Linux-Advocacy Digest #914, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Mar 01 01:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Alan)
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Ed Allen)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (Ian Pulsford)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (Russ Allbery)
Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:51:41 -0500
mlw wrote:
>
> Jan Johanson wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > David Brown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ayende Rahien wrote in message <992mrk$m2b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Microsoft provides no proof that its products are secure.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Should a military organization use software which it has no proof is
> > > > >secure?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I bet Microsoft shows the source to the US military, I would also bet
> > the
> > > > >same
> > > > >> is not said for the german military.
> > > > >
> > > > >Since the german army is going to purchase more than 1500 licenses,
> > they
> > > > can
> > > > >get the code and review it.
> > > > >Hell, considerring how much leverage they have, they could've done so
> > long
> > > > >ago.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think you have a *slight* misconception about what it means to view
> > source
> > > > code. MS could quite easily hand the German military (or any other
> > > > customer) a CD with w2k, and another CD full of w2k source code - you
> > have
> > > > absolutely no way of knowing that your w2k binary is in any way related
> > to
> > > > your w2k source, since you cannot do a full re-build of all the
> > software.
> > > > You can look at MS source, if you are big enough, but you cannot touch
> > it.
> > > > This form of source code is worse than useless, since it gives you a
> > false
> > > > sense of security - there is nothing to stop MS giving you a binary CD
> > of
> > > > w2k + NSA back door, and a source CD of w2k - NSA back door. Or MS back
> > > > door, or whatever other code they don't want you to see.
> > >
> > > Correct.
> > >
> > > If you can't compile it FROM THE SOURCE THEY GIVE YOU, then it's
> > worthless.
> >
> > Fortunately you CAN so it's quite worthy.
>
> You don't even know what you are talking about do you?
>
> Microsoft source code requires the full specification of the build environment,
> access to the constant updates as development happens, compilers, assemblers,
> linkers, resource tools, build machines, yadda yadda. Windows NT/2K is very
> complex. Just look at the NT/2K DDK build environment.
Translation: after inspecting the source code....you have to *trust*
Microsoft...a DOCUMENTED CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION...when they tell you
that the executables are compiled from the SAME source code they let
you read, and ONLY the executables that they let you read.
Only a fool trusts Mafia$oft.
>
> --
> I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
> ------------------------
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:54:43 -0500
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> > >
> > > Andy Walker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jan Johanson wrote in message
> <3ab419a9$0$48766$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/11929.html
> > > > >
> > > > >"Lockheed Martin is working on the design of the new US CVN 77
> aircraft
> > > > >carrier, and Microsoft Federal Systems is to co-operate in the ship's
> > > > >information technology architecture. This will, we kid you not, be
> based on
> > > > >Windows 2000. Microsoft Consulting Services will meanwhile chip in
> with
> > > > tech
> > > > >support during the ship's software design, development and
> deployment."
> > > > >
> > > > >Cause the Navy knows what everyone else already knows, W2K is rock
> solid
> > > > >enough to trust lives to.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This seems to explain why Americans keep hitting friendly troops
> then....
> > > > How about a competition for the first person to knock out the U.S.
> carrier
> > > > with the I love you virus!
> > >
> > > LOL! FULL SPEED AHEAD! DAMN THE TORPEDOES!! (WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOUR
> > > MOUSE POINTER FROZE UP!!)
> >
> > NO!!!! NO!!!! Don't start Word NOW!!! NO!!!!!
> > *poof*
> > BSOD
> > boom
> > glug...
> > glug...
> > glug...
> >
>
> What does "BSOD" stand for? Never heard of it - must be a unix term.
You've never seen the "Blue Screen of Death" ???
And yet, you claim to use Mafia$oft LoseDogs98 or 2000 or whatever...
exclusively.
Are you truly this much of an idiot, or do you just play one on USENET
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:59:18 GMT
And your point is?
Are you suggesting I am part of the grand conspiracy, and that I
bookmark (er... excuse me, add to favorites) every anti-MS link I come
across. Well ya, I do, but...
I did a google search looking up MS and weanies. I opened the link, it
had MS saying a pinhole, and to the best of my memory, that is what it
was. So I didn't do the in depth analysis necessary for a doctoral
dissertation on the correlation between microsoft company programmers
fascination with weenies and Netscape programmers (suspect penis envy
but can't find an undergrad TA willing to do the research). So I
noted that MS called it a pinhole. I also noted that 747s can fly
through what some corporations call pinholes (insert biblical
reference to camel going through eye of the needle here).
How did I do on your grand conspiracy theory?
On 19 Mar 2001 19:15:08 -0600, "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hey Alan, you also didn't link to the VERY next ZDNet article that states
>it's bullshit, just as I said:
>http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2550387,00.html
>
>"Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Sorry Chad...
>> I snipped Jan Johanson writing that it is complete bullshit and does
>> not exist.
>>
>> Sorry about that.
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:08:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:03:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad
>> >Everett) wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>>Evidence? You call this evidence? What you wrote is complete bullshit
>and
>> >>>does not exist in anything but your fantasy.
>> >>>
>> >http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2550735,00.html
>> >
>> >MS calls it a pinhole. Some could claim you could fly a Boeing 747
>> >through it.
>>
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:01:23 -0500
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Rex Ballard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Microsoft openly admits that they have back-doors, which they claim to
> > use for
> > tracking software piracy.
>
> LIAR - prove it.
>
> >Given how difficult it is to purchase a
> > computer system
> > without Microsoft software, it's quite likely that Microsoft may have
> > other practical
> > uses for it's "back doors".
>
> Difficult? I can and have done it 100s of times. Your statement makes no
> logical sense.
>
You have made several hundred SEPERATE purchases of fully assembled
intel-based computers without Windows pre-installed, nor charged
a price based upon the assumption that Windows is pre-installed.
Really.
Do you have several bridges in New York up for sale, also?
> >
> > We know that Microsoft puts critical serial numbers in Word documents
> > shipped across
> > the internet.
>
> bullshit
And yet, it is a documented FACT, you JACKASS.
>
> >We know that these serial numbers can be used to ease the
> > cracking of
> > DES and RC5 encryption keys (having a known pattern eliminates the need
> > for a brute-force
> > hack).
>
> Bullshit.
Another DOCUMENTED FACT you LYING JACKASS.
>
> >
> > We know that ActiveX controls can be used to read any file and have it
> > transferred to
> > any site, at a random interval after a site is visited.
>
> Only matters if it's done without your permission. We know that perl scripts
> can be used to read any file and have it transfered to any site at a random
> interval aftera a site is visited. so?
>
> > We know that
> > VBScript attachements
> > can be used to capture critical information and have it e-mailed to a
> > key location.
>
> We know that binary attachments can do any fucking thing the users
> permissions allow it to do - so? So does any other OS.
>
> the only thing I know from reading your post is that you are more of an
> idiot than I first guessed.
You are not only a liar, you are an exceedingly POOR one at that.
Now, run along you donkey-raping shit-eater, before I humiliate
you some more.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 05:01:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Have you ever built NT source code?
>
To give you an idea of the complexity, Jeff Merkey, who *has*
says it takes 35 hours per compile.
--
GPL says
"What's mine is ours,
If you make *OUR* stuff better the result is still ours."
------------------------------
From: Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:05:55 +1000
Shades wrote:
>
> Can anyone imagine, let's say a CTO of a large multinational company, the
> kind Linux advocates would love say they beat MS in, jumping into one of
> these newsgroups and reading the "professionalism" expressed in this
> group(see below)? Unix people have always been touted as being this
> arrogant and narrow-minded and I have had my fair share of the
> unprofessional manner.
Please don't confuse Unix and Linux advocates. Read comp.unix.advocacy
for a much more saner advocacy group (except for the C.O.L.A.
crosspostings).
IanP
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: 19 Mar 2001 21:18:19 -0800
In gnu.misc.discuss, T Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It doesn't require a zealot to understand and agree with the FSF
> definition of "free software", which doesn't apply completely to
> anything code available under a GPL.
Could you please point at the portion of the definition that implies this?
<http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#Non-CopyleftedFreeSoftware>
appears to flatly contradict you and unequivocally and without
reservations define as free software quite a few things that are not
covered by the GPL.
I've not yet heard a definition of "free software" that doesn't include
software released in the public domain or under the MIT/X Consortium
license. Those licenses don't guarantee the freedom of derivative works,
but that's not required under the FSF definition of "free software" or
under any other widely used definition that I've seen. At first glance,
you sound like you're attaching the definition of "copylefted software" to
the term "free software," which is incorrect.
RMS and the FSF are very specific and precise about their definitions. I
think that people who are referring specifically to their definitions
should endeavor to be equally precise, since otherwise the FSF ends up
being blamed for using fuzzy definitions when they actually aren't.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:26:57 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> >Chad Myers wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> > In article <va9t6.87051$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> > >> Ed Allen wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > In article <cCOs6.82336$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> > >> > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> > >> > >It's alright, laugh it up. I know you're really just jealous
> >> >> > >> > >because you know that I'm right. You know that the only company
> >> >> > >> > >who really takes Linux seriously (if that's what it really is)
> >> >> > >> > >is IBM, and IBM has a poor track history with desktop and
> >> >> > >> > >small-server OSen.
> >> >> > >> > I suppose that is true if you have a secret definition for
> >> >> > >> > "seriously" like Erik likes to do.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > How many more millions does Intel need to invest to qualify in
> >> >> > >> > your private definition ?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Lets not forget that AMD is encouraging Linux developers to use
>their
> >> >> > >> > coming 64-bit chips. They don't qualify, why ?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > SGI does not qualify either. Why not ? They are planning to add
> >> >> > >> > their NUMA technology and sell Itanium cluster machines.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Then too, all the universities using Linux to put together their
> >> >> > >> > own Supercomputers are not companies either.
> >> >> > >> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1113447
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > What do you think the graduating students will recommend for use
> >> >> > >> > at their new jobs ?
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Yes, a very excellent point!
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >It's a very common problem.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Universities using archaic or esoteric systems to teach their students,
> >> >> > >and then when the students graduate and get out into the real world
> >> >> > >where companies have to make money, they realize they know nothing
> >> >> > >necessary to compete.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Meanwhile, the intelligent individuals who decided not to waste
> >> >> > >their time on worthless university "computer science", and instead
> >> >> > >decided to learn the hot technologies that pay well and are making
> >> >> > >a fortune and are in high demand, even in today's economy.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Those students may suggest it to their employers, but their employers
> >> >> > >will laugh because they know the truth about linux.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > I suspected you might ignore my refutation of your false claim and
> >> >> > make another to change the subject, hoping nobody would notice.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry Chad sock-puppets do not think or write well without their
> >> >> > masters' hand up their butt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't usually post HTML but this one's for you and I would not
> >> >> > want to strain your little neuron.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The first one is the *only* link I have seen for a W2K cluster.
> >> >> > It is one tenth as powerful as one of the Linux links beneath it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not everyone uses supercomputers. For the masses, Win2K is the fastest
> >> >> clustering solution you can buy (or can't buy, as the case may be).
> >> >> See www.tpc.org.
> >> >
> >> >Do "the masses" have $80,000 to spend in licensing fees to get lower
> >> >performance than can be obtained with $100 worth of Linux CD's?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> LIES LIES LIES! Debian is less than $15 from cheapbytes
> >> and even cheaper if you know what the internet is about.
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for setting me straight, Charlie.
> >
> >The Microsoft:Linux initial COST ratio isn't
> > 800:1, as i mistakenly suggested...it's 5333:1...or higher!
> >
> >
>
> Hell just tell the truth AK.
>
> It's INFINITY to 1.
That requires 2nd-order analysis. You know...like taking into effect
the fact that although a Windows administrator costs only 40% that of
a Unix admin, he's typically only 5% as productive.
Most of these readers can barely comprehend the first-order analysis.
>
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> The Linux clusters are accomplished only by stringing together hundreds
> >> >> of machines. It doesn't speak much about Linux that it's so low-performance
> >> >> that you need to string hundreds of machines to achieve any respectable
> >> >> performance.
> >> >
> >> >Must be why 1-, 2-, 4-, and 8-CPU mother boards always perform BETTER
> >> >when running Linux than when running LoseDOS.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > The second one explains that Linux clusters are rapidly climbing to
> >> >> > the top of the list of largest supercomputers.
> >> >>
> >> >> So? Stringing together hundreds of boxes isn't something to really
> >> >> be proud of, necessarily.
> >> >
> >> >Can you take 100 80386 boxes destined for the trash bin, and hook
> >> >them together to get supercomputer performance using any WINDOWS
> >> >product?
> >> >
> >> >a) yes
> >> >B) HELL NO!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Can you do this with Linux?
> >> >
> >> >a) no
> >> >B) HELL YES!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Ask the department at the Oakridge, TN nuclear weapons facility which
> >> >needed the throughput of a CRAY supercomputer, but didn't have the funds...
> >> >but were able to build a supercomputer and get the throughput and
> >> >performance they need using nothing other than old 80386 and 80486
> >> >machines collected from the trash-heaps of other departments.
> >> >
> >> >Let's see you try that with Mafia$oft operating systems
> >> >
> >> >Oh...and notice that Macneil Schwindler Corporation, the vendor of the
> >> >most widely used Finite Element Analysis software is now advertising
> >> >for Linux-people to go around to their most computationally demanding
> >> >customer sites and install:
> >> >
> >> > LINUX CLUSTERS
> >> >
> >> >...to run their high-end products.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> And even so, they're just competeing with
> >> >> Unix, for the most part. For the rest of the world, there's Windows.
> >> >>
> >> >> > How do you think working on and building clusters big enough to be
> >> >> > ranked among the top 500 supercomputers in the world deserves to be
> >> >> > labeled "using archaic or esoteric systems" ?
> >> >>
> >> >> In terms of how the world uses computing, this is a small portion of it.
> >> >> Granted, it is the largest portion in terms of MIPS, but in terms of
> >> >> people using them, many more people use Windows every day for servers
> >> >> and desktops. Linux is still a niche OS.
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Oil companies, biotech companies, and financial houses are hardly
> >> >> > what I would class as dead end jobs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Linux community is putting together several "Supercomputer On A
> >> >> > CD" distros so these clusters will become more common and the
> >> >> > knowledge of how to put them together and keep them tuned up will be
> >> >> > within the reach of every highschool science club.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This is the territory Bill is aching about getting in to and Linux
> >> >> > is here first and widening the gap.
> >> >>
> >> >> Not really. Bill goes after the big bucks, not some geeky niche.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I would let someone else show him this list if I were you, he has been
> >> >> > known to spit and throw things when he is unhappy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > <TITLE>Bookmarks for Chad Meyers</TITLE>
> >> >>
> >> >> It's "Myers", fuckwit.
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip: html post>
> >> >>
> >> >> -c
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >> >ICQ # 3056642
> >> >
> >>
> >> The rest of this I agree with.
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >
> >
> >--
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >ICQ # 3056642
> >
> >K: Truth in advertising:
> > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> >
> >
> >J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> >I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> >H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> >G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> >
> >F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> >E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
> >
> >D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
> >
> >C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> >B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> >A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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