Linux-Advocacy Digest #23, Volume #33 Fri, 23 Mar 01 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Chad Myers")
Re: An end to legacy hardware? ("Andy Walker")
Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month (GreyCloud)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What is user friendly? (GreyCloud)
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux + PostgreSQL + Apache + JDBC + Tomcat JSP / Servlets: Ready for prime
time? ("Flacco")
Re: What is user friendly? ("green")
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:43:51 GMT
"Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > "Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Chad Myers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles Lyttle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >
> > > > > >Intel and MS have been described as the "Great Duopoly". Until
recently
> > > > > >they worked closely together. Intel shared advanced info with MS so
MS
> > > > > >could have the OS ready to ship when Intel released the chip. Having
the
> > > > > >software ready to go insured fast adoption of the new chip. Recently,
> > > > > >however, MS managed to upset some at Intel by trying to dictate what
> > > > > >Intel could do in other areas. Now there is a minor civil war in
Intel
> > > > > >over its relationship with MS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Russ Lyttle
> > > > > >"World Domination through Penguin Power"
> > > > > >The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
> > > > > ><http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny you should mention that. Has anyone noticed AMD grabbing their
> > market
> > > > > share from Intel at a similar rate to Linux stealing it from Microsoft
?
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, the funny thing is, AMD is grabbing Intel's share, but Linux has
> > > > yet to even touch Microsoft in any market they're in.
> > > >
> > > > -c
> > > But Linux is keeping MS *out* of a lot of markets it would like to be
> > > in.
> >
> > Like? The University lab space? Nah, MS doesn't want there.
> >
> Like set-top boxes,
Well, MS hasn't really ventured into this space. The closest they
have is WebTV which was an acquisition.
They now have UltimateTV which will be a big hit in the DirecTV
world, and they will soon have XBox which will blow away anything
Linux has to offer in the home entertainment arena.
> test equipment
I don't know about this, but Embedded NT and 2K seem to be doing
well. Windows CE 3.0 seems to be a big seller as MS hasn't
abandonned it, and they are still developing for it, so there
must be some people buying it.
> CE is having a rough time thanks to
> the advent of Linux.
Not really. The PocketPC devices (running WinCE 3.0) are selling
like hotcakes and there's still no Linux powered palm device
on the market yet, or at least one that even shows up on any
palm device market share map.
> People don't just automatically jump on board the latest MS
> bandwaggon anymore.
PocketPC is a hot seller and is starting to give Palm a run
for their money. I wouldn't be so quick to stick my head
in the sand if I were you.
-c
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An end to legacy hardware?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:18:20 -0000
Craig Kelley wrote in message ...
>jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>Why on earth would you need unreliable fiber optic connection in order
>to use a hard disk?
>
>--
>It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
>Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
Fibre optic cable due to its nature has no problems with RF interference,
line noise, and power spikes. It also has the capability to sustain high
transfer rates over long distances. Idealy future machines will just be a
dumb terminal connected to a server via fiber optic like the original
design for networked machines. As a result future domestic products such as
video recorders, TVs etc will all connect to one box and the true
integration of video home entertainment will be realised.
Most cable TV at some stage relies on fibre optics and indeed many high end
audio cd and dat players connect in the same way to reduce noise.
I have never found fibre optic to be any more unreliable than cable, my cat
chewed up my cd players cable quite badly but it still performs perfectly!
We also use fibre optic at work on our video coding system and that also has
performed perfectly for several years without failure.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux @ $19.95 per month
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:02:19 -0800
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:23:50 GMT
> <afeu6.8700$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >"Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:99b65v$e58$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Linux is all the bad stuff of Unix, without any of the good
> >> > stuff.
> >> Care to elaborate?
> >>
> >> At my place of work we run DG/UX (admittedly an old installation) and Linux,
> >> I find many aspects of Linux superior to Unix.
> >> E.g. linuxconf, mailconf, locate, being able to use the up arrow to access
> >> you cmd history.
> >
> >It's more like making Unix a little more bearable, but I was referring
> >more at the systems level, however. Linux has shoddy SMP and network
> >threading (just to name a few), unlike most commercial Unicies and NT/2K.
>
> It's worse than that, Chad. Linux has absolutely horrible APIs, as they
> are not flexible enough (they're too simple, unlike NT/2K's).
> The GUI system is completely separate from the kernel, which leads to
> all sorts of confusion. Worse, there are *several look and feels*,
> all implemented by various applications and libraries in a completely
> chaotic fashion -- from the bare-bones simplisticness of Athena (which
> at least now has been upgraded from absolutely homely to reasonably
> useful with Xaw3d) to the tried-and-true Motif and its Lesstif clone
> to Java's two GUIs to various specialized tools such as xev (which is
> intended more for programmers) and oclock and daliclock, to the
> state-of-the-art GTK and QT which are duking it out for "king of the
> Linux desktop".
>
> And there's entirely far too much reliance on command-line techology.
> Unlike NT/2k, which gives helpful and attractive dialog screens,
> movable pulldown menus, and Rich Text Format, users on Linux must
> struggle along with well-documented but arcane command line scripts
> and config entries, which can allow for very complicated management.
>
> The Apache webserver system is widely regarded as one of the most
> complicated systems in the modern computing sphere; unlike IIS where
> one just writes the web pages and goes. Jakarta? Tomcat? SSL/TLS?
> All must be separately installed, or bundled.
>
> Java servlets are demonstrably inferior to their ActiveX component cousins.
> ActiveX components can do anything, unlike Java, which is limited (by
> design) to only those things allowed by its own SecurityManager.
>
> The Linux development environment has no standard. One can purchase
> IDEs or obtain them for free, if desired (Delphi comes to mind, although
> I've not used it; Cold Fusion, as well), but Microsoft shines in the
> realm of standardization and GUI technology with such tools as VC++.
No flames here, but.. On my other half of hard drive I have VC++ 6.0.
The C part is NISTL certified. The C++ part isn't. I have the MSDN
cdrom set and there are fundamental issues in regard to multiple class
inheritances. I found that vc++ choked on a few and had to look up the
go-arounds for these issues, while gcc compiled the same source without
any problems and ran without any problems. The VC++ does have some nice
features with respect to the new casting operators (?) and I do like the
use of letting the wizard build the mundane parts of the average GUI.
So far I've only found the VC compiler and VAX C to be top notch... but
the big gottcha is that the C part wasn't written by microsoft but by
NAT systems. Unfortunately, the NISTL has stopped testing C compilers
since dec. 1998. But when you get gcc for free... haha I can't resist
free.
I sure wish I could afford Suns compilers. :-(
> N O W ...
>
> Before anyone attacks me as being completely nuts :-) , I'll merely point
> out that the above is a bit of what might be construed as "flexible
> wording" -- the shining of a flashlight at completely the wrong
> angle can transform the most beautiful face into the most hideous
> monster, and one can look at the ugliest beast and see the heart of
> gold within, metaphorically speaking (anybody hearing the theme from
> a Disney movie yet? :-) ). Reread the above carefully.
>
> Linux has a good sound heart. Microsoft has a beautiful face.
>
> Spot The Difference.
>
> This doesn't mean Linux can't be improved. One bug in particular --
> and it is a legitimate bug -- is the NIC threading issue. Other
> bugs include issues with memory allocation (Linux likes to (used to like?)
> give away memory it doesn't have, then kill an arbitrary process when it
> runs out of swap space and asks for more). The CLI/GUI debate is an old one
> and ongoing, probably forever. Consistency of GUI is a minor but
> important issue to some. The X programming environment can get pretty
> raw -- though raw Windows is no picnic either.
>
> I'll also comment that Win2k is a decided improvement, or at least that's
> what I'm given to understand, over NT4 -- despite NT4's reliability claims.
> I haven't used it extensively enough to be sure.
>
> >
> >
> >> You must admit however Win2K is pretty shoddy as a Network Server OS.
> >
> >That's stupid. Win2K is a great server OS. Certainly better than Linux
> >at most tasks. If you need a 386 DNS server, Linux is your choice, but
> >for everything else, there's Win2K.
>
> I would be surprised if Win2k didn't run on a 386. It'll be dog slow
> and paging like crazy, of course -- it would be one of those
> "yeah, it can be done, but why bother?" sort of things.
>
> >
> >Linux sucks as a fileserver because it relies on Samba, which sucks.
>
> Ahem...there are other remote file access protocols than SMB, you
> know; the most obvious one is NFS (which has its own issues).
> Another is AFS, which never quite caught on AFAICT.
>
> I'm also given to understand that Microsoft upgraded SMB (in part
> because Samba was threatening to eat their lunch :-) ).
> Samba is now having some problems (one that I've noticed for example
> is that, if one edits a page on the Unix server, Samba doesn't
> always pick up the changes properly on a remote client, especially
> if it's already been read by said remote client).
>
> >It also has poor network threading (cite: Mindcraft and Linus' own
> >admissions) and still has that rediculous 2GB limit for the most part.
>
> Only on 32-bit machines. I'm given to understand 2.4.x will fix this
> also, and I already know a simple workaround (unfortunately, it has
> to be applied during compilation of the source code):
>
> g++ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D__USE_FILE_OFFSET64 ...
>
> As for network threading, I've already commented thereon. One would
> hope that's fixed by now.
>
> >
> >-c
> >
> >
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 45d:10h:38m actually running Linux.
> This is the best part of the message.
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:08:08 -0500
Charles Lyttle wrote:
>
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > "Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Chad Myers wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles Lyttle wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > > >
> > > > > >Intel and MS have been described as the "Great Duopoly". Until recently
> > > > > >they worked closely together. Intel shared advanced info with MS so MS
> > > > > >could have the OS ready to ship when Intel released the chip. Having the
> > > > > >software ready to go insured fast adoption of the new chip. Recently,
> > > > > >however, MS managed to upset some at Intel by trying to dictate what
> > > > > >Intel could do in other areas. Now there is a minor civil war in Intel
> > > > > >over its relationship with MS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >Russ Lyttle
> > > > > >"World Domination through Penguin Power"
> > > > > >The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
> > > > > ><http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny you should mention that. Has anyone noticed AMD grabbing their
> > market
> > > > > share from Intel at a similar rate to Linux stealing it from Microsoft ?
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, the funny thing is, AMD is grabbing Intel's share, but Linux has
> > > > yet to even touch Microsoft in any market they're in.
> > > >
> > > > -c
> > > But Linux is keeping MS *out* of a lot of markets it would like to be
> > > in.
> >
> > Like? The University lab space? Nah, MS doesn't want there.
> >
> Like set-top boxes, test equipment. CE is having a rough time thanks to
> the advent of Linux. People don't just automatically jump on board the
> latest MS bandwaggon anymore.
>
> > > Due to the advent of Linux, lots of decision makers have come to
> > > understand that they don't have to bend over for MS. Even though thay
> > > don't all adopt Linux, they ship something other than MS.
> >
> > But hardly any, if any are shipping anything Linux. MS' market share
> > is growing, perhaps not as fast, but no one is taking it away from them.
> > Linux, if anything, is taking Unix share, but not by much. I've yet
> > to see any server market share study that showed Linux as anything
> > other than "Other". Linux is big in ISPs and some low-end hosting providers,
> > but that's about it. Oh yeah, University niche too, but who cares.
> >
> > -c
> MS market share is growing : from about 0.00000000000000001% of all
> computers to 0.000000000000000011%. I looked at a new car yesterday. It
> had over 20 computers on board. Not one was running anything from MS.
>
Thank GOD!
A couple years ago, Seimens actually committed (for a while) to running
ALL of their embedded controllers for automotive applications with
Losedogs CE.
> 1. Windows - 4
> 2. EMS - 2
> 3. Security - 2
> 4. Airbags - 4
> 5. Entertainment - 5 or 6 ( I think)
> 6. Transmission - 1
> 7. Doors - 2
> 8. A/C - 2
> 9. Instrument Pnl - 2
>
> Probably others that I missed. The mirrors probably had one
> (positioning, defrosting) The optional HUD and mobile office features
> would add more.
>
> --
> Russ Lyttle
> "World Domination through Penguin Power"
> The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:10:47 -0500
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <0hnu6.9762$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> > Hmm, the funny thing is, AMD is grabbing Intel's share, but Linux has
> >> > yet to even touch Microsoft in any market they're in.
> >>
> >> Well Microsoft have all but lost the Internet server market.
> >
> >For "My Cat Fluffy" web sites, maybe. But there are now more NT/2K/SQL
> >hosting sites than ever, and MS still holds a majority market share
> >in the web server market in the Fortune 500 and major eBusiness
> >companies. In fact, Apache holds a very minor share in Fortune 500.
> >It's MS/IIS with about 57% last I saw and Netscape/IPlanet with
> >40-something% and Apache with >10% market share.
> >
>
> My cat fluffy could come up with better fantasy figures. For the
> truth you need to get with reality. Chad Meyers is lying. Here
> is the truth for you:
>
> Server February 2001 Percent Change
> -------------------------------------------
> Apache 16871744 59.99 1.24
> Microsoft-IIS 5522069 19.63 -1.76
> Netscape-Enterprise 1751123 6.23 -0.05
> WebLogic 1039605 3.70 0.06
> Zeus 801215 2.85 0.34
> Rapidsite 380217 1.35 0.00
> thttpd 367724 1.31 0.07
> tigershark 166465 0.59 0.04
> AOLserver 153296 0.55 0.09
> WebSitePro 114655 0.41 0.00
I don't see my cat fluffy ANYWHERE on this list.
Must be another Chadian red herring.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:14:14 -0800
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:40:00 GMT, Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Most Universities still teach Cobol/Mainframe as the center of their CS
> >degrees. How useful is that? At least that what my friend told me, when
> >he was looking at some Universities. Most programmers I know use C/C++.
> >BTW the local college centers around teaching C/C++ as the intro language
> >for the CS degrees, instead of Cobol.
> >
>
> This is NOT true at all. Maybe business and management departments
> and schools will still teach COBOL, BIG maybe. There is no way that
> CS department at the university level is going to teach COBOL. COBOL has
> no place in modern software engineering and hence a CS department has no
> reason to even discuss COBOL, accept as an aside perhaps.
Not TRUE!?? Tell that to the insurance companies and the U.S.
government.
There's money to be made. I agree that COBOL stinks.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:17:35 -0500
Brent R wrote:
>
> "." wrote:
> >
> > > > Install SOME kind of unix, kulkis. Wow me with tin 1.5.6 on AIX or
> > > > something.
> > >
> > > That would attract attention.
> >
> > Far better to post 300 times a day with a signature the size of Kentucky? ;P
>
> I see people post ALL the time in *nix readers (pan, GNUS, tin, Linux
> Mozilla etc.). Aaron seems to be admitting that his setup is indeed
> vulnerable.
nah.
just adding a layer of camoflauge
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java.tech,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux + PostgreSQL + Apache + JDBC + Tomcat JSP / Servlets: Ready for
prime time?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:04:43 -0500
> More info is needed. How big is your data base? How many concurrent
> accesses do you need to support? What are the skills of the maintainer?
Small to medium DB - 50-100 tables, many with a few dozen records for
lookups, some with a couple tens of thousands for primary tables, and
several with hundreds of thousands or maybe a million or two records for
detail-type records.
Concurrent accesses - light to medium use. I would suspect maybe a hundred
or so concurrent users - of those, maybe fifty would be involved in
operations that update the DB off and on.
Maintainer skills - well, that would be me - like I said, I'm fairly to
Linux/Apache/etc, but have some experience in NT/IIS/etc., both
administration and programming.
I'm trying to get an idea of what people are using to build web-based
applications, and how their tool choices work for them.
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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:23:08 +1000
> the failure of any single I/O device will NOT lock up a Unix system.
> the process which is waiting on the I/O will get booted off the CPU
> by the process scheduler as it's timeslice runs out, and, since it
> never DOES get the I/O...will never awaken to be put back on the CPU.
>
> Therefore, a failed I/O device will NOT crash a Linux kernal
> (exception...un-mirrored disk with swap space on it).
>
yes and that exception is my case.
a HT6560b controler has
2 ide channels ide 1 works through ide0 so i have 3 hd's and 1 cdrom on it
1 floppy controller.
EISA bus.
the swap is on the first hard disk.
no mirroring as i have not enough space any way.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:23:10 -0500
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:51 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dave Martel wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:33:26 -0600, WesTralia
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >My work is done here. You will no longer see or hear from Wes Tralia
> >> >again.
> >>
> >> Please take Aaron with you! <g>
> >
> >He bailed because his gambit failed, and he knows it.
> >
>
> I would say his gambit succeeded beautifully. He certainly showed
> beyond a doubt that you actually can't modify the header line
> in question. Thus proving that you actually are running your news
> through a Win98 box.
No..i asked for a better header...one that won't attract attention.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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