Linux-Advocacy Digest #316, Volume #32 Mon, 19 Feb 01 12:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Which Linux? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (John Jensen)
Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory) (Bloody Viking)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Check out this Windows bug ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory) (Bloody Viking)
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux (Bloody Viking)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Nick Condon)
Re: Interesting article (T. Max Devlin)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Markus Friedl)
Re: SSH1 (Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ])
(Markus Friedl)
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory) (Mike Martinet)
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:16:03 -0100
In article <96qtde$7pm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marada C.
> Shradrakaii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You might try Slackware or a distribution-on-a-floppy. Try to avoid
>> the most recent ones.
>>
>> 5M is very little memory for Linux, especially with X. You'll be
>> happier with
>> 8 or 16. I tried recently Slackware 4.0 (kernel 2.2.5?) on a 386/40
>> with 8Mb. X was slow.
>>
>> Try for something based on kernel 2.0.x.
>>
>> Alternative: If all you want is command-line UNIX tool
>> familiarization, consider Minix. Runs off a floppy, installs in <30Mb
>> complete.
>
> Monkey Linux fits on 5 floppies, is designed to work with a 386/4MB has
> X, netscape needs 20M ho HDD space and 10M swap.
>
I'm interested to learn a few more things about this Monkey Linux:
What kernel is it based on?
The info says it runs on a UMSDOS "partition". Not knowing much about this:
if your DOS runs from a PCMCIA flash card, will Monkey Linux
automatically recognise it, or do I need to find drivers for the card?
The reason I'm asking is this: I happen to own an old Omnibook 425, which
regular linux will not install on. This Monkey business seems to be the
ticket, I hope.
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:18:39 GMT
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Or unless the author of the code you used placed it in the public domain
: or under a license that's _really_ free, like BSD.
I guess we're way past the "un-American" phase of the discussion.
Anyway, I think you need to step back. Neither license is without
restrictions. Even in binary form BSD places restrictions:
Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.html
When you call those restrictions "_really_ free" you are making a value
judgement. You may find freedom within the BSD license, just as other
people may find freedom in the GPL.
As it happens, I've used more or less the BSD license on my own projects.
Starting from a blank page I might choose that again. The BSD license
might match my goals, but the GPL wouldn't stop me from contributing to an
existing project I find useful. Just because I spend a few hours on GPL
code, or a few hundred, it doesn't make me GPL for life. It's just the
way I spent a little time.
John
--
33° 39' 43N 117° 45' 08W
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.windows.advocacy,comp.os.windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:22:23 GMT
Mike Martinet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: If you're *really* not a 'techie' (and I haven't decided yet whether to
: believe you on that) you certainly have the instincts. Next you'll be
: telling us how you made a motion-detector out of the hotel room tv
: remote control.
: (BTW, they're 'alligator clips' when you're not using them to smoke pot)
Indeed, I'm not a techie by trade. A major problem I have in terms of the job
market is a heavy-duty shyness problem, which makes it impossible to "sell
myself" in a job interview. My techie-like behaviour (as seen in the original
piece) is entirely for my own use.
It's pretty common for me to amaze people in real life, just as you were
rather amazed at the notion of a computer assembled on-site which I theorised
on. As far as remote controls, I once built a remote control jammer to go with
a universal remote set for the TVs at work. The same technology could be used
for a police LIDAR jammer for use aboard a stealth car, which, by the way, I
know how to build. I found out about Stealth Plane Paint from a Popular
Science article about "stealth" bridges painted with stealth paint to prevent
erroneous double-zero reading on pig radar. I instantly thought of the stealth
car - a decade and a half before the stealth plane was revealed. If you ever
see a flat black Caprice with funny gratings, chances are that I finally built
my stealthmobile.
It's quite a shame that I have the shyness problem. I could be working at the
Skunk Works on the next version of a stealth bomber. Can you say "Area 51"?
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:24:30 GMT
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> I'd be curious regarding the details. A Google search for "Internet Explorer
> HTML misrendering" returned 4 pages, 3 of which blast *Netscape* for
> misrendering (and one of those on SlashDot).
>
> The fourth page is a general diatribe against Microsoft/Win2k.
>
> Is there a URL you have handy to show examples of misrendered HTML?
>
>>> Opera is good but flawed, Lynx is outdated. I've heard Konqueror is good
>>> but I really dislike KDE.
>>
>> Different tools for different jobs.
>>
>> IE is the worst of all possible choices due to vendor lock-in to
>> the most Customer-Abusive of all the vendors out there...
>
> Plus the fact that it doesn't run under Linux natively. I'm not
> sure if it runs under Wine yet (http://www.winehq.com).
>
Netscape is the more accurate renderer. But Microsoft's IE
is so pervasive that it seems the norm to those ignorant of HTML.
As an example, up the font size one step in an HTML doc, and do
it a number of times, examining the rendering each time.
In Netscape, the text gradually increases in size. In IE,
it jumps to a huge size, and then stays the same for a few
steps. Very annoying when trying to get a banner to work well
in both browsers.
Note, too, that Netscape runs under many operating systems.
Apart from Wine, the only hope for Microsoft to have an
OS-independent browser is to go to open-source or free software.
We'll see in the next few months or years just how "crummy" they
really think Linux is.
Chris
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Check out this Windows bug
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:27:41 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>> >> > In other words: this is lame, sorry. Kind of like a
>> >> > reverse-win-advocate complaining about some archaic Unix problem.
>> >> > Nice try though - the thought was in the right place.
>>
>> Well this looks like you are, but as you say you're not, then I'll
>> assume it was a misunderstanding.
>
> Maybe I should have made myself clearer - if there is any
> misunderstanding as to this then I appologise.
I'll apologise for being rude.
> Back on topic wrt the bugfix report: I have a keen interest in looking
> at the mkb. It is amazing that they call it a "knowledge base" and not
> a
It's liek the dialog boxes you get:
Windows has found new hardware (look how good windows is!)
The file could not be found (it's now Windows' fault)
> bugtrack! Anyway, the reports are quite normally of the form:
> 1) CD READING PROBLEMS
> synopsis: when accessing cd's, the media is reported as failing to be
> read properly affects: all windows platforms solution: insert the cd
> properly prior to reading the content of the CD. it's like the microsoft
> press book "Building Solid Code" - it's a laugh! Tips: ensure that the
I've never seen this book. Any good quotes?
> media facing the correct direction. If in doubt consult your cd-rom's
> user manual.
Make sure you have a cd-rom drive.
> Still, even after reading the report - it just seems to be the old win16
> incompatibility layer biting their bums. no new news here me thinks.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:29:25 -0100
In article <96raum$k56$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ziya Oz"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Nigel wrote:
>> >
>> >> GPL'ing your code stops others from claiming rights to it - would
>> >> you want someone to claim the rights to something you have given
>> >> away
>> >
>> > The operative phrase here: "given away."
>> >
>> It was you who introduced the phrase. The GPL does not prohibit anyone
>> from asking a price for their work.
>>
>> >> and try to stop you using it?
>> >
>> > How?
>> >
>> By gobbling up the code you wrote, incorporating it into their work and
>> slapping a proprietary license onto it. The GPL does not allow this.
>
> But they can do nothing to stop you from using you *own* code. There
> isn't no way in hell that a company can take some code that I wrote,
> incorporate it into their products, and then try to sue *me* to stop
> using the code *I* wrote as long as: A> I didn't gave them exclusive
> license for the code. B> I don't work for the company (essesintly this
> is A)
>
>
So GPL your code already.
This is quickly getting boring. I suggest you either
- read up on the GPL license
- shut up.
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
==============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.windows.advocacy,comp.os.windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:30:43 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Those are alligator clips...
: unless you've been doing a lot of weed....
I don't do weed anymore, so the term is a legacy term. (: I smoke conventional
cigars now, and use an afro pick for the "roach clip", also a legacy item as I
used to occasionally get afro perms. (I actually even duplicated John Howard
Griffin when I reverse engineered Black Like Me. I now work at a black
majority workplace.)
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:31:47 GMT
In article <96ra3q$ik4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Rosten wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Karel
>Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Re-installing linux? Why would anybody want to do that?
>
>Dead hard disk?
>
>-ed
>
Here are some classic reasons I've had to re-install Debian.
#1. OG&E and a 100,000,000 volt lightning bolt.
#2. Dead Hard Disk.
#3. Dead Hard Disk Controller/ Mother Board.
#4. Iced Tea/ Coffee/ Dog pee.
#5. Daughters playing socker in house. Also closely related to #2.
That's 5 verified reasons you need both a Backup and a CD image.
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:36:19 +0000
>> Drop shadow mouse cursors!
>>
>> Fading menus!
>
> Ohhhh, actually I have one:
>
> Menu items that don't show up: in MS-office 2000 if you click on the
> menu's - you (wait for it) don't see all the menu items! Yes - it is
> true - you have to physically move your mouse cursor down the menu -
> indicating that you'd like to "reveal" all the menu options.
>
> Obviously the programmers knew it was brain-dead as they have added the
> option to disable this default annoyance.
>
> Now if that is not an innovation - what is?
I'll agree, that is definitely new. But as innovations go, it's pretty
poor.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:39:00 GMT
Martin Eden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I need an ethernet card for my new system. I'll dual boot Linux and FreeBSD.
: Any advice on which one to get?
I have always used NE2000 type "cheapernet" cards. Works on Linux just fine,
but don't know about *BSD. A whole bunch of cards work on Linux, so if you
want to do up a hub style LAN, you can. You can set up your own little
"internet" if you want with quite a few cards as your standard.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:37:11 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ZnU) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott
>TOK) wrote:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Ziya Oz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >John Jensen wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's fair that some people sell things, and some people give things
>> >> away.
>> >
>> >Well, according to the Open Source zealots, it's not enough to just
>> >give your stuff away, you have to GPL it!
>>
>> Only if you use someone else's work in the process. Then it is not
>> completely yours anyway, and it is up to the owner/creator of the work
>> you have used what sort of license it will have. It may require a NDA
>> and a lot of money, or it may require the GPL. But you have to live
>> with that unless you've created everything _ex nihilo_.
>
>Or unless the author of the code you used placed it in the public domain
>or under a license that's _really_ free, like BSD.
>
BSD's license is open to that kind of abuse. Experience suggests that it
promotes forking, a la Free/Net/OpenBSD. The late 80s Unix fragmentation
happened because of similar licensing problems; it wouldn't have happened
had the original Unix been GPLed.
--
Nick
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:42:01 GMT
Said Jim Richardson in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 18 Feb 2001
>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:22:51 GMT,
> T. Max Devlin, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
>>Said Jerry McBride in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:11:04
>> [...]
>>>> IBM got lots right with OS/2, their marketing sucked big time.
>>>
>>>That, I totally agree with. If IBM had BIGGER BALLS and pushed a lot harder
>>>when MicroSoft started their BS, I think all this crap with the DOJ and MS
>>>would never have been an issue. IBM missed this target, BIG TIME. But then
>>>again maybe Linux wouldn't be the same as it is now.
>>
>>This is where I jump in and point out that no amount of competitive
>>action will counter anti-competitive actions. If the would-be
>>monopolist has enough market power to wield monopoly power, they win; no
>>amount of marketing or technical development will counter this.
>
>Don't be silly, of course it will, not in every case, in every situation, but
>in many.
In every case, unless they don't have enough market power to attain
monopoly power, and then it never will. Anti-competitive actions
("monopolizing") have this odd counter-market (get it;
'anti-competitive'/'counter-market') effect. If you have "monopoly
power", an anti-competitive action provides monopoly profits and
exclusion of competition. If you don't have "monopoly power", an
anti-competitive action will cost you profits and customers.
Its a bit of a epistemological game, you see, because the relationships
of these things is what defines them; to say that a company has
"monopoly power" is to say they would win, in all cases.
>Competition is the death of monopolies, most of them have to resort to
>govt fiat to continue to exist (amtrak, post office, etc)
This silliness about "resorting to gov't fiat" (which treats the entire
subject of anti-trust backwards) aside, competition itself doesn't allow
monopolies to form at all, no. But that does little to stop illegal
behavior, which provided "market power" in excess of what the actual
market provides. Cash in the bank used to finance dumping, for
instance, or when businesses collude rather than compete.
The market can only go so far to prevent monopolies; if it were only
putative "singularities" with purely competitive power, then no
monopolies would form. For the slow thinkers in the crowd, I suppose
its helpful to continue by saying "and if they do, they will be overcome
by competition", but that really does miss the point.
Because the point is that monopolies never form naturally at all.
Neither amtrak nor the post office are commercial businesses "resorting"
to anything; they are public utilities which the government unilaterally
determined are beneficial to the public good and therefore they are run
as regulated corporations. Note that there's nothing about being a
corporation that prevents a business from acting in the public good;
particularly when its in their charter.
>Which makes M$'s
>mutterings about how linux and opensource is somehow "una-american" unnerving.
Worse, it is criminal. I wouldn't even trust myself to be sure of which
laws it transgresses; still, it is my belief that to act dishonestly for
material gain is, in all cases, illegal, somehow or another.
Still, I've said in the past that the GPL is anti-competitive. I'm not
entirely sure how metaphorical that is. I say it is anti-competitive
because, like attempts to monopolize, there is literally no way to
compete against it. You can't make money being competitive against an
anti-competitive company, and you can't come out ahead trying to compete
against someone else's software when there's is open source and your's
isn't. Sooner or later, they get an edge, and you can't possibly keep
up without either going open source or breaking the law (by using GPL
code without acknowledgment, and subsequent GPLing of your code). The
only question is whether they can make more money selling services than
you can selling licenses, and, frankly, there's is a more efficient
business model.
>It sounds like they are gearing up to try and push laws to ban or otherwise
>cripple open source developement. (See the flap over the CPRM ATA copy
>protection, and the DMCA.)
They merely seek to undermine what will most probably happen anyway; the
entire industry will start embracing open source enthusiastically, and
never look back.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Friedl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:41:12 GMT
In <4B9k6.55426$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >Wasn't a huge exploit found in SSH just a few weeks ago?
>>
>> it's an implementation bug.
>>
>> not related to "shoddy encryption"
>But, what about all the other attacks? Several of them were man-in-the-middle
>due to improper key exchange.
it was MITM due to users ignoring warning messages. it's
a user error not a protocol error.
>Another was one in which you could tamper with
>one of the machines to produce excessive amounts of encrypted packets from
>which you potentially derrive the session key.
this attack does not work against OpenSSH with MaxStartups
and if sshd is started from inetd.
this attack does not work against SSH protocol 2.
>All the exploits listed were just from THIS MONTH alone! I didn't even
>take the time to go back into last year where I'm sure there are several
>more exploits!
you are confused. you are talking about vulnerabilities -- not about
attackes. please do you homework and study the facts.
>Which, according to several sources is extremely unsecure and flawed.
>This is even according to the ssh.com people themselves.
please show your sources and, for example, show how they apply to
OpenSSH-2.5.1?
-markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Friedl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH1 (Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ])
Date: 19 Feb 2001 16:43:55 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Janne Sinkkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva) writes:
>> They've been spreading FUD about SSH1 for years. They had a commercial
>> interest in getting people to upgrade to SSH2. You can join the dots
>> yourself.
>BTW, is there any known incidents of compromized SSH1 connections, or
>is the vulnerability of the protocol just theoretical so far?
what is 'the vulnerability'?
-m
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:46:09 +0000
>> and have little or no IT knowledge beyond what Microsoft told them.
>
> No.
>
> I've probably used more computers (way back in the TRS-80, TI 99-4a,
> Commodore Vic-20,64, Amiga, Atari 800/ST days) than most here. I've
> programmed almost every language there is (my favorites are assembler
That shows that you are either a genius of not as smart as you make out.
There are a quite frankly huge number of languages. Out of curiosity,
what is your favourite functional language (I'm just getting in to
Haskell)?
Ans which do you prefer, forth or postscript?
> and C), I've even programmed a device driver (for OS/2) and created my
> own sound card.
Fair enough.
> Also, I've used HP-UX extensively. The fact that I like Windows 2000 is
> because it is a great OS whether or not Linux advocates believe it is or
> not.
> Please don't generalize about Windows users, it makes you look foolish.
Before you say this, take a long look at the majority of WinTrolls on
this ng.
>> I would regret missing a single post by the lovable Flatfish++++ or a
>> well rehearsed sock puppet response from Chad. Poor Destin Black has
>> realized the futility of his position so he only posts in c.o.m.n.a. (I
>> have seen him post there recently). I miss his Microsoft info-mercial
>> URLs which he used to support his pro-Microsoft position. I want to
>> see some more spin on Allchin whining to the US government about open
>> source. Come on you Windows advocates, make this look good for
>> Microsoft.
>
> Microsoft makes good products. Windows 2000, Allegiance, Age of Empires
Win2K being good is debatable. The 160 day uptime is nothing to shout
about and I personally find the GUI and CLI clunky and inelegant. But
those are just opinons.
As for age of empires, there is only one true RTS, and it has tanks :)
> have all received excellent award by various magazines... Allegiance
> rocks too...
I never pay too much attention to magazines alone. They all have strong
biases.
>> Flatfish++++'s contributions are very important for Linux to take on
>> the desktop environment. Flatfish++++ does a lot of work to botch up an
>> easy install.
>
> RedHat 7.0 doesn't install nearly as easily as Windows 2000... I am
> still trying to get my ethernet card to work, and my soundblaster live
> was not even detected. (Still haven't got that running either).
So I can tell you stories about flawless RH installs (ie every one I've
done) and Windows installs that haven't worked properly.
>> Since I have a regular 40 hour work week (web application developer
>> gratefully using Perl and C on a Solaris platform, proudly
>> rehabilitated from the Windos world), I only have time to regularly
>> read one newsgroup, I do other things besides play with computers. I
>> choose this newsgroup to read and I want to see everyone's
>> contributions. So I have no kill file entries.
>
> You would if Tholen was in this group... don't ask... :)
He does come to this group once in a while from a cross post. I like
`debating' with him to see how long I can keep it up. This time, I out
tholed him.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Mike Martinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Portable Computering On The Cheap. (theory)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:52:03 -0700
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Indeed, I'm not a techie by trade. A major problem I have in terms of the job
> market is a heavy-duty shyness problem, which makes it impossible to "sell
> myself" in a job interview. My techie-like behaviour (as seen in the original
> piece) is entirely for my own use.
>
> It's pretty common for me to amaze people in real life, just as you were
> rather amazed at the notion of a computer assembled on-site which I theorised
> on. As far as remote controls, I once built a remote control jammer to go with
> a universal remote set for the TVs at work. The same technology could be used
> for a police LIDAR jammer for use aboard a stealth car, which, by the way, I
> know how to build. I found out about Stealth Plane Paint from a Popular
> Science article about "stealth" bridges painted with stealth paint to prevent
> erroneous double-zero reading on pig radar. I instantly thought of the stealth
> car - a decade and a half before the stealth plane was revealed. If you ever
> see a flat black Caprice with funny gratings, chances are that I finally built
> my stealthmobile.
>
> It's quite a shame that I have the shyness problem. I could be working at the
> Skunk Works on the next version of a stealth bomber. Can you say "Area 51"?
I was going to ask what country you were/are in. But if you're going to
be running a Caprice (Chevy ruined it in '99 in my opinion) then that
pretty much settles the location question. I would have assumed, going
by 'Bloody Viking' that you were in Norway or thereabouts.
Also, if you get around to making an obnoxious-stereo jammer, I'd love
to hear about it. I'd really enjoy being able to throw a switch and
stifle the speakers of the inconsiderate louts who think everyone in the
neighborhood wants to hear the proof of their ability to buy enough
components to over-amplify a bass frequency. I like loud music myself,
but I think it's extremely rude to inflict your taste on others.
Okay - back to Linux. Sorry for the interruption. Damn those Windows
users, etc.
MjM
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