Linux-Advocacy Digest #527, Volume #29 Sun, 8 Oct 00 20:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Unix rules in Redmond ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: You Linux folks Just Don't Get It.... (sfcybear)
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: You Linux folks Just Don't Get It.... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Unix rules in Redmond ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Hotmail has been down for at least 12 hours on the East Coast (Gary Hallock)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix rules in Redmond
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:25:53 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Drestin Black wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Drestin Black wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what? WHAT?
> hahahahhahhhahahahahhhahahahaahhahhahhaahhhahahaahhaha
> > > > > > > <breath>
> > > > > > > hahahahhhahhahahahahahahaaahahahahahaaahahahhahahhaha
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No you know whe he's called Dresting LACK of facts...
> > > > >
> > > > > "No"? Perhaps you'd like to learn to spell/type before making
> shit up
> > > eh?
> > > >
> > > > Drestin Lack of facts.
> > > >
> > > > Happy now
> > >
> > > I'll be happy when you go away and stop using up bandwidth with that
> > > self-mocking .sig of yours (hasn't anyone told you how stupid it makes
> you
> > > look)?
> >
> > Annoys the fuck out of YOU...doesn't it.
>
> me? ha! no, I love showing your posts to people and when they ask "What kind
> of moron is this guy" I point to your .sig and say: the kind that uses his
> own self-mocking .sig!
And that's when they start laughing at you, isn't it....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You Linux folks Just Don't Get It....
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:23:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We don't want compilers.
You may not, but I do. Thus your agrument that "we do not want
compeditors" is false
> We don't need 200 different text editors.
No, but the editor you like may be different than the one I like. I
don't like the editors that come with W2k but I do like some of the
editors that come with linux. It's a matter of choice, if you don't
want choices, go with MS.
> We don't need all kinds of freeware libraries and fragmented programs
> that do specific functions, most of which are useless to all but other
> programmers..
> We don't need 90 percent of the software on Freshmeat.
> We don't want to return to the 1980's playing with config files.
You think the registry is better???? Ha. give me human readable files
any day!
>
> We have gone through Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files ad nauseam with
> Qemm and Qualatis, playing with Himem.sys to gain that extra 5k of
> free memory.
None of those on Linux
>
> This is 1980's stuff and it is gone, goodbye. We don't want to
> resurrect playing around with text files.
>
Try playing around with the registry! make one error and poof your whole
system may be Fubar!
> We don't want half assed implementations of Windows software either.
> If you choose to clone it but can't clone it completely, including all
> ease of use features, don't bother at all. it will only make you look
> silly. The current crop of mp3 players are a good example. Damm things
> can't even remember the song directory.
??? applications problems are not really linux issues.
>
> We are willing to pay for quality software that works out of the box.
> And Windows has plenty of it.
But were is any QUALITY windows software??? I have not seen much
>
> Example: Norton Internet Firewall, BlackIce, Zonealarm (free BTW).
> Compare this to trying to set up a firewall under Linux using
> IpChains, ipforwarding and such....What a waste of time, as well as a
> potential security risk for those setting it up that don't know what
> they are doing.
May tools are available to help set up fire walls in linux but I guess
you didn't bother looking on the shelf at Fry's or using search engine
>
> Sorry but my data is worth $30.00 or so, to have a professionally
My data is worth FAR more than 30.00. My business is dependant on that
data. that is why I use linux.
> designed program that works out of the box and is easily customized.
Windows software easily customizable??? Hardly. try to get the software
to do something the programer did not program in!
> Also I don't have to scour the net for config scripts that may
> actually compromise security. The products I use, and pay for, are
> used by corporations everywhere, and if a flaw should arise, and they
> do, a fix is released....
So is linux!
>
> Browsers?
>
> Netscape, says it all. Even Windows users think Netscape sucks.
Linx, great stuff!
>
> Email?
>
> Anything like Eudora yet?
> Sorry but I don't feel like configuring sendmail today, or any day for
> that matter.
Kmail works great for me. Even PGP!
>
> Linux still lags far, far, far, far, behind Windows and this is
> evident by the number of sales of Windows ME.... Why would people pay
???? So what. A lot of people hoping that the next release of MS
software won't be as bugie as the last? It's like hamsters on the
running wheel!
> for what really amounts to a minimal upgrade instead of getting Linux
> for free?
> They are not interested in Linux, that is why.
>
> Linux has had it's day in the press, let's do every desktop user a
> favor and put it out of it's misery once and for all :)
And it's still getting press. Linux is still stomping MS in the easy to
use embeded market
>
> I along with everybody else in the world would LOVE free applicaitons,
> but not at the price that running Linux involves.
>
Hey, Just because you don't have the mental capacity does not mean I
don't!
> claire
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:28:43 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rbsck$29bm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Mike Byrns <"mike.byrns"@technologist,.com>
> wrote:
> > > "." wrote:
> >
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > Anyone with any experience knows that you either have a
> hardware\driver
> > >> > problem, or you're lying. Why perpetrate such BS? Does this help your
> > >> > precious Linux? It only serves to denigrate the weight of any
> assertion you
> > >> > make, relegating you to irrelevant. Get a clue.
> > >>
> > >> 1. I'm not lying.
> >
> > > OK. You need a new video driver.
> >
> > Actually I did one better, I traded W2K for windowsME. That driver works.
>
> what you mean is you couldn't figure out a server OS like W2K so loaded up
Why should there be one OS for "servers" and another for "desktop" machines?
UNIX handles both roles quite well.
> the dumbed down newbie version and now the defaults worked on your card?
> Gawd! I used to think you had half a brain cell, but now I know that was an
> exageration.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: You Linux folks Just Don't Get It....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:31:53 GMT
On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:42:49 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>This is an obvious flame bait but I give it a shot.
Not flamebait at all, it is the truth, that is why I am repying to you
:)
>> We don't want compilers.
>I don't who the 'we' to which your are referring, but me and my friends
>want them.
You and your friends are programmers... 99 percent of the Windows
desktop users (your real market ) are not......
>> We don't need 200 different text editors.
>
>No one needs 200 different editors, of course not, but 200 different
>people may each want their own editor.
But they are there, counted as useful Linux applications....
>> We don't need all kinds of freeware libraries and fragmented programs
>> that do specific functions, most of which are useless to all but other
>> programmers..
>
>Here you are confused. Linux is not Windows, as such, program structure
>is different on Windows than on UNIX. In UNIX the strategy is to make
>small libraries and programs which do a specific job. Higher level
>programs use them as utilities.
Nope... If I go to win.com I find useful Windows applications. If I go
to freshmeat.net I find a collection of disjointed development
applications that, quite frankly, are a waste of time for an end user.
>> We don't need 90 percent of the software on Freshmeat.
>
>Then don't use it.
We can't..That is the point....
>> We don't want to return to the 1980's playing with config files.
>These '1980's' config files are no different, conceptually, than the
>bloated single point of failure registry in Windows.
>
>>
>> We have gone through Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files ad nauseam with
>> Qemm and Qualatis, playing with Himem.sys to gain that extra 5k of
>> free memory.
>
>Windows 98/SE/ME still use autoexec.bat and config.sys. Window NT and 2K
>still read environment settings from autoexec.bat, and maybe (I never
>tries it) from config.sys.
Boot the cd and it works. How it works I don't know, nor do I care. I
hae more important things to do, like applications.
>It makes no difference WHERE or HOW you store configuration variables as
>long as there is a way to modify them as necessary. There are plenty of
>GUI configuration utilities for Linux.
that's the problem... Why should I have to modify anything? And how,
exactly to I perform this modification? More FAQ reading? Sorry...It
just works under Windows...
>> This is 1980's stuff and it is gone, goodbye. We don't want to
>> resurrect playing around with text files.
>
>This is simply MS propaganda. What is the advantage of a binary registry
>database for configuration over text files? One can still put confusing
>entries in Windows' registry, just as one can in a text configuration
>file. At least in the text files one can integrate comments.
The advantage is I don't have to do a thing. I start my mp3 program
(MMjukebox) and it starts in my default directory.
>>
>> We don't want half assed implementations of Windows software either.
>
>Believe me, no one in their right mind would implement software on Linux
>as they would on Windows. Windows is just a poorly designed environment.
>NT would not be bad if it did not have to be saddled with the idiotic
>Win32 subsystem.
And Linux ports of such software sucks, despite it's on paper
technical advantages.
>> If you choose to clone it but can't clone it completely, including all
>> ease of use features, don't bother at all. it will only make you look
>> silly. The current crop of mp3 players are a good example. Damm things
>> can't even remember the song directory.
>
>I frequently laugh at these "ease of use" claims from Windows zealots. A
>Windows system administrator, very experienced in Windows, said to me
>Thurs. last week, "You know Windows, it is probably in their, but its
>remembering the arcane series of mouse clicks to get you to the right
>place that sucks." Where as in Linux, I did a grep for the name I was
>looking for and found the setting in the etc directory.
You spend your time greping I spnd my time running my applications.
>Windows is idiotware, it trades hierarchical (hieroglyphic) complexity
>for linguistic complexity. It is for people that can't (or don't) think
>past a 6th grade level.
Exactly... People who want to run applications, not play with an OS no
matter how high and mighty it makes them feel.
>> We are willing to pay for quality software that works out of the box.
>> And Windows has plenty of it.
>
>I would not use the word quality. I agree there is plenty of it,
>however.
You (the Linux world) have not even scratched the surface of the
number of Windows and Mac applications that run quite nicely right out
of the box.
Keep dreaming,,,
>> Example: Norton Internet Firewall, BlackIce, Zonealarm (free BTW).
>> Compare this to trying to set up a firewall under Linux using
>> IpChains, ipforwarding and such....What a waste of time, as well as a
>> potential security risk for those setting it up that don't know what
>> they are doing.
>
>Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
And stupidity will get you hacked, despite you wasting all day looking
for canned firewall scripts.
>>
>> Sorry but my data is worth $30.00 or so, to have a professionally
>> designed program that works out of the box and is easily customized.
>> Also I don't have to scour the net for config scripts that may
>> actually compromise security. The products I use, and pay for, are
>> used by corporations everywhere, and if a flaw should arise, and they
>> do, a fix is released....
>
>Yes, but you are in the position of trusting companies without the
>ability to audit security.
And you are in the position of trusting nothing...Open Source? So Who
IS accountable?
>> Browsers?
>>
>> Netscape, says it all. Even Windows users think Netscape sucks.
>
>Netscape really sucks, but if you want to see a sucky browser that
>frequently takes down the whole OS, just use IE.
Use it every day..You should try it some time instead of the crap you
are using...
>> Email?
>>
>> Anything like Eudora yet?
>
>Lots.
Yawwwnnn.....How many hours do I have to spend configuring this one?
>> Sorry but I don't feel like configuring sendmail today, or any day for
>> that matter.
>
>One does not need to configure sendmail to use e-mail. Sendmail is a
>replacement for something like "exchange server" only it is better and
>cheaper.
And full of security leaks...
>>
>> Linux still lags far, far, far, far, behind Windows and this is
>> evident by the number of sales of Windows ME.... Why would people pay
>> for what really amounts to a minimal upgrade instead of getting Linux
>> for free?
>
>I just read an article that said sails of MS-ME were dismal, and the
>sales that are being seen are OEMS that install it.
Doesn't seem to be altering the number of Linux installs...
>> They are not interested in Linux, that is why.
>
>The word is spreading.
Yep.. And most of it is negative...
>>
>> Linux has had it's day in the press, let's do every desktop user a
>> favor and put it out of it's misery once and for all :)
>
>There are a lot of people backing Linux and for good reason. It is
>better than Widows, more stable and faster. Cheaper than MS-ME and more
>powerful than 2K. The only thing in its way is a criminal monopolistic
>marketing department. And, of course, it is gaining marketshare.
Not on the desktop it isn't
>>
>> I along with everybody else in the world would LOVE free applicaitons,
>> but not at the price that running Linux involves.
>
>Running linux is not difficult at all. I don't know what your problem
>is.
Try applications that actually do something....
>> claire
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix rules in Redmond
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:29:53 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8rlb6h$ko2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Drestin Black wrote:
> >
> > >> > Come on Mike, you know one answer doesn't fit every question.
> Obviously
> > >> > there are situations where Gig adapters will excel but not in the
> > > scenario I
> > >> > was discussing/discribing (unless I misunderstood the situation). I'm
> > > using
> > >> > gig over copper quite happily at two installations - we find multiple
> > > NICs
> > >> > perform better when there are more users doing large amounts of
> > > relatively
> > >> > small requests. When the transfers are long/streams the bigger
> > > individual
> > >> > pipes are the way to go. Depends on usage, I know you know that.
> > >>
> > >> Only on sucky MS operating systems that have difficult with
> > >> context switches.
> >
> > > If I thought you even knew what you wrote means I would ask you to
> explain
> > > it but you don't and I won't.
> >
> > Aw. Dresden doesnt know what a context switch is.
> >
>
> Sigh... gee, why not say that I don't know how to write either while you are
> at it. Is that your childish game? Anything I say you'll simply write:
> "Dresden doesnt know ..." and of course offer NOTHING else and suck youself
> off in self-masterbatory congratulations for it?
>
> as I've used benchmarks that measure context switching latency I'm
> comfortable enough with the term to know what it means; suspend and save the
> hardware state of a running process (like registers, stack pointer, page
> table pointers and other things you've never heard of) and load another
> process's state - but I'm certain you'll disagree and it won't matter anyway
> so... just go get your dick pearced again and leave technical matters to
> grow ups
Now...next question...Why can't Micfosoft figure out how to do this
extremely simple task efficiently? It's only been a common computing
technique since the early 1960's.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:31:32 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Nathaniel Jay Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'll break my self-enforced silence this once.
> >
> > Dresden, you are exactly the type of person I was talking
> > about. You are the biggest RAH RAH Microsoft cheerleader
> > I have ever heard. You absolutely will never admit to
> > there being any fault with any MS product ever. You
> > accuse anyone that says anything positive about any
> > competing operating system as being full of shit, and you
> > basically demonstrate nothing but stupidity and an
> > absolute lack of perspective in any post you put out.
>
> And I can see that you only read what you want to and don't understand any
> point of view other than your own agenda. I am not MS's biggest fan and I
Prove it.
Write an honest critique of Microsoft's "operating systems"
> KNOW they have faults and have written about them and complained about them
When?
> as well as reported them etc... I think you are completely wrong in your
> assesment. BUT I will point on that this is an advocacy forum for
> windows-nt - look up the word. That's what I am doing, advocating it. What I
> DO do is identify errors and lies when someone makes them about NT. Why?
> Cause I feel like it. Why is it that ANYTHING that defends MS/NT must be BS
> because somewhere someone had a problem with it so obviously it must be
> broken? Lets not be hypocritical - whens the last time you heard a linux
> zealot admit problems in the kernel? Amazing how MS is criticized for
> putting ANYTHING in kernel space but when RH finds the only way it can beat
> IIS performance is to do the same thing with Tux - suddenly it's not only ok
> but the right way. That kinda of silliness is what drives me. My perspective
> I save for other forums where there is actually a balanced and technically
> sound presence - here, it's fighting the uninformed fudsters - sometimes you
> do have to jump up and down to get hear above the din.
Taking a lot of tap-dancing lessons, eh?
>
> >
> > Especially in your tirade in the thread about Nvidia
> > drivers. I know of a lot of people on both OSes that have
> > problem with the NVIDIA drivers, why are you the only
> > person that hasn't heard these complaints. I can't even
> > use the 'official' NVIDIA driver under Linux because it's
> > 'kernel-space enhancements' lock up X constantly (although
> > why it doesn't cause a kernel dump I don't know). I won't
> > lie and say I have any experience with NT or 9x with this
> > card, but people that have 'actual' experience say they
> > see some of the same sort of behavior under Windows. So
> > why are you so fucking ignorant of all the complaints?
> > It's even been reported in Maximum PC and some of what I'm
> > sure are your favorite magazines, the Ziff-Davis Microsoft
> > cheerleaders.
>
> No, see, you misunderstand and don't read carefully enough. I make no claim
> that the drivers are perfect nor that people have problems with them. I say
> that I've had great success and that the vast majority of sites I visit and
> reports I've read are positive. I've seen problems (and experienced some)
> but I find that the nvidia chipsets and driver are head and shoulders above
> the others I've used from ATI and Matrox. What I have been saying is that
> choosing between those 3, I would easily declare a victory for nvidia. AND
> there are FAR FAR FAR more sites reporting nvidia chipsets/drivers as THE
> video to use. Period. Sure, I can find complaints about anything... but I
> find fewer for nvidia. You'll have a hard time finding a site that declares
> an ATI or Matrox card as "superiour" to an nvidia card - except for the 3dfx
> guys (who are like linux guys in many ways). SOOOooo, all I've done is
> report that I have personally witnessed far greater satisfaction with one
> chipset/driver than others. Why is this so fucking hard to understand? I've
> read zillions of complaints about linux but I don't see any of them getting
> any weight when we're talking about linux vs windows -- why should I do the
> opposite? Besides, everyone knows it's easy to find someone posting a
> question about a problem with something rather than someone deciding to post
> to say: "Nothing exciting here guys, everything works like it's supposed to.
> No problems so I thought I'd just say: continuing to have no problems in
> case anyone was wondering." Duh! (then again, maybe linux is so bad that
> it's users do have to make such posts to assure others that in fact someone
> does get it working right... hmm?)
>
> >
> > Oh, and your little joke about MS W2K datacenter being a
> > 'heavy-iron' OS that is completely viable (and as far as I
> > know it isn't even available yet) is just icing on the
> > cake.
>
> well... I'll just reflect your comments below right back at yourself. Did
> you even take a second to check before spouting off? Datacenter is not only
> available it's already in use in product. Not beta, not RC - in use final
> code. And, actually, I do kinda consider DC as the icing on the Windows
> cake. As it's the sweetest version of Windows ever. And as I know you can't
> possibly have even seen, run or even been near a copy of DC - I find it
> funny that you can even assume to make ANY comments about it. That is quite
> an assumption. But as usual, you don't seem to need any facts before you go
> off on someone...
>
> > Fucking morons like you amaze me. How your brain
> > manages to keep enough cells alive to keep you breathing
> > is just amazing.
>
> Ahh.. the last refuge of the frustrated...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:42:34 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmail has been down for at least 12 hours on the East Coast
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What kind of crap is this?
>
> claire
What? You are calling W2K crap? Oh, that's right, I forgot.
You hate NT. I guess hotmail should have been ported to Windows
ME.
Gary
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