Linux-Advocacy Digest #666, Volume #28 Sun, 27 Aug 00 00:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Chad Irby)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Eric
Bennett)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
Re: GUI vs Command Line: The useless war ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chad Irby)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Gary Hallock)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (Joe
Ragosta)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (ZnU)
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:57:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ZnU wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:35:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:46:55 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > >> >> -Children are already the responsibility of their parents.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> And children are punished for the sins of their parents?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Darwinism in action.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Darwinism is about "survival of the fittest", not "survival of
> > > > >> the fattest".
> > > > >
> > > > >Those who can't feed themselves and their children are not fit.
> > > > >QED.
> > > >
> > > > Again, you make the flawed assumption that the unfitness of the
> > > > parents implies the unfitness of their children.
> > >
> > > That's the safe way to bet.
> >
> > What is your justification for this?
>
> How many high academic achievers can you find in, oh,
>
> South Central LA
> the Cabrini Green or Robert Taylor Homes housing projects in Chicago.
> or any other slum of choice (including trailer parks).
Are you saying these people are inherently inferior?
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From: Chad Irby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:58:36 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or the fact that US teenagers routinely rank ***LAST*** for all
> industrialized nations in:
>
> Mathematics
> Basic Physical Sciences (biology, chemistry and physics)
> World History
Yet for some reason, we consistently rank *first* in doing things like
creating new technologies, worker productivity, and gross national
product, versus those other countries that have high test scores but
can't get it together otherwise.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ for some reason, refer to me as an "optimist."
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:58:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:06:40 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > >Actually, public education usually has the *highest* per-pupil
> > >spending [for "average" kids] while still having lousy results.
> > >
> > >Why is that?
> >
> > What do you mean by "lousy results" ? The kids in public schools
> > probably aren't as good on average,
>
> And why is that?
Because private schools are typically quite selective about who they'll
accept, obviously.
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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:00:52 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arthur Frain wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > > Personally, I'm not a Catholic, never have been, and have fundamental
> > > disagreements with their religious dogma.
> >
> > > However, given a choice, I would send my kids to a Catholic school
> > > before sending them to a public school.
> >
> > Then why did you choose Purdue over a perfectly good
> > nearby Catholic school like Notre Dame?
>
> 1. I'm talking about K-12 education.
We're talking about education, period. If public schools can do a good
job at the college level, what is the reason you think they couldn't do
well elsewhere?
> 2. I attended school 20 years ago. I'm talking about *NOW*.
So what? The principles are the same, aren't they? If 20 years ago the
public schools were good, then presumably we can make them good again,
right?
--
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
Anybody that wants the presidency so much that he'll spend two years organizing
and campaigning for it is not to be trusted with the office. -David Broder
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:15:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:05:23 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > >I get to keep the money I earn, and personally direct what money I
> > >feel to those in need of help WHO I SEE MAKING AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE
> > >THEMSELVES.
> >
> > Bullshit. At least have the decency to admit that you just want more
> > money.
> >
> > >I can send my kids to the school of my choosing, without having to
> > >pay "double" .... due to the fact that my money is no longer being
> > >stolen to finance a corrupt school system which is mostly interested
> > >in disseminating leftist propaganda, homosexuality advocacy, and
> >
> > Since you seem to be concerned about the less intelligent people
> > breeding,
> > why are you so strongly against the supposed "advocacy" of
> > homosexuality ?
> > It would seem that your position on population would be more consistent
> > with a position that homosexuality should be advocated, as it would
> > make
> > the so-called "defectives" less prone to breeding.
> >
> > >other destructive ideas, at the expense of basic reading, writing,
> > >mathematics and history.
> >
> > On what grounds do you make the claim that "basic reading, writing,
> > mathematics and history" have suffered ?
>
> The fact that we have so many "high school graduates" who cannot
> even read, let alone solve simple algebra problems, nor correctly
> identify "New Mexico" as being one of the 50 States of the United
> States of America. (Let alone correctly match capitals like
> Paris, London, Rome, and Berlin with the proper country).
>
> Or the fact that US teenagers routinely rank ***LAST*** for all
> industrialized nations in:
>
> Mathematics
> Basic Physical Sciences (biology, chemistry and physics)
> World History
And almost all of the other industrialized nations are much more
socialist than we are....
[snip]
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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:18:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZnU
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZnU
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Is it also theft any time I pay taxes to the government, and I
> > > > don't get back all that money in the form of government services?
> > > > If so, then we have a society Robin Hood would be quite proud
> > > > of.
> > >
> > > The more fortunate are paying for the benefit of not having the
> > > less fortunate starving in the streets.
> >
> > Now, isn't that exactly an argument I could use to say that even if
> > you never get paid social security benefits, they payroll tax wasn't
> > stolen from you, because you got the benefit of not having the less
> > fortunate starving in the streets?
>
> Yes. But what comes along with the idea of preventing people from
> starving in the streets in the assumption that you yourself won't be
> allowed to starve if it ever comes down to that. If you eliminate social
> security you eliminate that safety net.
There are several problems with that.
1. A "safety net" can mean a lot of different things. For some people,
it's only meant to cover the most dire emergencies. For others, it's
meant to cover every little thing that could go wrong -- and ends up
being a way of life.
2. I have sufficient savings and insurance to provide my own safety net.
Barring that, I have a family. Then a church. The argument you're facing
is that people should rely on their own resources _first_. What's
happening is that they're relying on the government first.
--
Regards,
Joe Ragosta
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GUI vs Command Line: The useless war
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:08:04 GMT
When I used to admin AIX systems, I can remember many times clicking
through a sequence of a dozen slow-loading SMIT windows and answering
numerous questions only to look in the SMIT logfile later and see that
the result was a single six-letter command with a single argument.
If I use a command often, I prefer to type it at a CLI prompt. If its
something that I don't use often and/or don't remember the syntax, I'll
use the GUI. I use both, I need both.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:19:36 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> Pulling out of an active warzone without surrendering all of your men
> and equipment is NOT an easy task, ESPECIALLY when your forces are
> the strongest in said warzone. (i.e. you cannot rely on any other
> friendly force to effectively cover your withdrawal).
>
The time it took Nixon to pull out of Vietnam was longer than the length most
wars. Of course, in the meantime he expanded the war into Cambodia. Nixon
himself said during his 1968 campaign that anyone who can't get us out of
Vietnam in less than 4 years doesn't deserve to be president. He had to eat
those words in 1972. And to be precise, the war ended for the US during the
Ford administration, not Nixon. How old are you? Were you around during the
war? I was. I grew up with the war. Do you remember the millions of people
demonstrating against the war? How about Kent state? Nixon finally started
the process of pulling out of Vietnam due to the pressure from public opinion,
nothing else.
Gary
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From: Chad Irby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:52:53 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Johnson got us IN
> Nixon got us OUT.
>
> Spot the difference.
You mean "Eisenhower got us IN, Nixon got us out, after a
near-revolution by folks who didn't want the war, and partly because he
was trying to find ways to make nice and not go to prison."
You also neglect to mention that compared to modern politics, the
"Democrats" back then would be considered "Republicans" by modern
Americans, and the Republicans back then would be considered Klansmen
nowadays...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ for some reason, refer to me as an "optimist."
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:23:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:04:53 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >>
> >
> > >> Again, you make the flawed assumption that the unfitness of the
> > >> parents implies the unfitness of their children.
> > >
> > >That's the safe way to bet.
> >
> > If you want to go on statistics alone, and make blanket assumptions
> > based on averages, I ask you this -- would you endorse a company
> > policy that dictates that African Americans shouldn't be hired due
> > to the fact that the "safe way to bet" is that they have inferior
> > "intelligence" ( despite considerable overlap of different ethnic
> > groups ... ) Oh, I refer you to your "bible" for the relevant
> > statistics.
>
> No. Simply overturn the Supreme Court ruling that disallows IQ tests
> for job placement.
It's impossible to even come up with a single number to accurately
represent microprocessor performance and you think the same can be done
for the human brain?
> [Yes, Congress *CAN* overturn an SC ruling...that's why you hear
> congress always blabbing about overturning the "flag burning"
> decision -- nothing worse than some asshole politician who wants to
> wrap himself in the flag and burn the constitution, rather than wrap
> himself in the constitution, and allow some nut to burn a flag.
>
> If any politician feels threatened by a citizen burning a flag, then
> perhaps that very same politician has a guilty conscience and should
> remove himself (or herself) from office post-haste.
>
> Otherwise, we are no better than Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia.
Amazingly, I actually agree with something Aaron said. It's scary how
close that thing comes to passing every time.
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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:23:24 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
>
> Johnson got us IN
> Nixon got us OUT.
>
> Spot the difference.
>
Actually, Eisenhower got us in, Kennedy got us in deeper, Johnson got us in
deeper, Nixon got us in even deeper, and we didn't get out until Ford.
Read some history.
Gary
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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:26:44 GMT
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> >
> > [1] AFDC comprised only 8% of the federal budget, IIRC.
>
Let's see. 8% of $1.7 trillion is $136 BILLION. Or $500 for every man,
woman, and child in the U.S.
Not to mention the billions being spent by the states, as well.
And the other welfare programs.
"Only" 8%, indeed.
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Regards,
Joe Ragosta
http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:20:58 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ZnU wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > david raoul derbes wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article <1efxfht.4xtbz1uyehb2N@[192.168.0.144]>, Andrew
> > > > > > > J. Brehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >Donavon Pfeiffer Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I don't know how inheritance tax is implemented in the US,
> > > > > > > >but to me it seems unlikely that a family farm would be
> > > > > > > >bothered with it. Where I live inheritance tax starts way
> > > > > > > >above the level where it could trouble farmers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are very much mistaken.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At the age of 68, my mother had to find 480,000 US to pay
> > > > > > > the government for her sister and brother in law's farm. To
> > > > > > > be fair to the government, she had ten years to pay it off.
> > > > > > > She managed, but it wasn't easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > She died about two months ago, and now my sister and I get
> > > > > > > to repeat the process.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And yet, I think that we need the inheritance tax. Those
> > > > > > > who think the inheritance tax is some sort of wicked thing
> > > > > > > should perhaps read Thomas Jefferson and James Madison on
> > > > > > > the subject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No. We need to eliminate the inheritance tax (PRECISELY for
> > > > > > the reasons described above), and replace it with a sales
> > > > > > tax.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, we need to have exceptions to the inheritance tax to allow
> > > > > family farms or family businesses up to a certain value to be
> > > > > passed along.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're so against handouts, why do you support the
> > > > > multimillion dollar handouts rich parents pass along to their
> > > > > children?
> > > >
> > > > Because it's THEIR money to do with as they please.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not against handouts, I'm against government pickpockets
> > > > using me as the financial basis for their handouts.
> > >
> > > Why does the child of a rich person deserve a handout more than the
> > > child of a poor person?
> >
> > Deserving has nothing to do with it
> >
> > It's the rich person's ***CHOICE**** to give their money away to
> > whomever they see fit.
> >
> > Your problem is....you innately ABHOR the idea of the people who earn
> > the money being allowed to CHOOSE what the fuck to do with it.
> >
> > Well.....YOU GO TO HELL!
>
> No. What I "innately ABHOR" is the idea that some people get tons of
> money without doing a thing to earn it while others work hard their
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> entire lives and stay poor.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Spot the lie.
>
> > > > Why is it that every time a liberal wants to do good, it always
> > > > depends on stealing money from me....
> > >
> > > Probably because you're more interested in your own luxury than in
> > > the well-being of the society you live in.
> >
> > Which is my right as an American citizen.
>
> The society you live it has decided that it isn't.
>
> [snip]
>
> --
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>
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I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
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A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:29:12 GMT
In article <39a8232e$4$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> A little history for you. The entire national debt from George Washington
> to
> Jimmy Carter was just over one billion. The rest came from the programs
> started, voted for and run by the republicans and few southern democrats
> that
> later changed to the republican party. -- Now you know who to place the
> blame
> on.
Even assuming that you're correct, it's interesting that in your
history, Carter and Clinton were Republicans or later changed to
Republicans.
And you also seem to forget that the Congress was controlled by the
Democrats for much of that period.
It's pretty clear that both parties played a big role in the deficit.
--
Regards,
Joe Ragosta
http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:23:26 -0400
Eric Bennett wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Eric Bennett wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
> > > > > > like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't understand the dynamics of multi-generational welfare
> > > > > families, do you
> > > >
> > > > In fact, I do. But this is neither here nor there. As a progressive
> > > > Libertarian, it truly pains me to see people like you associated with
> > > > Libertarianism. There's virtually no chance of making political
> > > > progress with publicate advocates like you, who don't blink at
> > > > loudly esposing they'd like to see children die, and not considering
> > > > for one moment the sensibilities of such statements vice the
> > > > sensitivities
> > > > of their audience.
> > >
> > > Allow me to predict his response: "This just shows that you're afraid
> > > to
> > > speak your convictions."
> >
> > Dear Asshole...
> >
> > Do I go around making up quotes and wrongfully attributing them to you?
> > A) Yes
> > B) NO
>
> No, and neither did I. I was simply predicting that you would use a
> line of reasoning you had already used in the past. In case you have
> forgotten:
You were attempting to attribute some reprehensible ideas to
me by pretending to make a "prediction"
>
> http://x51.deja.com/%5BST_rn=ps%5D/getdoc.xp?AN=662054960
>
> > Now, shut up until you can at least pretend to be honest.
>
> Show me any lies I've made in this thread. I'm waiting.
The quote that you attempted to attribute to me.
>
> --
> Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
> Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
>
> Anybody that wants the presidency so much that he'll spend two years organizing
> and campaigning for it is not to be trusted with the office. -David Broder
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:30:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Marion
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perry Pip wrote:
>
> > And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit? No way.
>
> As someone who started out in public schools, then switched to
> private school, I can say without a doubt that the education I got at
> the private school was _much_ better then I could've gotten in the
> public system. My parents sacrificed a lot for my sister and I (and
> we both let them know that we appreciate what they did) to go to
> private school. I have plenty of friends that went to public school
> that wish they could've also gone to private school and talk about
> how bad they were/are.
It depends where you live. In rich suburbs, the public schools are of
very high quality. They're properly funded. In inner cities, they're
woefully underfunded, and they're horrible.
> BTW, I think the proper system would be to give a tax credit for
> someone that sends their kids to private schools.. which wouldn't
> cost you anything in taxes.
The solution is to properly fund inner city schools, not drain even more
money away from them.
--
This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
occurred during shipment.
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
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