Linux-Advocacy Digest #538, Volume #32           Tue, 27 Feb 01 19:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: State of linux distros (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Mircosoft Tax (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: What the hell is MS thinking? (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Richard Heathfield)
  Re: Kulkis: please trim the sig (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: My long signature (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: My long signature (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Is this odd security behaviour by MS? (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: State of linux distros ("Reefer")
  Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Chad Myers")
  Breaking up is so very hard to do... (Pete Goodwin)

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:27:44 -0500



Reefer wrote:
> 
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i
> meddelandet news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> >
> > Mind you, that's not saying a whole lot; Linux started off with that
> > capability back in '94 -- and I'm not sure Windows NT even existed back
> > then.  (If it did, it hadn't been around that long.)
> >
> 
> First version of NT; Windows NT version 3.1, was released on July 17, 1993,
> and is to date one of the best OS that MS has ever made -stable as a rock,
> never got that one to crash....will be interesting to se if Win2k can take

Translation:

Reefer was hitting the bong so often he never noticed that BSOD's.


> over that torch.....

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:30:50 -0500



Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> >> No, it's completely different. Read the other argument. The other
> >> argument said (essentially) that "DOS pipes can't do everything that
> >> UNIX pipes can do, therefore they are not pipes". This argument is
> >> obviously inadequate (unless you use "UNIX pipe" as a definition of
> >> pipe, which sort of defines the argument into triviality)
> >
> > Wrong.  Any multi-tasking operating system *can* implement pipes
> > properly.
> 
> He is not making a point about whether or not single / multitasking
> systems can implement pipes. He is (correctly) pointing out an inadequate
> argument.
> 
> Under a suitable definition of pipes, you can show that single tasking
> operating systems can not implement pipes.


The simplest, broadest definition of pipes is that they are an
inter-process, FIFO communications channel from one processes to
another, which allows the 2nd process to start producing output
before the first process terminates.

A single-tasking OS is fundamentally incapable of fulfilling this
definition properly.



> 
> Comparing 2 implementations of pipes without a definition of pipes is not
> enough to show that one implementation isn't actually pipes.
> 
> > DR-DOS implements pipes properly.
> 
> I'll take your word on that one.
> 
> -ed
> 
> --
>                                                      | u98ejr
>                                                      | @
>              Share, and enjoy.                       | eng.ox
>                                                      | .ac.uk

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:24 -0500



Dave wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:40:54 -0800, "Keldon Warlord 2000"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >"Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:01:49 GMT, "gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Get a crip Erik, these components have reached rock bottom prices.
> >Software
> >> >has not.
> >>
> >> It has for linux users. <g>
> >
> >...depending on which idiot is stupid enough to give it away for free.
> 
> Wonder who's stupider - the idiots who give all that great stuff away
> for free, or the idiots who pay for windows crap when they could get
> linux and linux apps for free?

good point.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the hell is MS thinking?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:34:16 -0500



Johannes Bauer wrote:
> 
> Why the hell do sysadmins use Win2k on their servers? What do I need a
> GUI for to have a great server machine? What do I need pretty icons
> and plug & play and all that crap for?
> 
> Windows is just the instable version of Linux for users who are too
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> dumb to handle the real thing.

If Windows ever reached such a level of sophistication,  I would
quit hounding Microshaft.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:34:37 -0500



Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> > Doesn't flow well.
> >
> > Try again
> 
> Why haven't you got anything in your Sig about Goodwin himself (since you
> always object violently to that law)?
> 

Godwin has never slandered me.


> -Ed
> 
> --
>                                                      | u98ejr
>                                                      | @
>              Share, and enjoy.                       | eng.ox
>                                                      | .ac.uk

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:30:52 +0000
From: Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.

Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> 
> Can I, or can I not write my own printf() which behaves utterly and
> completely differently than the printf() in the standard library?

In C? No.

In your own variant of that language? You do what you like.

You have a constitutional right to do whatever the hell you like in
Kulkis C, as long as it doesn't kill anyone or try to push drugs. But
you cannot write a C program, as defined by the International Standard
ISO/IEC 9899:9999, in which you define your own printf. Even if you are
an implementor, your printf must behave as the Standard requires, if you
want your implementation to be conforming.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place." - Dennis M Ritchie, 29 July 1999.
C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
K&R answers, C books, etc: http://users.powernet.co.uk/eton

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis: please trim the sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:36:26 -0500



"." wrote:
> 
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Clamchu wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey bastard, what the hell's up with that ugly .sig?
> 
> > Exercising my right of free speech.  Specifically, voicing my
> > opinion of people who have participated in extensive, repeated
> > slander against me.
> 
> Actually, this right does not extend to usenet.  See the rec.skiing.*
> fiasco of last year for confirmation.

Did the communications on rec.skiing.* violate the law (such as
making credible death threats, posting kiddie porn, or acts of
treason, sedition, espionage, or threatening government officials) ???


> 
> You live in a different country than you think you do.
> 
> -----.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My long signature
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:47 -0500



"." wrote:
> 
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fuck you all
> > The signature will continue to grow at a rate of 1 user per day from now
> > on until you all get over it
> > This is your punishment for dissing me
> 
> Actually, you probably shouldnt have said that from a yahoo account.

Read the headers, idiot. 

*I* did not write that.


> Going through with your threat for any length of time will violate
> their AUP, and your account will be terminated. :)

1) I did not write that
2) I *NEVER* post from a Yahoo account.  That is merely my return address.

> 
> When making moronic, spoiled brat threats on usenet (such as it is:
> a bastion of such threats for nigh until 20 years), its best to
> make damn sure you can follow through with them without looking
> like an idiot.


abuse@Yahoo once got upset about some complaint some idiot filed.
I patiently explained to them that *ZERO* yahoo equipment was used
to post my message (I use Altopia for my USENET access), and that
I have a right to post *ANY* of my actual e-mail addresses for
those who want to contact me.

The people at Yahoo wisely buggered off and have never eeped since.


> 
> -----.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My long signature
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:40:22 -0500



"." wrote:
> 
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>
> >> Fuck you all
> >> The signature will continue to grow at a rate of 1 user per day from now
> >> on until you all get over it
> >> This is your punishment for dissing me
> 
> > I didn't write that.  [check the headers]
> 
> Why, because youre posting with mozilla?  :)

Check the path: header

> 
> Thats hardly proof.
> 

Man, you're a stupid fuck.


> -----.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is this odd security behaviour by MS?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:41:34 -0500



"." wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > "David Steinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:97eq43$cqn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Adam Warner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> : I'm sure Erik will be able to clear up any misunderstanding :-)
> >>
> >> Or, perhaps Chad will explain again how he figures that Microsoft is doing
> >> a much better job at keeping its users up to date on security issues than
> >> the makers of OpenSSH.
> 
> > At least Microsoft alerts their customers to potential dangers. I don't

Only after two or more years of security complaints by other customers....




> > believe I saw a posting to Bugtraq by any of the SSH people this month
> > in relation to the numerous vulnerabilities exposed.
> 
> Thats because theyve been covered in previous months, chad.  And
> btw, since youve only been subscribed for about 3.5 weeks, I hardly
> think youre in a position to say anything at all about bugtraq's
> report record, eh?
> 
> Once again, chad is lying.

Correct.


> 
> -----.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Reefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:04 GMT


"Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Translation:
>
> Reefer was hitting the bong so often he never noticed that BSOD's.


That was a OS that u could some productive work with, but u wouldnt know
anything about that, would u Kulkis?, i mean
-after all, what was Linsux in 93? kernel 0.01 or something,
hardwaresupport? LOOOOLLLL...!!!!!!!

A shell and emacs....very good to do ...erhhh...nothing on....



------------------------------

From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:38:40 GMT


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:24bh79.piv.ln@gd2zzx...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
> >
> > The IE port is fact (AFAIK); my understanding is that it was a
> > saleable product.  However, there are two essential differences.
>
> I don't think so. It was a huge memory hog, unstable and incredibly slow.
> It only ran on a single version of Solaris. Of course if you read the
> Microsoft web page about the port you would believe it was the best
> thing to ever hit Unix! I have never heard anyone that tried it say
> anything good about it.

I have a Solaris box (Ultra10) sitting underneath my desk at work.

I installed Gnome on it because CDE sucks. Gnome is largely unstable
and crashes frequently. Rebooting the Sun box, or even logging out
sometimes causes Gnome to die, meaning I usually have to reinstall
it to get it up and running again.

Netscape no longer starts for me. It complains about not having
an X server present, or no connections left or something, even though
every other applications starts 3/4 of the time. I say 3/4 of the
time because when I launch an application, say, GEdit (because
vi and emacs are overkill), it will start 3/4 of the time. The other
1/4, it will load, but never show up. I must kill it and try again
and it usually works the second time.

I installed IE. It had a very simplistic installer and didn't require
editing of text files or copying files around or making any
links, etc, it did everything automatically.

I ran it, it has run every single time I have called it or dbl-clicked
on the icon I created for it.

I have never had it crash and it has loaded every single page I've
requested it to, and faster, than Netscape ever did when it worked.

I thank God every day that I don't have to use that box as my
desktop because the state of Unix and Linux is so poor, I would
have to shoot myself if I did. When I do have to use it for whatever
reason, it's nice to have a little bit of something working that I
can always count on.

-Chad



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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Breaking up is so very hard to do...
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:47:45 GMT

The trial of Microsoft has resumed and...

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4966807.html

Taken from the article:
=======================
The severe questioning of Jackson's comments and his decision led some 
experts to conclude that Microsoft stands a good chance of having parts 
of the breakup order overturned or sent back to the trial court. 

"Overall, things did not go well for the government," said law professor 
Kovacic, who concluded that the court will rip up Jackson's 1999 
"findings of fact." The findings, which are a judge's distillation of 
what was proven true at trial, is typically sacrosanct. 

"It's clear Jackson will not get the benefit of the doubt typically 
afforded trial judges," Kovacic said. There is "absolutely no way" that 
Microsoft will be broken up. 
===========================

Will they break up Microsoft or won't they?

On the "Findings of Fact" issue:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4954339.html

Taken from the article:

WASHINGTON--The appellate judges overseeing the latest phase of the 
Microsoft antitrust case are divided over the findings of fact from U.S. 
District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson, an indication that the court may 
revisit some issues in the case in a hearing Tuesday.
===================

Are they findings of fact, or aren't they?

-- 
Pete
All your no fly zone are belong to us

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