Linux-Advocacy Digest #558, Volume #32 Wed, 28 Feb 01 14:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Dan Pop)
Re: My long signature (Brian Langenberger)
Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship ("muppet")
Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship (BlackburnP)
Re: [OT] .sig (Micah Cowan)
Re: Hijacking the IP stack (Peter da Silva)
Re: What the hell is MS thinking? ("Joel Barnett")
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Richard Heathfield)
Re: What the hell is MS thinking? ("Joel Barnett")
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Lawrence Kirby)
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Lawrence Kirby)
Re: why open source software is better ("Edward Rosten")
Re: why open source software is better (David Masterson)
Re: [OT] .sig (Dave Vandervies)
Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: why open source software is better (David Masterson)
Re: My long signature (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Aaron Kulkis)
johon ("news.tmb.ru")
Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7) ("Bryant Charleston, MCSE")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: 28 Feb 2001 16:46:44 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Heathfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Michael Rubenstein wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:53:01 +0000, Richard Heathfield
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >In the C programming language, if you use the printf function, you are
>> >/required/ to include <stdio.h>. If you use printf, and do not include
>> >this header, you are no longer writing in C.
>>
>> Actually, you are not required to include <stdio.h> to use
>> printf; you may also just code a prototype for the function
>> yourself.
>
>Yes, my apologies. I had forgotten that possibility. Of course, it must
>match the stdio.h prototype byte-for-byte.
It doesn't! The following prototype is OK, although it doesn't match
the <stdio.h> one byte-for-byte:
int printf(const char format[], ...);
Furthermore, I believe even this prototype is OK:
int printf(char *format, ...);
Dan
--
Dan Pop
CERN, IT Division
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail: CERN - IT, Bat. 31 1-014, CH-1211 Geneve 23, Switzerland
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My long signature
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:22:52 +0000 (UTC)
<snip!>
Does anyone else see the irony of a long-winded, occasionally
flame-filled thread on the subject of bandwidth conservation?
*I* find it amusing, in any case...
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From: "muppet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:21:46 -0000
> * ERWin (a top notch database modeling tool.. i'm a web app developer)
> * TOAD (a tool for oracle application developers)
Oracle Enterprise edition is available for Linux - this comes with a fairly
good set of management tools, I don't know if they include AppBuilder
(Borland Jbuilder + extra bugs), but it may not help too much with writing
DB apps, but it's worth a look. The download is huge though - beg borrow or
steal someones T1.
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From: BlackburnP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:19:47 -0800
Robert MacGregor wrote:
>BTW.. I know Quake III is available for linux.. will it take
full
>advantage of the 3D processing of my GeForce 256?
>
>Thanks,
>-Robert
>
>
Check out tom's hardware at www.tomshardware.com he just did a
massive review of the new unified nVidia drivers for linux -
brief summary: performance is slighty poorer than on Windows but
not much
Pete.
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
From: Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 28 Feb 2001 09:29:16 -0800
Mark McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:10:50 GMT, chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I'm an American too, and sadly I'd have to disagree. America breeds more
> >>immature, online, shit-talkers than any other country online.
> >
> >Idiot. That's only because there's more of us online.
>
> I thnk the point is, there seem to be more immature online prats per
> capita from the US than elsewhere. Maybe you have a policy of offering
> internet access first to the dolts?
Three words:
America OnLine
^ ^ ^
which claims to be the number one Inturnett perviedur in the nation.
If this is true, I'd have to say that you are absolutely correct in
your assessment.
(Note to people reading this on AOL - I'm half-joking).
Micah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Hijacking the IP stack
Date: 28 Feb 2001 17:24:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks. There is an article in this, and it won't be very kind to M$.
The BSD networking stack development was funded by the US Government to provide
a reference implementation of the networking protocols. With few exceptions,
every TCP/IP stack out there that I'm aware of uses this code at its base.
Microsoft is to be commended on making use of the best available implementation
for a change.
(now everyone's going to think my evil twin wrote this. :->)
--
`-_-' In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.
'U` "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: WWFD?
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From: "Joel Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the hell is MS thinking?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:28:57 -0800
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Joel Barnett wrote:
> >
> > "Johannes Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >Why ?
> > > Because you can prove to the world that Windows is the "superior" OS
> > > thus increasing the number of people who buy it thus increasing the
> > > money MS earns thus increasing the support Windows will get by
> > > Microsoft. "Make a better world"
> >
> > I have no interest in promoting Windows, nor do I believe it is superior
to
> > Linux. I need the functionality that W2k terminal server offers and I
know
> > of no equal or better alternative.
>
> This must be some really strange set of requirements. I can't think of a
single
> application for which terminal server would be appropriate, which another
> alternative isn't a better choice. Please enlighten me, why do you need
> terminal server?
A remote sales office has 5 users who nedd to do the usual sort of stuff,
input customer orders, run sales reports, check customer order status, etc..
For this they need to be able to use the application we have for this. This
app, (inhouse developed), and it's database reside on a Netware 4.x server
at our main office. The terminal server allows the remote users to connect
via a VPN, and do their work. They also use a contact mgr., (Goldmine), over
the terminal server. The remote office has a peer to peer network of W2k
workstations, a router, firewall, and a fractional T1 line.
Basically, the TS allows the remote users to work as if they were in our
main office. Instead of being connected to our LAN via a cat5 cable, they
are connected over the internet through a VPN tunnel.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >I don't need to visit a website to know how well our W2k terminal
server
> > is
> > > >working.
> > > But maybe you'd need one to show you the clear facts: For every one
> > > Windows-server that runs stable (high uptime) there are dozens (if not
> > > hundreds) of Linux-servers (well, Linux, Unix, BSD, etc.) that run
> > > stable. Point proven?
> >
> > I am not denying the validity of the information you are referring to.
> >
> > You asked why someone would run a Windows server OS. I have told you why
I
> > do. If there is a better alternative for me, I would like to know.
>
> What is your criteria, and let us have a whack at it.
The criteria is do what we are doing currently. I would like to know if
there is an alternative. Our Netware 4.x servers (file & print services)
will be replaced by Linux boxes running samba & Netatalk. For this purpose I
see no reason to use W2k server or even Netware 5.x. Linux will do the job
as good or better at a better price.
>
> > If there
> > isn't, then you have a good reason why someone would use Windows as a
server
> > OS.
>
> I would honestly like to know why terminal server is a win for you. I have
> looked at it, and aside from the novelty, I can't think of a single
practical
> use.
>
>
> >
> > jbarntt
>
> --
> The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
> The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
> consistency.
> -- Albert Einstein
> ------------------------
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
jbarntt
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:29:25 +0000
From: Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Dan Pop wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Heathfield
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Michael Rubenstein wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually, you are not required to include <stdio.h> to use
> >> printf; you may also just code a prototype for the function
> >> yourself.
> >
> >Yes, my apologies. I had forgotten that possibility. Of course, it must
> >match the stdio.h prototype byte-for-byte.
>
> It doesn't! The following prototype is OK, although it doesn't match
> the <stdio.h> one byte-for-byte:
>
> int printf(const char format[], ...);
>
> Furthermore, I believe even this prototype is OK:
>
> int printf(char *format, ...);
I just looked at the subject line of the thread again. Very ironic. :-)
Of course, you are correct.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place." - Dennis M Ritchie, 29 July 1999.
C FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
K&R Answers: http://users.powernet.co.uk/eton/kandr2/index.html
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From: "Joel Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the hell is MS thinking?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:38:47 -0800
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:97j4b0$l0c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >Hardly. Windows is not a version of Linux. Our W2k terminal server is
> >> >not
> >> Really? Win is not a version of Linux? Damn thanks for telling! I
> >> always thought it was just X11 running on those machines. If you didn't
> >> get the irony by now I make it clearer: Windows is a dummed-down OS
> >> that tries to be as functional as Linux.
> >>
> >
> > I really don't care if it is 'dumbed down' and I don't know if MS makes
> > it in an attempt to duplicate the functionality of Linux. Fact is, for
> > what we use it for, it works great. Period. Now, if I could do the same
> > thing with Linux, I'd definitely be interested.
>
> You can use Linux as a terminal server.
Yes, but will it work in our situation ?
-Windows clients.
-Visual Foxpro app runs on the terminal server.
-Also, the TS runs contact mgr, (Goldmine), software and MS office. Granted,
these could be replaced with Linux equivalents, but what about the Foxpro
app. This is inhouse developed software and the remote users MUST be able to
use it.
>
> -Ed
>
>
>
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
jbarntt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Kirby)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:08:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Aaron Kulkis" writes:
...
>> > > Wrong. The behaviour of printf is defined by the ISO C Standard:
>> > >
>> > > 7.19.6.3 The printf function
>> > >
>> > > Synopsis
>> > >
>> > > [#1]
>> > >
>> > > #include <stdio.h>
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> > You make my point for me.
>>
>> No, I do not. You have misunderstood. Why does this not surprise me?
>
>
>I believe you do not understand what you yourself have written.
Fair comment if you look at this quote in isolation. However it turns out
that this does *not* mean that <stdio.h> must be included to be able to
use printf(). To interpret the standard you have to look at it as a
whole and in particular the following text is relevant:
"Provided that a library function can be declared without reference to
any type defined in a header, it is also permissible to declare the
function and use it without including the associates header."
So this is a perfectly valid C program (although restrict should strictly
be added to the first argument for C99).
int printf(const char *, ...);
int main(void)
{
printf("Hello, world.\n");
return 0;
}
The existence of standard library functions in the C language is *not*
dependent on the code including headers.
--
=========================================
Lawrence Kirby | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilts, England | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Kirby)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:18:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Aaron Kulkis" writes:
...
>Can I, or can I not write my own printf() which behaves utterly and
>completely differently than the printf() in the standard library?
>
>a) no
>B) YES.
You can define a function called printf() as long as you make it static
and don't include <stdio.h>. If you try to define your own
void printf(void)
{
}
or even one that matchs printf's parameters and return type you invoke
undefined behaviour because you are conflicting with the version in
the standard library (or strictly because you are defining a reserved
identifier). This means that your code is no longer valid C.
--
=========================================
Lawrence Kirby | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilts, England | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: why open source software is better
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:52:51 +0000
>> Why should I give people my fancy highy optimised code ?
>
> It's entirely up to you whether you do so or not. BTW, what does your
> "fancy highy optimised" program do? What langauge is it written in?
Visual Basic.
-Ed
--
| u98ejr
| @
Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
| .ac.uk
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:12:39 -0500
Subject: Re: why open source software is better
From: David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> "phil" == phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:07:16 -0500, vrml3d.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I wrote:
>>> The subject line for this message should be "why open source
>>> software is better for the *customer*".
>> No, it should be "why open source software is better for the
>> customer in the short run". Anything that drives producers out of
>> the market in the long run is bad for consumers in the long run,
>> business cycles not withstanding.
> OSS will only drive proprietary out if it is perceived as better.
Not true. OSS will drive proprietary out of the market if the maker
of the proprietary product feels that it cannot pour the investment
necessary into the product to compete with all the "free" development
the OSS product is getting.
> For example, if OpenOffice drives out MS Office, it will be because
> users consider that it better suits their needs. This IMO would be a
> good thing; computer users don't benefit from upgrade treadmills and
> other MS tactics.
You obviously have a loathing for M$ (who doesn't ;-), but that colors
your statement above. What if it was OpenQuicken and Intuit Quicken?
Or Linux and Sun Solaris? Or Emacs and Wordstar (well...)?
--
David Masterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Rational Software (but I don't speak for them)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Vandervies)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: 28 Feb 2001 17:30:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Vandervies) wrote:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Dave Vandervies wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (After all, I've been mistaken for an American...)
>> >
>> >You mean you're not one?
>>
>> No, I'm Canadian, and the only thing I have in common with a lot of
>> Americans is that I'm forced to share a continent with them.
>
>And what's that continent called? You may not be a Merkin, but you
>certainly are an American in the original sense of the word.
You're implicitly supporting my point here. In the original sense of the
word, yes, I am an American, but not in the current sense of the word.
(It might not be a bad idea to not bother debating whether that's a
Good Thing.)
dave
--
Dave Vandervies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah. You might write a Windows program that actually works, and that
would put a spoke in the Linux advocates' wheel, would it not?
--Richard Heathfield in comp.lang.c
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:19:03 -0500
Peter Hayes wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:37:13 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Marada C. Shradrakaii" wrote:
> > >
> > > >>65 - Mostek
> > > >>68 - Motorola
> > > >>74 - Fairchild
> > > >>80 - Intel
> > > >
> > > >Does this mean Harris got 18? :-)
> > > >
> > > >e.g. 1802, 1861.
> > >
> > > Is there a list of this somewhere? Might be an interesting factoid.
> > >
> > > Also, where does the Intel 4004 fit in, if they're supposed to be using 80*?
> > >
> >
> > It might have been before the prefix scheme.
>
> I thought it merely indicated the size of the data bus
Yes, that seems to have been the logic of the numbering.
the 4004 is a very early LSI chip...
I'm sure that the 7400 series is older, but apprently, chip numbers
were something of personal taste (or something) until the manufacturer's
prefix method was adopted.
>
> Peter
> --
>
> The past is almost as mysterious as the future.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:22:37 -0500
Subject: Re: why open source software is better
From: David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> "phil" == phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:07:52 +1100, Craven Moorehead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The most successful Linux company Redhat is derided by most hardcore
>> Unix guys as a heap of crap. The AOLer of Linuxes. It is the most
>> successful and is still an economic basket case.
> Red Hat recently bought out another company for $47,000,000 in RH
> stock.
What's the PT Barnum line...?
> It could do this because the market values RH high enough for the
> stock to be valuable. Note, the opinion of people *putting their
> money where their mouth is* is that RH is a valuable company.
> If you think it isn't valuable, I suggest you buy RH put options,
> of other instruments that imply you are betting the share price will
> go down.
Red Hat's 52-week high is 79 9/16. It's price today is ~6. Seems a
lot of people have become dis-enamored with Red Hat.
--
David Masterson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Rational Software (but I don't speak for them)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My long signature
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:25:13 -0500
Brian Langenberger wrote:
>
> <snip!>
>
> Does anyone else see the irony of a long-winded, occasionally
> flame-filled thread on the subject of bandwidth conservation?
>
> *I* find it amusing, in any case...
Exposes the hypocrisy, doesn't it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:27:30 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > I didn't say it wasn't improvement. I said it was more fixing a
> > deficiancy than improving. Both terms apply, but fixing the deficiancy
> > has a higher ranking in my estimation.
>
> Oh, yes. I remember, you're speaking EFed up English.
> How is fixing a deficiency not making an improvement?
According to Mafia$oft, fixing a deficiency is *NOT* an improvement,
especially when compared to adding important features like dancing paperclips.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "news.tmb.ru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: johon
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:16:05 +0300
Здравствуйте. Вы не знакомы с ДЖОНОМ ХОККИНСОМ? И если знакомы то
не
могли бы вы представить какую либо контактную информацию о нем. А то у нас
есть тема для обсуждения с ним.
Заранее благодарен JIOUR
Hello. Are not familiar with Johon Hokkins? And if are familiar that
Not
You could present what or the contact information on it(him). And that at
us
There is a theme for discussion with it(him).
It is thankful in advance JIOUR
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From: "Bryant Charleston, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:41:00 GMT
Yup, I just finished downloading the three "CDs" last night (thank GOD for
Cable!).
I was checking over the HCL, and found that the previous poster's comments
on Solaris' more-limited support for various hardware (as compared to RH7,
which I installed w/o difficulty the other night) was accurate. No biggie,
though... I'll deal with it.
I have no problem using RH7, but I'm just a bit concerned that experience
gained w/it may not be seen as "authentic" enough to get me into the Unix
domain. But I can still start off w/the CLI and then build from there.
I am curious to see if I can get Solaris 8 up and running, and I have a lot
of older hardware that may be compatible w/it. I'll check over the HCL
documentation anyway and see what I can do!
Thanks again, folks!
"Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message news:97idco$4qg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [[ PLEASE DON'T SEND ME EMAIL COPIES OF POSTINGS ]]
>
> "Bryant Charleston, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I've just spoken to a Solaris rep and he showed me the link to their site
> >where Solaris 8 can be purchased. He says it's essentially an improved
> >Version 7, which is quite popular from what I've been able to ascertain.
> >There's a n X86 version ($75 -- not TOO expensive, just like you said). I
> >think this is it!
>
> You can download it from the same location for free.
>
>
> Casper
> --
> Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
> to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
> Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
> be fiction rather than truth.
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