Linux-Advocacy Digest #442, Volume #32 Sat, 24 Feb 01 05:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Richard Heathfield)
Re: Where is suse 7.1? (Tim Hanson)
Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one. (Tim Hanson)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux ("Mart
van de Wege")
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Into the abyss... (Matthew Gardiner)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:33:28 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> > The Home Guard was ill-armed because of the reactionary gun-control
> >> > laws pushed through by the British elite around 1920.
> >>
> >> That is BS. Even if people had personsal weapons, they would not have
> >> been much use against Panzers.
> >
> > Panzers go "blub blub blub" without a dock to land them on. Beachheads
> > are not docks.
>
> You can land tanks on beaches with the right landing craft.
>
>
>
> >> Secondly, there was no guns in England
> >> because there were not enough guns to go round the army. That's why the
> >
> > You make my point for me.
>
> No. Whether the UK had guns in the home or not, by 1941 they would all
> have been long gone. There was not enough metal to go roung for making
> weapons.
>
> >> guovernment confiscated every scrap of metal (iron fences, the lot) for
> >> use in weaponary. Any personal weapons would have been taken away and
> >> used.
> >
> > Conversely, in the United States, we were able to provide the British
> > with more service-quality rifles and shotguns from PRIVATELY DONATED
> > firearms than out of the combined stores of our armed services.
>
> See my above point. Don't forget that the US has a much bigger population
> and didn't have essential imports being cut off.
>
>
> >> > Gun control is ALWAYS about implementing feudalism.
> >>
> >> I disagree.
> >
> > Then you truly have no understanding of how the elitist power-brokers in
> > government view the average citizen like you and me.
> >
> > They want you to be a conformist little robot who offers ZERO resistance
> > to any of their decisions.
>
> Me having a gun would make no difference to a single decision the
> government has made in recent times. The only way it would have made a
> difference would be through armed uprising which is too extreme for
> anything that they've done recently.
>
> > You see...incidents like Dunblane are HYPED so as to brainwash you into
> > surrendering your BASIC HIMAN RIGHT to self defence.
>
> I didn't own a gun anyway. The new legislation stopped nutters getting
> guns. Almost noone in the UK (barring criminals) owned hand gund. The
> legislation won't affect criminals and it won't affect non gun owners, so
> it has affected almost noone. Besides, if you still are hell bent on
> protecting your home, then you can get a shot gun, since they are still
> allowed.
>
> >> > This is a bit out of date, of course. The events of Dunblane resulted
> >> > in further further hysterical legislation that was equally
> >> > misdirected....
> >>
> >> I disagree.
> >
> > Disagree all you want. You're still wrong.
>
> Well I think your wrong. Why don't you admit that I'm entitled to my own
> opinion?
>
>
>
> >> > and inneffective. If British readers of this don't get the point by
> >> > now, I hope that American readers will, at least.
> >>
> >> I get the point, I just disagree. One problem you have is an
> >> unwillingness to see why other people hold a different point of view.
> >
> > My point of view is based on a thorough study of history and the actions
> > of both common criminals, and those who infect government.
> >
> > Trusting EITHER type of criminal to treat you with courtesy is a foolish
> > thing to do....foolish enough that it may cost you your life.
>
> I don't trust either to treat me with courtesy. But I don't think guns are
> the solution.
>
>
> > Remember...in the period 1900-1999, the LEADING cause of violent death
> > among people has been attack by their own government.
> >
> > There is no escaping that fact.
> >
> > You say, Oh, someone like Hitler or Stalin could never come into power
> > here....and at the same time, set up all the same conditions which usher
> > such bloodthirsty tyrants into power.
>
> What help could a hand gun possibly be against government forces? An
> artillery gun could quite easily drop a high explosive shell on my house
> from 60 miles away. I wouldn't stand a chance, guns or no guns.
>
> If the government wanted to turn on us and guns were legal, it would cut
> off the supply first, as well. Any stocks of ammo wouldn't last very long.
> Again, having a gun wouldn't help much.
Yet, the French resistance, and the Russian and Yugoslav partisans were
able to fight the Germans successfully for YEARS despite a complete
ban on the sale of weapons and ammunition to civilians.
HOW?
Simple. They used their pre-existing (not-confiscated-by-their-government)
weapons to shoot German soldiers, and then capture the weapons and ammunition
from the dead.
>
> And the government forces have avaliable guns of far higher precision and
> power than I would be able to afford. I may as well just use a bow and
> arrows for all the help a hand gun would be against trained army forces
> with fantastically expensive weaponary. Again, me owning a gun would do
> very little against a dictator coming in to power.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:34:59 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Panzers go "blub blub blub" without a dock to land them on.
> : Beachheads are not docks.
>
> By that argument, the Normady landings never would have had any tanks
> in them, and they DID.
You must remember...we BROUGHT our own docks.
I believe the code-word for them was "rhubarbs". Huge pre-cast
hollowed-out concrete things. Used the air trapped inside for
bouyance.y
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:43:22 +0000
From: Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Mark Duell wrote:
>
> "Richard Heathfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > >
> > > I just tried a simple trig thing on my Linux box but the gcc compiler
> gave me
> > > some error, despite having math.h added as the libraries. More bizarre,
> my
> > > UNIX ISP had exactly the same problem with the same seemingly simple
> proggie.
> >
> > Your question is an FAQ - there's a good answer to be found if you look
> > for it. See my sig for the URL.
> >
[and that sig says...]
> > C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
>
> This link returns a 404 (and a custom one at that!)
Interesting. I just tried it, and it worked fine. Reload and
Shift-Reload both work fine too.
Are you sure you didn't just catch it at a busy time?
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place." - Dennis M Ritchie, 29 July 1999.
C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
K&R answers, C books, etc: http://users.powernet.co.uk/eton
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is suse 7.1?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:06:05 GMT
Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >> Suse 7.1 was to be released on feb 12. Still now the website
> >> says, it will be available from mid-february? When is it going
> >> to be released?
> >
> > Here in the UK, 7.1 was released on the 19th. I put my order in
> > and received an EMail to say there was a problem with a batch
> > of CD's and I could expect delivery within ten days.
> >
> Now Pete,
>
> Here's a few words of experience frome one who has done it:
> *don't* go and imediately start pushing SuSE to the max. Every
> distro has a different 'feel' to it, and if you go in just
> blindly assuming that it does things the same as Mandrake, you
> *are* going to have another spate of problems.
> Give yourself a change to get used to SuSE's idiosyncracies,
> explore all its possibilities, but give it time, say about a
> week (actually 2 weeks would be better). Then, when you start
> feeling familiar with it, do whatever you bloody well want and
> you'll find that you *can* get a good user experience out of a
> Linux distro.
> One other word of warning: watch out with installing, I believe
> SuSE comes with nearly 7000 packages!
>
> Mart
> --
> YahDu (Yet another happy Debian user)
One of the joys of SuSE is going into yast after an install / update and
picking through the new stuff, or things I'd like to try, or the things
I thought I was going to try but didn't have the time, and the rest.
I've been known to piddle away entire weekends installing a package,
shifting to another virtual to try it out, then going to the next
package. It really is delicious fun.
Noting your .sig, I just freed up a spare computer, hooked it up to the
LAN, and installed Debian via ftp (I love broadband :)). So far I've
got a command prompt and LILO. I'm determined to get this thing off the
ground. One of the helpfuls is that I have SuSE still running, so I can
read online documentation as I work with it.
--
An old Jewish man reads about Einstein's theory of relativity
in the newspaper and asks his scientist grandson to explain it to him.
"Well, zayda, it's sort of like this. Einstein says that if
you're having your teeth drilled without Novocain, a minute seems like
an hour. But if you're sitting with a beautiful woman on your lap, an
hour seems like a minute."
The old man considers this profound bit of thinking for a
moment and says, "And from this he makes a living?"
-- Arthur Naiman, "Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish"
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ooooopsss there goes another one.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:07:34 GMT
Flacco wrote:
>
> > Another fact is that the omni-present war cry of the LinZealots is the
> > mocking phrase "you will be assimilated" by Linux.
>
> To my knowledge, the cry is simply "We will not be assimilated."
The "war cry," tongue in cheek, appears to be "World Domination - ASAP!"
--
An old Jewish man reads about Einstein's theory of relativity
in the newspaper and asks his scientist grandson to explain it to him.
"Well, zayda, it's sort of like this. Einstein says that if
you're having your teeth drilled without Novocain, a minute seems like
an hour. But if you're sitting with a beautiful woman on your lap, an
hour seems like a minute."
The old man considers this profound bit of thinking for a
moment and says, "And from this he makes a living?"
-- Arthur Naiman, "Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish"
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:19:30 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> : If Germany had been in posession of proper landing craft in the spring
> :> : of 1941, Britain would have fallen, and the Normandy landings would
> :> : never have occurred.
> :>
> :> True, but the reason they *didn't* have proper landing craft was
> :> because of air-superiority. The Germans didn't have any good
> :> spot to build a flotilla along the channel that wasn't under the
> :> threat of air attack.
>
> : The main reason they didn't have an invasion flotilla is because
> : Hitler never wanted war with Britain in the first place. That's
> : why Hess flew to England.
>
> Really? So now you know that Hess was acting under orders from
> Hitler, instead of on his own as he claimed?
Hess was Hitler's 2nd in command. I think he recognized that
Hitler had bitten off more than he could chew by prosecuting a
war with England. It wasn't part of the plan....and, in fact,
seriously endangered the plan. In fact...if Britain had stayed
OUT of the war, then Hitler probably would have succeeded in
his plan of reincarnating the Roman Empire under German rule.
>
> : Hitler was incensed that Churchill
> : wouldn't stand aside and keep the British Army out of continental
> : Europe.
>
> : Had Hitler *planned* to go to war against England, you can be sure
> : that a proper invasion fleet consisting of proper landing craft
> : would have been manufactured in the late 1930's.
>
> You are implying that "planned" has to mean "Planned for a long
> time, way prior to the breakout". Hitler DID want to invade
> England after France fell, but Operation Sea Lion wasn't workable.
Op. Sea Lion was an unworkable plan, obviously thrown together
at the last minute.
The plan to use river barges for trans-channel movement of men
and materiel was grasping at straws...even if the RAF had been defeated.
The German General Staff was VERY professional. If Sea Lion had
been developed before the invasion of Poland, it would have been
MUCH better done....i.e. called for proper landing craft, rather
than relying upon *hope* and barges meant for riverine commerce.
> The main reason was the RAF and the RN. The British army sucked,
If the RAF had fallen (and they were within days of doing so if
Hitler had not switched to targeting London), the RN would have
been useless.
> but they had a first-rate air force and navy, and so the Germans
First-rate pilots don't mean a thing when all the aircraft
factories are bombed out. The day the Luftwaffe started bombing
London (in response to an RAF bomber jettisoning it's bombload
over Berlin), the RAF was down to a 4-hour supply of critical
repair and maintenance parts. Both the Spitfire and Hurricane
production centers had been under attack for several weeks.
> didn't have a hope of getting their large, powerful armies across
> the channel in one piece. Britain was saved by a geography that
> favored its strengths while making its weaknesses less relevant,
> not by NRA guns.
The assertion is NOT that NRA guns were needed...but that
misguided gun-control laws from the 1920's (for fear of the
lower classes overthrowing the government) had left the
country with a desperate shortage of small arms.
Had two things happened:
A) Hitler kept the Luftwaffe attacking the RAF's infrastructure
(fighter bases and factories), and
B) A Sea Lion-like plan been PROPERLY developed in the 1930's,
so that proper invasion equipment could be manufactured...
The world would be *very* different today.
Thankfully, neither A nor B happened, therefore C (German invasion
of Britain) never happened either.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:09:53 +0100
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donal K. Fellows"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Myers wrote:
>> Hmm... it seems you are incorrect. Sales of Windows continue
>> to increase. The hype revolving around Windows XP is high,
>> which means many people are interested. Hardly the signs of a
>> dying company.
>
> So what? The hype around the Millennium Dome was high too, and
> that's hardly the sort of business success you want to compare
> yourself to...
>
> Donal.
<trollbait>
I think Chad is missing the point once again. A hype is by
definition not a good thing; for one thing it is artificially
inflated interest in a product (inflated by marketing mostly).
So Chad just admitted that it takes the MS marketing machine to
drum up interest in XP
</trollbait>
Mart
--
YahDu (Yet another happy Debian user)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:21:11 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> : If Germany had been in posession of proper landing craft in the spring
> :> : of 1941, Britain would have fallen, and the Normandy landings would
> :> : never have occurred.
> :>
> :> True, but the reason they *didn't* have proper landing craft was
> :> because of air-superiority. The Germans didn't have any good
> :> spot to build a flotilla along the channel that wasn't under the
> :> threat of air attack.
> :>
> :> : The Home Guard was ill-armed because of the reactionary gun-control
> :> : laws pushed through by the British elite around 1920.
> :>
> :> The guns donated to the home guard came from army surplus storage.
> :> They were old rifles that had been packed in grease all those
> :> years. I don't know where you are getting this story from of
> :> personal guns being given.
>
> : I first became aware of it when I saw circa 1940 posters pleading
> : for American citizens to donate their firearms to the defence of the
> : beleaguared British Isles.
>
> This does nothing to back up the notion that this made any whit
> of difference.
I'm not saying it did make a difference. What I'm saying is that
due to foolish gun-controls passed in the 1920's, because the
upper classes were afraid that the lower classes would revolt,
Britain was DESPERATELY short of small arms in the event of an
actual German invasion.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Into the abyss...
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:23:22 +1300
You can download it now if you wish. It consists of three ISO images,
throw them on a CD-ROM. Unfortunately, they don't have the latest
version for download (Solaris 8 01/01) available for download, however,
10/00 w/ the latest patches (12MB) is really stable, I had this puppy up
and running for well over a week with out a crash (prior to the "week" I
was running, shudder, shudder, Windows 2000 Pro).
Matthew Gardiner
Masha Ku'Inanna wrote:
>> Have you tried Solaris 8. The installation routine etc. is so easy,
>> throw in the boot CD, partition, install, boot, very easy and simple,
>> and all done through the comfort of a GUI.
>>
>> IMHO, CDE is awsome, I have GNOME loaded on here, and it is like
>> golden-syrup flowing down a hill, aka VERY-SLOW. There is also quite a
>> good support setup through www.sun.com/bigadmin that addresses alot of
>> the issues a newbie, or solaris-guru may face.
>>
>> Interms of setting up, as long as you RTFM (Read The Fucking Manual),
>> and do EXACTLY was is written, they you computer will humm along with
>> out a problem.
>>
>> Matthew Gardiner
>
>
> Actually, not yet. I'd like to, but last I knew they had a free download
> available after the purchase of a $80 media-kit...
>
>
>
>
>
--
Í?f
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