Linux-Advocacy Digest #45, Volume #33 Fri, 23 Mar 01 18:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) (Roberto Alsina)
Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (peter)
Re: just take 5 minutes to read this....it's great ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:38:15 -0500
WesTralia wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Chad Everett wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:32:37 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Francis Van Aeken wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> > ...and "Public <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > > Correction: Unix should be UNIX
> > > >>
> > > >> > No. Both spellings are right, as the original small caps cannot be
> > > >> > rendered in pure ASCII. "Unix" is not an acronym. Usually, "UNIX" is
> > > >> > taken to mean the trademark, and "Unix" is loosely defined to mean any
> > > >> > kind of system that reasonably qualifies as Unix-like.
> > > >>
> > > >> As early as June 1961, the ASCII standard was 7 bits. The name "UNIX"
> > > >> was coined in 1970. Nine years should have been enough to catch up
> > > >> with a standard, no?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >UNIX was all caps because every other OS at the time was written
> > > >in all caps.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Go to: http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/ and you'll see that UNIX
> > > was the name suggested by Brian Kernighan and was a "somewhat
> > > treacherous pun on 'Multics'",
> >
> > That much is common knowledge..
> >
> > > and yes, Multics was not all in caps.
> >
> >
> > Didn't know that, though.
> >
> > A very rare exception in those days.
> >
> > In fact, even today, the percentage of operating system names not in
> > all caps is rather low.
> >
>
> Really?
>
> Windows 95
> Windows 98 (your favorite)
> Windows 2000
> Windows XP
4 Variations on a single theme.
i.e. "Windows [fill_in_the_blank]"
1 Windows ____
2
> Solaris
3
> Linux
4
> BeOS
>
1 A/UX
2 HP-UX
3 IRIX
4 AIX
5 OS/X
6 CP/M
7 RSTS
8 PT/X
9 GECOS
10 DG/UX
11 G/UX
12 BSD
that's 3x as many, and I still haven't even listed any mainframe
OS's yet.
> --
> -wt
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:39:31 -0300
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> WesTralia wrote:
>>
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> >
>> > Chad Everett wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:32:37 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis
>> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > >Francis Van Aeken wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > >> > ...and "Public <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > > Correction: Unix should be UNIX
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > No. Both spellings are right, as the original small caps cannot
>> > > >> > be rendered in pure ASCII. "Unix" is not an acronym. Usually,
>> > > >> > "UNIX" is taken to mean the trademark, and "Unix" is loosely
>> > > >> > defined to mean any kind of system that reasonably qualifies as
>> > > >> > Unix-like.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> As early as June 1961, the ASCII standard was 7 bits. The name
>> > > >> "UNIX" was coined in 1970. Nine years should have been enough to
>> > > >> catch up with a standard, no?
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >UNIX was all caps because every other OS at the time was written
>> > > >in all caps.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Go to: http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/ and you'll see that
>> > > UNIX was the name suggested by Brian Kernighan and was a "somewhat
>> > > treacherous pun on 'Multics'",
>> >
>> > That much is common knowledge..
>> >
>> > > and yes, Multics was not all in
>> > > caps.
>> >
>> >
>> > Didn't know that, though.
>> >
>> > A very rare exception in those days.
>> >
>> > In fact, even today, the percentage of operating system names not in
>> > all caps is rather low.
>> >
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Windows 95
>> Windows 98 (your favorite)
>> Windows 2000
>> Windows XP
>
> 4 Variations on a single theme.
>
> i.e. "Windows [fill_in_the_blank]"
>
> 1 Windows ____
>
> 2
>> Solaris
>
> 3
>> Linux
>
> 4
>> BeOS
>>
>
> 1 A/UX
> 2 HP-UX
> 3 IRIX
> 4 AIX
> 5 OS/X
Is that Mac OS X?
> 6 CP/M
> 7 RSTS
> 8 PT/X
> 9 GECOS
> 10 DG/UX
> 11 G/UX
> 12 BSD
>
>
> that's 3x as many, and I still haven't even listed any mainframe
> OS's yet.
I really want you to do the same with the list of 53 I posted, Aaron ;-)
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 22:27:12 GMT
I've heard great things about the new Suse distro., but I was told by
someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work. At work
we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
Is there a different file structure or something different in each
distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
Thanks
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: just take 5 minutes to read this....it's great
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:44:37 -0500
rob wrote:
>
> This is really a good idea...NO KIDDING. Don't disregard, just take 5
> minutes of your time to read it, and if you don't believe me, delete it.
> This honestly works guys, the only thing you can lose is 6 dollars, and
> i've spent more than that on scratch of tickets, and not won a thing.
> This is NOT a get rich quick scheme just to take your money, because your
> not paying any one person...just read it.
How about I don't send *ANYBODY* any money, but you and all your stupid
friend each send me $6.00
>
> TURN $6.00 INTO $6,000!!! IT'S SIMPLE AND IT'S LEGAL!!!!!!!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>@ZWALLET I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it A
> > >>little while back, I was browsing through news groups just like you
> are
> > >>right
> > >>now and came across a article similar to this saying that you could
> make
> > >>thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of
> > >>$6.00!! So I thought yeah right. This must be a scam, but like most
> of
> > >>us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway it said that you send
> one
> > >>dollar to each of the six names and addresses stated in the article.
> > >>
> > >> You then place your own name and address on the bottom of the list
> at
> > >>number
> > >>>>>six and post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. (there are
> > >>>>thousands)
> > >>>>>No catch that was it. So after talking to a few people and
> thinking
> > >it
> > >>>>>over I decided to give it a try. What have I got to lose except 6
> > >>stamps
> > >>>>>and $6.00 right? Then I invested the measly six dollars. WELL
> GUESS
> > >>>>>WHAT!!! Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail!!! I
> was
> > >>>>>shocked. I thought it was going to stop but it just kept coming.
> In
> > >>my
> > >>>>>first week I made $25.00. By the end of the second week I had
> > >$900.00.
> > >>>>>In the end of the third week I made $5,000.00!!! It's still
> growing
> > >>>>right
> > >>>>>now. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just
> over
> > >>>>>$38,000.00! and it's still coming in rapidly. This is certainly
> >worth
> > >>>>>$6.00 and 6 stamps. I have spent more than that on the lottery!!
> >Let
> > >>me
> > >>>>>tell you how this works and most importantly why it works…Also make
> > >>sure
> > >>>>>that you print a copy of this article NOW so you can get the
> > >>information
> > >>>>>off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the
> > >>>>directions
> > >>>>>exactly, that you will start making more money than you possibly
> > >>thought
> > >>>>>just by doing something so easy!! SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE
> > >MESSAGE
> > >>>>>CAREFULLY (Print it out or down load it) Follow the simple
> directions
> > >>and
> > >>>>>watch the money come in! It's easy. It's legal. And your
> investment
> > >is
> > >>>>>only $6.00 (plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip off; it is
> >not
> > >>>>>indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk - it
> really
> > >>>>>works!!!!! If all of the following instructions are adhered to,
> you
> > >>will
> > >>>>>receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE: please follow these
> > >>>>>directions exactly and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60
> days.
> > >>>>>This program remains successful because of the honesty and
> integrity
> > >of
> > >>>>>the participants. Please continue its success by carefully
> adhering
> > >to
> > >>>>>the instructions. You will now become a part of the mail order
> > >>business.
> > >>>>>In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it's a
> > >>service.
> > >>>>>You are in the business of developing a mailing list. Many large
> > >>>>>corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality list. However,
> > >the
> > >>>>>money made from the mailing list is secondary to the income, which
> is
> > >>>>made
> > >>>>>from people like you and me asking to be included to that list.
> Here
> > >>are
> > >>>>>the four steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper
> > >>write
> > >>>>>the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING
> > >>>>LIST."
> > >>>>>Now get 6 us 1dollar bills and place ONE inside EACH of the six
> >pieces
> > >>of
> > >>>>>paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent
> > >>>>>thievery. Next place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal
> > >>them.
> > >>>>>MAKE SURE THERE ARE ENOUGH STAMPS ON YOUR ENVELOPES. You should
> now
> > >>have
> > >>>>>6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above
> > >phrase
> > >>>>>your name and address and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is
> > >creating
> > >>a
> > >>>>>service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate
> > >>>>>service and you are paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little
> > >>>>>skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all.
> So
> > >I
> > >>>>>checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they
> > >>>>>confirmed that it is indeed legal!!!!! Mail the six envelopes to
> the
> > >>>>>following addresses
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>#1) Cyntoria Thomas-
> > >>3605 Hickorynut St.
> > >>Jacksonville, Florida 32208
> > >>>>>
> > >>#2) A. J. Hena-
> > >>658 Pritz Avenue
> > >>Dayton, Ohio 45410
> > >>
> > >>#3) B. M. Nsubuga
> > >>4380 Main St.
> > >>Amherst, NY 14226
> > >>>>>
> > >#4) Brian Okello
> > >Morehouse College Unit 141428
> > >830 westview dr.
> > >atlanta ga. 30314
>
> > >#5)Erick Guzman
> > >421 NW 40 Ct
> > >Miami, Fl 33126
>
> > >#6)Rob Fea
> > >P.O. Box 126
> > >Clayton, OH 45315
>
> > >>>>>STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
> >the
> > >>>>>other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc…) and add YOUR name
> as
> > >>>>>number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to but try
> to
> > >>>>keep
> > >>>>>this article as original as possible. Now post your amended
> article
> > >to
> > >>>>at
> > >>>>>least 200 news groups. ( I think there are 24,000 groups) All you
> > >need
> > >>>>is
> > >>>>>200, but remember, the more you post , the more money you make!**
> > >>>>>EVERYBODY AROUND THE WORLD CAN DO THIS BUT REMEMBER TO PUT ENOUGH
> > >>STAMPS
> > >>>>>ON YOUR ENVELOPES!!!!** This is perfectly legal! If you have any
> > >>>>doubts,
> > >>>>>refer to title 18 sec. 1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws.
> Keep
> >a
> > >>>>>copy of these steps for your self and whenever you need money, you
> >can
> > >>>>use
> > >>>>>it again and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains
> > >>successful
> > >>>>>because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by
> > >>carefully
> > >>>>>adhering to the directions. Look at it this way, if you are of
> > >>>>integrity,
> > >>>>>the program will continue and the money that so many others have
> > >>received
> > >>>>>will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and
> > >>address
> > >>>>>sent to you, either on a computer or a hard copy and keep the notes
> > >>>>people
> > >>>>>sent you. This verifies that you are truly providing a service.
> > >>>>>(Remember to wrap the $1 bill in the note to prevent mail theft.)
> So
> > >>as
> > >>>>>each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six
> > >>>>members
> > >>>>>will be reimbursed for their participation as a list developer with
> > >one
> > >>>>>dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that
> > >>when
> > >>>>>your name reaches the #1 spot you will be receiving thousands of
> > >>dollars
> > >>>>>in CASH!!!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00($1 for each of the
> > >six
> > >>>>>people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and
> > >>>>you're
> > >>>>>in business!---DIRECTIONS---- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWS
> > >>>>>GROUPS--------------STEP 1: You do not need to retype this entire
> > >>letter
> > >>>>>to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of
> > >>this
> > >>>>>letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and
> >select
> > >>>>>"copy" from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into
> the
> > >>>>>computer's memory. STEP 2: open a blank notepad file and place
> your
> > >>>>>cursor at the top of the blank page. From the edit menu select
> > >>"paste."
> > >>>>>This will paste the copy of the letter into notepad so you can add
> > >your
> > >>>>>name to the list. STEP 3: Save your new notepad file as a .txt
> file.
> > >>If
> > >>>>>you want to do your postings in different settings , you'll always
> > >have
> > >>>>>this file to go back to. STEP 4: Use Netscape and Internet
> Explorer
> > >>and
> > >>>>>try searching for various news groups (on-line forums message
> boards,
> > >>>>chat
> > >>>>>sites, discussions.) Step5: Visit these message boards and post
> this
> > >>>>>article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter
> and
> > >>>>>selecting "paste" from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this
> will
> > >>be
> > >>>>>the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of
> > >>postings
> > >>>>>in a particular group, click the post message button. You're done
> > >with
> > >>>>>the first one! Congratulations…THAT'S IT! All you have to do is
> >jump
> > >>to
> > >>>>>different news groups and post away, after you get the hang of it,
> it
> > >>>>will
> > >>>>>take 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE
> NEWSGROUPS
> > >>YOU
> > >>>>>POST IN (MESSAGE BOARDS ETC) THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT
> YOU
> > >>HAVE
> > >>>>>TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200. That's it! You will begin receiving
> money
> > >>>>from
> > >>>>>around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a
> P.O.
> > >>Box
> > >>>>>due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to
> >stay
> > >>>>>anonymous, you can invent a name to use as long as the postman will
> > >>>>>deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE THE ADDRESS IS CORRECT** Let me break
> >it
> > >>>>>down, say I receive only 5 replies, so then I made $5 with my name
> at
> > >>#6
> > >>>>>on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1 made
> >the
> > >>>>>MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 people
> > >respond
> > >>>>to
> > >>>>>the original 5 people. That is another $25 for me. Now those 25
> > >>people
> > >>>>>make the MINIMUM 200 post with my name at number 4 and only 5
> replies
> > >>>>>each, I will make $125. Now, those 125 people post the MINIMUM 200
> > >>>>>postings with my name at #3 and only get 5 replies each, I will
> make
> > >an
> > >>>>>additional $626! Ok, now here's the fun part each of those 625
> >people
> > >>>>>post a MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 ant they only get 5 replies
> >that
> > >>>>>just made me $3,125!!! Those 3125 people send a MINIMUM 200
> postings
> > >>and
> > >>>>>they only get 5 replies each with my name at #1, I will receive
> > >>>>$15,625!!!
> > >>>>>With an original investment of $6!!!! AMAZING!!!! . When your
> name
> > >is
> > >>>>no
> > >>>>>longer on the list, you just take the latest postings in the news
> > >>groups
> > >>>>>and send out another $6 to names on the list putting yourself at #6
> > >and
> > >>>>>start posting again. Thousands of people are joining the internet
> > >each
> > >>>>>day and they are reading articles like these just like you are
> right
> > >>now.
> > >>>>>So this can never get played out just keep it going and you can
> make
> > >>tons
> > >>>>>of money too!!!! Please try it now and make big bucks in a few
> short
> > >>>>>weeks!!!!!!
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hey, Its Legit and Fast and beside its only six bucks!!!!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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