Linux-Advocacy Digest #315, Volume #31 Sun, 7 Jan 01 03:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Microsoft tentacles squirm deeper into software hosting (Tim Smith)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. (J Sloan)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: RPM Hell ("Tom Wilson")
Re: you dumb. and lazy. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: you dumb. and lazy. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: you dumb. and lazy. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Kyle Jacobs")
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 06:41:50 GMT
Your lucky. Although the original poster WAS looking for trouble in this
post, he didn't have to go too far to find it.
These ARE issues in Mandrake 7.2
They ARE problematic for some users (not all).
But they don't have to be there.
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I received my Mandrake update CD this week and decided to give
> > Mandrake 7.2 another whirl, partly because I am bored at the moment
> > and partly because I was hoping that this one was the big winner.
>
> Mandrake 7.2 was certainly a big winner for me.
>
> > Let's start with the Mandrake install process, which seems to have a
> > mind of it's own. Feed it an "expert" parameter, which is supposed to
> > prevent hardware detection, and it still tries to detect hardware.
> > It never prompts me to make a boot/rescue disk and insists on mis
> > configuring my Logitech wheel mouse.
>
> My Logitech Wheel mouse works fine.
>
> > In addition it thinks my Matrox
> > G200 card has 4 meg, unless I select the SD version and then it asks
> > me how much memory the card has, which is 8 meg.
> > God help you if you choose not to set up your internet connection when
> > you are prompted because ppp doesn't get installed (modem connection).
>
> Then install ppp afterwards? Even I managed to figure that one out!
>
> > Now we must change the default mouse to Microsoft intellimouse even
> > though it is a Logitech mouse. Warning, if you choose Logitech your
> > mouse will NEVER work in Linux again and there is no way out of it
> > unless you happen to be good at console commands and editing config
> > files. Also I had to change the refresh rate and other display
> > settings including fonts.
>
> Funny, my system is set to Logitech mouse and it works just fine.
>
> > Speaking of fonts, Mandrake includes a nifty tool to find all of your
> > Windows fonts and and make them available to Linux. It finds them all
> > right but they don't appear as selections in any programs including
> > DrakFont if you launch it a second time after adding them.
>
> Fonts worked for me.
>
> > On to Enlightenment which seems unable to even save the settings of an
> > Eterm. Change the font, save current settings close, relaunch and it
> > goes back to default every time. This is with root or user access and
> > does not matter.
>
> Try a different terminal then.
>
> > How about the Wheel mouse which sometimes works and other times
> > doesn't? Usually opening and closing Netscape or whatever the
> > offending application happens to be at the moment, makes it work again
> > until the next time it doesn't work again.
>
> Again, I don't see these problems.
>
> > Why can't XMMS remember it's settings like song directories?
>
> True.
>
> > How about no sound out of the digital port on the SBLive card?
>
> My sound still is supported.
>
> > Why doesn't Knode remember it's settings like Window size?
>
> It does if you tell it to. Settings -> Save Options seems to work.
>
> > Why does Mandrake insist on changing my mouse settings every time it
> > boots up? I had to turn off hardware detection for that one.
>
> Not noticed that one.
>
> > I screwed with Samba till I was sick of dancing and could not make it
> > work.
>
> I got my remote machine to work just fine. It does take a bit of editing
of
> the configuration file.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
>
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 06:48:27 GMT
And has the sum administrative capability of a "magic wand".
It's just another Linux program that goes to the stereotype that powerful
must come in a hideous package.
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937ifm$sch$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jure Sah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's say I'm a person who is looking for an OS that linux claims to
> be...
> "." wrote:
>> Yes, all scattered about in both /etc and the documentation. It takes
>> less than a minute to set it all up.
>> Not everyone is using the same hardware as you.
>> It depends on the program, but you can get them to be anywhere you like
>> if you read the documentation.
>> Apparantly youve never read the documentation.
>> Thats not an enlightenment thing. Read the documentation.
>> Read the documentation. To wit:
>> You can alias that if you want. Hell, you can make a cute button for
>> your desktop out of it too if you like. Read the documentation.
>> It does. Read the documentation.
>> Read the documentation.
>> Thats an enlightenment feature. Read the documentation.
>> Its in the documentation. Read it.
>> And besides that, theres an assload of wine documentation on the web.
>> Look it up.
>> You didnt read the documentation. Wine does not work with W2K binaries.
>> You arent running samba. Read the documentation.
>> Then you're an idiot. Its not that difficult, and you doubtlessly
>> didnt read the documentation.
>> I didnt. You did it wrong, and didnt read the documentation.
>> You simply do not, and do not WANT to understand linux. Either that
>> or you are retarded.
>> Eterm -bg black -fg white +sb -s 10000 -F sabvga &
> This linux thing seems like an operating system that is trying to oppose
> the user at any cost. Or maybe a non-functional DOS version -122.3, with
> a Bible of documentation that tries to teach the user how to communicate
> to the OS in machine language!
> Linux sux to me already, and I was only listening to a person who likes
> it!
> Say how do you connect to network from linux? Something like: "Jhwers
> -tr fj3h42 -ij fsd76234h +dc -u 748738967 -E fdgbazidurks Éôë¤" ?! Yuck!
> Even DOS command lines looked a lot better than that!
Or you can fire up linuxconf (that would be "linuxconf" from a command
line if you deleted its pretty icon from your desktop) and do it in
there.
Its even got buttons and tabs just like windows to make you nice and
comfy.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft tentacles squirm deeper into software hosting
Date: 6 Jan 2001 22:34:20 -0800
Reply-To: Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 06:59:35 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Actually, I saw it from a brief in a case that WON in Federal Court.
>
>http://www.supremelaw.com/
I was unable to find any winning briefs on that site. There was one
that was touted as being basically the best thing since sliced bread,
which had the same tired old arguments that have been losing in court
for 50 years, in an appeal over a loss in the district court. I was
unable to find out what happened with that, since the case does not show
up when I search for it.
--Tim Smith
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 06:51:35 GMT
Why do you Linux zealots insist making analogies toward motor vehicles.
I can honestly say in your car related comparison I HAVE NO F***ING IDEA
WHAT YOU SAID.
If I wanted to read about the latest in car's, I'd by a damn car magazine.
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937io4$sch$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>It depends on the program, but you can get them to be anywhere you like
> >>if you read the documentation.
>
> > Wrong....It doesn't work, and you know something I AM SICK AND FUCKING
> > TIRED OF READING SHIT JUST TO PERFORM SIMPLE TASK UNDER LINUX!!
>
> And now we can all see what your problem is. You know all about windows,
> and somehow you believe that this translates into "knowledge about
> computers".
>
> It doesnt. Knowing how to drive a '73 VW superbeetle does not mean you
> know how to drive a Mclaren F1.
>
> If you dont want to learn an operating system, dont use it. Case
> closed.
>
>
>
>
> -----.
>
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:19:09 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937jbj$4vu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> No, you havent, since the SB Live has not existed for "years". This
> is an outright lie. You are an outright liar, just like all of your
> previous incarnations on this group, and doubtlessly all of your future
> ones.
The SB Live chip has been out for nearly three years now. It has been
suceeded by similar named chipsets by Creative Labs, the names of which I
cannot remember.
> No, ext2fs is actually absolutely nothing like XFS or UFS. If you knew
> as much as the guy who used to write your posts for you about things
> like this, youd know that.
You attempt to sway the obvious issue by arguing idiotic symantics. Details
of which are not important as that ideas HAVE been properly communicated.
Ext2 is a POSIX compliant FS just like XFS and UFS. Just because it's not
BSD style doesn't mean it isn't similar.
> Word perfect for linux is actually not a wine port, since it predates wine
> by at least two years. Another lie.
Say WHAT? Virtualy ALL of Corel's Linux software is a dumbed down Win32
version of their software, an installer and WINE. I don't seem to remember
WP For Linux being an ELF app.
> Neat. Windows also has a 'kill' button on every window that doesnt
actually
> kill anything.
That little "x" only stops functioning under Windows 98 and NT 4. Both of
which have been succeeded by future revisions of Microsoft Windows. And I
can't even count to how many times the little 'close' button in "E" and
Sawmill haven't actually CLOSED anything. I kad to kill the app with GTOP
or killall.
> > Stop playing semantics.. I want to add a selection to a menu why do I
> > have to go 5 directories deep and edit some text file like i used to
> > do in the 1970's... Linux sux....
> This is not semantics, this is fact. You have your terminology all
> screwed up, and you do not know what youre talking about.
No, it really is petty symantics. But your going to ignore the basic idea
and continue calling him a "liar" aren't you...?
> Edit /etc/inetd.conf. Any retard can do it.
No, they can't. What's more, they don't HAVE TO anymore. There are more
human level interfaces to perform this task, under OTHER OS'S. Linux just
doesn't seem to want to get the concept of a human capible USER INTERFACE.
> But then again, youd know that if youd actually read any documentation.
Oh yes, because those drunken ravings called "howto's" are just so complete,
and comprehensive...
> You know, ive been looking in the mandrake group(S) for all of your
> claims, and they are simply not there. I suspect that you havent even
> installed the operating system, but have compiled all of your posts
> from complaints by other retards.
Fine, let's say that HE IS taking posts from other users. The problems
still exist. THESE ARE PROBLEMS WITH LINUX and just because one person
decides to bring them up, you call them a liar because they didn't have the
exact same experence you did with Linux.
> Theres more documentation on the web. If you cant get samba printing
> working, you are a complete idiot.
I think I've seen better "documentation" written on the back of a CS
student's hand. These people just can't write about their own damn
products.
> > Along with all of the others on the net that can't get it to work. How
> > come there are so many sites devoted to making it work? I don't see
> > sites like that for Windows......
>
> Really? Then you havent been looking.
He's refering to the sheer numbers of redundant complaints about the same
topics on NG's in reguard to SAMBA. Windows gives a USER INTERFACE to
configuring this, Linux gives a machine interface. Guess which one is more
logical under the user model. Hmm, possibly the one to provide a HUMAN
interface?
> > The net is full of outdated Lino-trash...How does one separate the
> > garbage from the treasure?
>
> With a brain. You are out of luck.
Really? Linux.com is exclaimed as an excelent site with Linux and open
source information, and I find propaganda and truely useless "testomonial"
excaliming the "prefection" of Linux. Only recently did I find something
even ADMITTING to the problems facing Linux on the desktop. So, I
reiterate, how does one filter the trash? Is there a special code filter we
should all know about?
> You apparantly did SOMETHING wrong, since you couldnt get it to work.
Ah, the old "YOU Did something wrong..." Ever get the feeling that there is
something wrong with the system? There IS a limit to the amount of "user
error" that can occour. Oh wait, "Linux is perfect", I forgot... Sorry,
I'M HUMAN.
> It does.
No, it doesn't. RPMDrake is riddeled with defects. STILL. Even after that
UI changeover (from the KPACKAGE Clone look) it sill doesn't function
properly tracking dependencies. Also Mandrake's revision numbering system
doesn't help RedHat native or RPM generic packages.
> I understand. You are a complete idiot, and you are beginning to suspect
> it. You feel cheated and awful because you dont have a brain, and you
> cant deal with the fact that a number of people around you understand
> things that you cant begin to comprehend.
And you simply can't deal with the fact that Linux is imperfect. Rather
than see where blame truly IS due, you use the user as a scapegoat,
insisting they are stupid, or incompetent, or unqualified. Or how about
just "unworthy" of your painfully idiotic "Linux bliss".
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:20:41 GMT
You've got issues Mr. Kulkis.
Get over them.
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 20:12:30 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >WordPerfect 7 & 8 are indeed native Linux programs.
> >
> > Point taken.
> > I was talking about the latest version, the Wordperfect 2000 edition.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> You misppelled "Post-Micro$haft-hostile-takeover edition"
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:24:32 GMT
I find your directed hatred toward an individuals religious choice to be
hideously ignorant, and inconsiderate.
Scientology may not be a respected religion, but people DO follow it. Their
choices are their own, and if they decide to follow the obligation to send
all personal earnings to "The Church", that is they're right (with the
exclusion of Germany as I recall, but that lay may have changed...)
Subsequently, making a comparison between stupid and grumpy people and
Scientology is also ignorant, and offensive.
SUMMARY: Stop sending personal attacks when you know you don't have a valid
point you jerk.
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937jef$4vu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The question is, how much did he pay for that phase. As most people
know,
> > scientology IS the biggest con-jobs next to Microsoft and e-commerce.
>
> I havent ever paid one living CENT to the church of scientology, and
> never will. :)
>
> I'll just betcha flatfish has though. Scientologists are notoriously
> stupid and grumpy.
>
>
>
>
> -----.
>
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:30:56 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> Say WHAT? Virtualy ALL of Corel's Linux software is a dumbed down Win32
> version of their software, an installer and WINE. I don't seem to remember
> WP For Linux being an ELF app.
Welp...
So much for Kyle Jacobs' opinion on anything....
> No, they can't. What's more, they don't HAVE TO anymore. There are more
> human level interfaces to perform this task, under OTHER OS'S. Linux just
> doesn't seem to want to get the concept of a human capible USER INTERFACE.
Sure it does, but will a wintroll like yourself ever admit it?
Nope, probably not
jjs
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:28:34 GMT
Microsoft Windows 98 (First Edition) and ACPI "restore status" is a known
issue with Windows 98 and ACPI systems.
Microsoft has NOT confirmed this to be a problem under Windows Millenium
Edition, or Windows 2000.
Windows 2000 has signifigantly more isolated ACPI code to prevent ACPI
"malfunctions" from causing boot level problems to your day-to-day routine.
You may wish to upgrade your OS to Microsoft Windows 2000. A costly
upgrade. Windows Me is cheaper, but the Win32 core may still retain the
ACPI bugs.
IBM May also have a more ACPI compliant BIOS available for your lappy.
Or, you can install Linux on this machine, and bypass your ACPI problems
alltogather. No ACPI support, No problem!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937qmm$64f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >On 6 Jan 2001 01:50:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
> >>Wow, windows doesnt even give you THAT option.
>
> >That's because you don't need it. But, if you insist you can still use
> >the boot disks later on to pretty much do what you wish.
>
> Ok, here is what I wish....
>
> I have an IBM PS/2 Model 85, with 128M of memory, a couple of SCSI disks,
> an ethernet card, and an SVGA card. Disk and graphics card are original
> IBM, ethernet is a 3COM, IIRC.
>
> It has Win98 installed. Now, I was already a bit disappointed by the lack
> of support for my hardware (come on, 640x480 in 16 colours? You gotta be
> kidding!), but hey, what do I care --- the machine is upstairs, and
doesn't
> usually have a monitor attached.
>
> However, each time the power goes out, the machine comes back up and
> just hangs. Nothing going, it just hangs on a text screen, when it should
> be loading Windows. Reboot, and the menu comes up. Select "Boot normally",
> and it hangs again. Reliably, reproducibly, as often as you want.
> However, select "Safe mode", and *WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ELSE* select
> "Shutdown->Reboot" once it finishes booting in safe mode, and all will
> work.
>
> What I really wish to do is to make it come up properly after a power
outage.
> Can't be that hard, can it? You don't get hardware more branded than this,
> and it's not like it's too new to be supported in Win98...
>
> What I also wish to do is to get rid of the login box. Yes, the machine
> is on a network, but that's the whole POINT --- if I first have to login
> on the actual machine, then what did I out a Web server on it for? I know
> this is possible, but it certainly isn't an easily-discovered option; I
> also recall Win98 making some silly comment about "if you don't type a
> password, you will not get the box" during installation, Yeah, right!
>
>
> The point? I am a Linux person, and thus my lone Windows box is giving
> me grief, and I don't know how to fix it. You are a Windows person. Why
> does it surprise you that you don't know how to fix the idiosyncracies
> of your Linux box?
>
> Bernie
>
> --
> I have been underestimated for decades. I have done very well that way
> Helmut Kohl
> German Chancellor since 1982
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:29:27 GMT
I should also point out, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:937qmm$64f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >On 6 Jan 2001 01:50:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
> >>Wow, windows doesnt even give you THAT option.
>
> >That's because you don't need it. But, if you insist you can still use
> >the boot disks later on to pretty much do what you wish.
>
> Ok, here is what I wish....
>
> I have an IBM PS/2 Model 85, with 128M of memory, a couple of SCSI disks,
> an ethernet card, and an SVGA card. Disk and graphics card are original
> IBM, ethernet is a 3COM, IIRC.
>
> It has Win98 installed. Now, I was already a bit disappointed by the lack
> of support for my hardware (come on, 640x480 in 16 colours? You gotta be
> kidding!), but hey, what do I care --- the machine is upstairs, and
doesn't
> usually have a monitor attached.
>
> However, each time the power goes out, the machine comes back up and
> just hangs. Nothing going, it just hangs on a text screen, when it should
> be loading Windows. Reboot, and the menu comes up. Select "Boot normally",
> and it hangs again. Reliably, reproducibly, as often as you want.
> However, select "Safe mode", and *WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING ELSE* select
> "Shutdown->Reboot" once it finishes booting in safe mode, and all will
> work.
>
> What I really wish to do is to make it come up properly after a power
outage.
> Can't be that hard, can it? You don't get hardware more branded than this,
> and it's not like it's too new to be supported in Win98...
>
> What I also wish to do is to get rid of the login box. Yes, the machine
> is on a network, but that's the whole POINT --- if I first have to login
> on the actual machine, then what did I out a Web server on it for? I know
> this is possible, but it certainly isn't an easily-discovered option; I
> also recall Win98 making some silly comment about "if you don't type a
> password, you will not get the box" during installation, Yeah, right!
>
>
> The point? I am a Linux person, and thus my lone Windows box is giving
> me grief, and I don't know how to fix it. You are a Windows person. Why
> does it surprise you that you don't know how to fix the idiosyncracies
> of your Linux box?
>
> Bernie
>
> --
> I have been underestimated for decades. I have done very well that way
> Helmut Kohl
> German Chancellor since 1982
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:31:42 GMT
I first experienced auto-dial under Debian Linux.
Slackware had NOT instituted this feature in the de-facto version of PPP as
far as I am aware.
The time frame for this comment is 1996.
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > And Linux has only recently been able to automate the connection
> > process so the user doesn't have to screw with ppp-options files, chat
> > scripts and so for. MS was a little slow out of the gate, but
>
> flathead, you should at least TRY to get your facts right. My Linux -
> machine which connects the complete network to the internet did this
> several years ago without any intervention from a user. And far easier to
> setup compared to a windows-machine (with firewall etc).
> Just try to look to have an IQ above 60
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM Hell
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:36:25 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On 6 Jan 2001 17:18:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
>
> I'm not going anywhere idiot.
>
> He, how about I send you the Mandrake Update CD so you can screw up
> your system as well?
>
> Doesn't take much.
>
> Slap in CD->select LiveUpdate from DrakConf and wait about 5 minutes
> or so.
>
> On the next reboot, instant vegetable. Much like your brain....
With all due respect, I think the vegetable matter, in your case, is sitting
at the keyboard.
>
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
That question has been answered ad-infinitum.
--
Tom Wilson
Sunbelt Software Solutions
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: you dumb. and lazy.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:33:00 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> This entire post is a lie.
Can you possibly bring some legitimate commentary to your claim that the
post is a lie?
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: you dumb. and lazy.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:34:17 GMT
Lucky fucking bastard.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:47:00 GMT, * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >haha. you sure showed them. yuppies think too much!
> >
> >of course. then. they do go on to hamptons. to beautiful houses. and
> >celebrities like you say.
>
>
> I live in the Hampton's.
> Duhhhhhh.
>
> And as a locals who live here year round, we can't stand the likes of
> Speilberg, Puffy Combs and their hanger-on's and such.
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: you dumb. and lazy.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:35:54 GMT
Good question.
What WAS Suffolk County before "The Hamptons"
As I recall, all potato farm, and "upstate" quality hicks*.
* - I AM one of those upstate hicks. I would know.
"*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 17:47:00 GMT, * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >haha. you sure showed them. yuppies think too much!
> > >
> > >of course. then. they do go on to hamptons. to beautiful houses. and
> > >celebrities like you say.
> >
> > I live in the Hampton's.
> > Duhhhhhh.
>
> i'm stupid because i don't know where you live?
>
> hm.
>
> > And as a locals who live here year round,
>
> interesting. so you really are more than one person..
>
> > we can't stand the likes of
> > Speilberg, Puffy Combs and their hanger-on's and such.
>
> right. if all the cultured folk would just leave, yousall could get back
> to raping sheep or whatever the hell the white trash there did before
> the movers and shakers came in and bought the place..
>
> you make me sick.. :)
>
> y'r pal -kK
>
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 07:38:42 GMT
I "killfile" no one.
"MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9377kt$16b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> > You have to understand that "UNIX Engineers" like Mr. Kulkis would be
out
> of
> > a job if people believed that Windows 2000 was an improvement over
Windows
> > NT 4.
>
> Wow. You mean you haven't banished that bozo to the bit-bucket yet?
> Took me all of a week to kill that noise once and for all.
>
>
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