all in a rile over peanuts
> > > > > when there are issues where SERIOUS MONEY is at stake? Look
> > > >
> > > > As of 1995, Wealth-redistribution "entitlements" made up 45% of
> > > > the budget, and was growing. ( The Republican congress may have
> > > > derailed this trend, however :-)
> > >
> > > A bait and switch. When you're talking about Social Security,
> > > make sure you say so. This isn't what the average person thinks
> > > of when you say "welfare".
> >
> > Social Security is *NOT* a retirement plan. It *IS* welfare.
> >
> > All of these "I paid in for 45 years" arguments are bullshit.
> > The senior citizens ****FAILED**** to keep tabs on what Congress was
> > doing, and ****FAILED**** to investigate SS enough to recognize it for
> > the Ponzi scheme that it is.
>
> Actually, that's not quite true.
>
> Once you're a senior citizen, you've already paid in most of what you
> can expect to pay during your lifetime. Therefore, if they're paying
So, big whoop de doo.
How does the fact that they paid a bunch of con-men for
several decades obligate *me* to fulfill the con-men's promises????
> attention, they _would_ want benefits to increase. All that they need to
> do is set the benefits at a level that can be sustained for their
> lifetime.
Look, we had a couple generation of socialist "something-for-nothing"
tooth-fairy believers. I AM *NOT* the fucking tooth fairy, and
refuse to be gouged as if I were.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:27:07 -0400
Joe Ragosta wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Donavon Pfeiffer Jr wrote:
> > >
> > > One way is the method Ted Kennedy uses: the blind trust. Another way
> > > to reduce
> > > your taxes is charitable contributions. If someone wants to argue that
> > > Bill
> >
> >
> > Charitable contributions do *NOT* lower your taxes...they lower your
> > *taxable income*
>
> They also lower your taxes -- by an amount equal to the reduction in
> your taxable income times your effective tax rate.
If you have no taxable income, then a charitable contribution
doesn't change your taxes in the slightest.
>
> >
> >
> > So, if you give away $10,000,000 to charity, that does NOT knock off
> > $10,000,000 from your taxes.....it knocks off $10,000,000 from your
> > taxable income (which, at best, only reduces your taxes by $4,000,000).
> >
>
> True.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re:
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:27:42 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:06:21 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> Hate to say it, but I'd suspect that a lot of your detractors are
> >> exceptionally intelligent if you're prepared to accept the limited
> >> definition of intelligence that you keep promoting. Speaking for myself,
> >> I'm more "intelligent" than Feynman (-;
> >>
> >
> >Have you travelled to Sweden yet?
>
> No. The above question is pertinent and relevant because ?
Then obviously, you haven't been awarded the Nobel Prize.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:28:34 -0400
Donavon Pfeiffer Jr wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Mike Marion wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The whole nation would benefit greatly if a couple of these slimeballs
> > > > wound up dead of unnatural, violent causes under mysterious
> > > > circumstances.
> > >
> > > I'm assuming you mean someone from the IRS?
> > >
> > > > Those who seek to benefit of it can be be morally held responsible
> > > > for partaking in the whole immoral system:
> > > >
> > > > Accepting pay to enforce a tax code which they KNOW is used for
> > > > immoral purposes (Robbing workers to pay the irresponsible and
> > > > lazy--I.e. they are accessories to felony theft, or enslavement,
> > >
> > > I hope you don't mean that by accepting pay for a job that you're a part of
> > > the problem just because you know that your taxes are misuesed... if that is
> > > what you mean, how to you suggest one get by in this country without a job and
> > > pay?
> >
> > If every agent resigned, effective immediately for reasons of
> > Unconstitutional
> > Misuse of Funds,... Congress would be FORCED to cut out the
> > uncsonstitutional
> > spending.
>
> >
> >
> > The ONLY reason it's successful is because there are enforcement
> > officers
> > willing to go along with the illegal spending.
> >
>
> The fact that so many citizens wouldn't recognise the Constitution if it
> were staple to their forehead helps as well.
Sad, but true.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:31:51 -0400
Courageous wrote:
>
> > > A bait and switch. When you're talking about Social Security,
> > > make sure you say so. This isn't what the average person thinks
> > > of when you say "welfare".
> >
> > Social Security is *NOT* a retirement plan. It *IS* welfare.
>
> I understand atll that, Aaron. But when your average person says
> "welfare," that's not what they mean. Therefore, if you'd like to
Of course not...it's only "the other guys" who are on welfare.
The problem is, the "middle class" foolishly bought into the
welfare state, and now their grandchildren are being forced to
finance this Alice-in-Wonderland system.
> communicate clearly, you'll have to change the way you word things.
Social Security IS welfare. IT was DESIGNED as a welfare program.
People had better start understanding that, because that'st the
underlying problem with the whole SS system. Until people are
willing to confront the fact that there is nothing in the structure
that even resembles a true retirement system, then there will be
no solving the mess.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:32:40 -0400
Courageous wrote:
>
> > So just because big crimes occur, it's OK to ignore smaller ones?
>
> You can focus on the small things, but when you do, you'll
> be guilty of evading the issues on the big things.
"broken window" theory says otherwise.
If you vigorously prosecute small-time offenders, people
tend not to slide into larger and larger crimes.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: 25 Aug 2000 15:37:22 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
->
-> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:16:04 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
-> >however you choose to characterize it), and of course, the welfare
-> >slobs themselves (who are demonstrate culpability every time they
-> >cash a "gimme dat welfare" check.
->
-> You make it sound as though the national budget is spent entirely
-> on these "welfare slobs" that you keep demonising. This is woefully
-> innaccurate, especially now that the welfare reform laws have gone
-> through.
-
-They are decreasing, but we are still subsidizing out-of-wedlock
-pregnancies for high school girls.
-
-And it is mandatory to get rid of the "i'm-an-irresponsible-idiot"
-welfare of leftist socialism if we ever want to get rid of the
-fascist corporate welfare.
-
---
-Aaron R. Kulkis
OK Aaron. Let's look at the flip side of the coin. Let's imagine you've
been granted your wish. SSI, Medicare, AFDC, and income tax are all
abolished. Is Minimum wage and Public Education dismissed too?
Now what?
Specifically target you answer towards the two constituencies that are
often unable to fend for themselves: children and the elderly. What happens
to them now?
It's clear you have significant issues with the current system. Please
describe the system you'd like to see.
BAJ
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:34:32 -0400
Jure Sah wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Reminds me of the microsoft FUDsters touting how great windows 95 was,
> > invading the os/2 newsgroups.
>
> Hey, Windows'95 works just fine and fast,
That's a funny way to spell "crashes alot"
> you just have to care about it a little.
you misspelled "constantly"
> For instance, I fixed 2 computers at my previous school from a very deep
> dungeons to nice functionality with Windows'95 and all my friend's
> attempts to ruin the system again have failed so far.
Try using a NON-windows Operating System, and get back to us.
Unix was more stable in 1975 than Windows can manage today.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:38:38 -0400
Joe Ragosta wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andre
> Ervin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Andre Ervin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "ZnU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You mean Bush wants to give people their money back instead of
> > > > > > > spending it for them!? How absurd!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bush wants to make the rich richer instead of helping the poor
> > > > > > stay
> > > > > > healthy and educated.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's SOOOO OLD. Nothing is that simple. It's more of a 50 year
> > > > > old
> > > > > democratic slogan than anything. Not even worthy of argument except
> > > > > to
> > > say
> > > > > 95% of the poor are in that situation by choice, it's the five out
> > > > > of
> > > 100
> > > > > poor that need a hand.
> > > >
> > > > Proof? For that matter, how many truly poor people do you know?
> > >
> > > I've met a lot of truly poor people in my life, and myself have been
> > > pleny
> > > broke and hungry. I never blamed anyone - especially "the rich" for my
> > > problems though, I blamed myself.
> > > If you are a poor adult, it is most generaly it is your own fault.
> >
> > It's your fault that you grew up poor, had almost no opportunities to
> > better yourself, struggled through a piss-poor educational system geared
> > more toward keeping you disciplined than teaching you important skills,
> > and can't find a job that will help you get the skills you need to get a
> > better-paying job? It's your fault that the odds are stacked even
> > higher against you with such a background to make it _to_ a college,
> > much less _through_ one? It's your fault that perception means a lot in
> > the job market, and you may not fit the perception?
>
> Well, let's see.
>
> I grew up with 10 brothers and sisters. There were times when we barely
> had enough to eat and new clothes were a rare treat. We never received a
> penny of welfare.
>
> I went to school in a particularly bad rural school in Western
> Pennsylvania.
>
> Yet I managed to get a scholarship and loans for Penn State, worked my
> way through school, got into graduate school at Cornell, progressed
> through several jobs of increasing responsibility and ended up as
> President of a small company where I'm making quite a lot of money
> (certainly far more than the level that Democrats consider wealthy,
> although I think their cutoff is way too low).
>
> So what part of the things you cited is impossible?
According to Liberals....it's not fair...because...YOU SUCCEEDED!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
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