Linux-Advocacy Digest #149, Volume #33           Wed, 28 Mar 01 03:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: OSX Links - (Donn Miller)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Are todays computers 1000 times better than the original PCs? ("Mike")
  Re: Some OS security thoughts ("Mike")
  Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!> ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Some OS security thoughts ("Mike")

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:50:50 -0500

cHip wrote:
> 
> Being a guy who has researched this a lot I'd like to comment on a few
> things.
> 
> First of all, anyone who mentions Russian Communism, Chinese Communism,
> North Korean Communism, etc. as communism---sorry but you're wrong.
> Those are NOT communism, they are totalitarian governments. Basically
> they're dictaror governments (layman term, really authoritarian). Anyone
> who critisizes communism for anything there just doesn't get it.
> 

Ah yes, the usual "that isn't *real* communism" lie.

So...tell us, Mr Wise guy...why are there not *ANY* "real communist"
countries in existance....and why is every country which calls itself
Communist also a police state?

Accuracy counts, so be precise.


> Yeah Stalin rounded up farmer who resisted him and killed them. If you
> think that was communism, go look up the definition. Thats a cruel
> authoritarian goverment. Same with China, but you could only call that a
> dispersed authoritarian (uncertain, but I'm quite sure its a 'council'
> of rulers), still you resist the Chinese government and your in jail for
> life--or dead.
> 
> For those of you who are now wondering what communism is:
> 
> Communism is based on the ideal of a commune. What this means is that
> there is no money, (note: were talking 'pure' communism now, not one of
> its offspring like socialism), no wars, no different social status, etc.
> How? Lets try to put it this way (a little old fashioned but it gets the
> point accross) the baker makes his food but he doesn't sell it: he
> distributes it evenly throughout the community. How does he live? Well
> everyone else does the same exact thing, so everyone gets an equal
> amount of everything. Its very ideal where everyone is equal and well
> off, doing something they like to do, and helping out the community with
> jobs no one likes (trash collection, sewage treatment to name a few).
> Yes everything works on honor system (one minute..) but if it worked we
> would never have problems like poverty, overly-wealthy, etc.

All of which, due to human nature, is COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT
without a totalitarian police-state.


> 
> Now on to why it doesn't work. I should note that  I have very strict
> hobbesian beliefs (dont know what that is? look up Thomas Hobbes) The
> reason it doesn't work is that human nature prohibits it. Some people
> could not stand being at the same level as the rest, some would try to
> revolt and take leadership (there is none in communism). Many would try
> to do this and guess what would happen? Feudal Wars all over again.
> 
> Now I'm tired of writing, but I think I corrected a few people.

You're full of shit, and you know it, asshole.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:54:24 -0500
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OSX Links -

Brent R wrote:
> 
> Donn Miller wrote:
> 
> > The bad thing, IMO, is that Apple is only interested in the Open Source
> > initiative for their own benefit.
> 
> Of course their only interested in open source for their own interest
> you simpleton. They're a company and they're in this to make money, not
> to be a fscking charity to basement hackers.

Red Hat and SuSE are in this to make money also.  Red Hat is a
distributor of Open source software who is in open source industry for a
profit, and they actively contribute back to OSS by paying people to
hack the Linux kernel.


====== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ======
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
=======  Over 80,000 Newsgroups = 16 Different Servers! ======

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:53:14 -0500

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> Point taken, however, Russia could never have been called a Communist
> country as it never was (by the definition of "pure communism"), in theory,
> it should have worked, however, in practice it didn't as it failed to take
> into account human nature.  Even if we were to go a more communist society,
> most people would share their wealth and productive output with everyone,
> however, there will be people who don't do a thing and expect their share,
> even though they did no work, hence the reason there is money, as an
> incentive to get a job and work (and in theory, the Unemployment Benefit is
> meant to be a safety net, not a hammock).
> 

To understand why it is IMPOSSIBLE to get Communism to work, all you need
to do is look at an unskilled labor union.

The lazy, drunk, and other rejects benefit at the expense of the hard
working and productive.



> Yes, I have read the Communist Manifesto, and the progress was going to be
> as follows (by definition of Karl Marx)
> 
> Feudalism ----> Capitalism ----> Socialism ----> Communism
> 
> Those were the steps that were taken in the transition from Capitalism to
> Communism.    During the 1920's when Russia was being rebuilt after the
> First World War, Lenin introduced, what would be called the equivalent of
> mixed market economics.  He insisted that all major industry (electricity,
> steel, Iron) to be owned my the state, whilst small, private enterprise was
> allowed to flourish, thus, they had actually struck a balance between
> Socialism and Capitalism, aka, Capitalism with a heart.  However, Stalin
> forked it up by nationalising everything via force (and as a result output
> declined rapidly).  His agricultural reforms were a nightmare, and when
> questioned why? he blamed the Kulaks (well to do peasants) who would save
> grain so that they could sell it on the free market instead of selling it
> to the state at a lower price than the market price.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> cHip wrote:
> 
> > Being a guy who has researched this a lot I'd like to comment on a few
> > things.
> >
> > First of all, anyone who mentions Russian Communism, Chinese Communism,
> > North Korean Communism, etc. as communism---sorry but you're wrong.
> > Those are NOT communism, they are totalitarian governments. Basically
> > they're dictaror governments (layman term, really authoritarian). Anyone
> > who critisizes communism for anything there just doesn't get it.
> >
> > Yeah Stalin rounded up farmer who resisted him and killed them. If you
> > think that was communism, go look up the definition. Thats a cruel
> > authoritarian goverment. Same with China, but you could only call that a
> > dispersed authoritarian (uncertain, but I'm quite sure its a 'council'
> > of rulers), still you resist the Chinese government and your in jail for
> > life--or dead.
> >
> > For those of you who are now wondering what communism is:
> >
> > Communism is based on the ideal of a commune. What this means is that
> > there is no money, (note: were talking 'pure' communism now, not one of
> > its offspring like socialism), no wars, no different social status, etc.
> > How? Lets try to put it this way (a little old fashioned but it gets the
> > point accross) the baker makes his food but he doesn't sell it: he
> > distributes it evenly throughout the community. How does he live? Well
> > everyone else does the same exact thing, so everyone gets an equal
> > amount of everything. Its very ideal where everyone is equal and well
> > off, doing something they like to do, and helping out the community with
> > jobs no one likes (trash collection, sewage treatment to name a few).
> > Yes everything works on honor system (one minute..) but if it worked we
> > would never have problems like poverty, overly-wealthy, etc.
> >
> > Now on to why it doesn't work. I should note that  I have very strict
> > hobbesian beliefs (dont know what that is? look up Thomas Hobbes) The
> > reason it doesn't work is that human nature prohibits it. Some people
> > could not stand being at the same level as the rest, some would try to
> > revolt and take leadership (there is none in communism). Many would try
> > to do this and guess what would happen? Feudal Wars all over again.
> >
> > Now I'm tired of writing, but I think I corrected a few people.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are todays computers 1000 times better than the original PCs?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:55:21 GMT


"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Andy Walker wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
> > <98b39h$8r9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >>We're going to hit a wall on IC miniaturization pretty soon...and it
has
> > >>NOTHING to do with power dissipation.  Basically, it's getting to the
> > >>physical limit with regard to trace size.
> > >
> > >I can recall exactly the same being said ten years ago. *Exactly* the
same.
> > >
>
> Are you saying that atoms are getting smaller?
>
> 10 years ago, conductive paths were 1000 atoms across.
> Now, they are about 100 atoms across.
>
> That means we have at best, 2 orders of magnitude of miniaturization left.
>
> 1-atom-width conductors *might* be possible, at great expense, and
> high risk of failure (to various reasons: shock, thermal expansion,
> atomic migration, etc.)
>
> 1/4-atom-width conducturs is silly to even contemplate.

The order of magnitude improvement has occurred over around 15 years, not
10, but even with that, you're talking about a limit that's 20 to 30 years
away. Needless to say, this isn't what anyone loses sleep over. There are
other dimensions, like gate oxide thickness, that are well over an order of
magnitude smaller than metal line width. And there are plenty of real
problems that will rear their heads long before metal width does.

In fact, metal is one of the things that people feel pretty good about right
now. Copper processes are coming on line, providing reduced capacitance (no,
not resistance), and low-k dielectrics, which will reduce capacitance
further, are in the wings. Chemical-mechanical polishing has planarized the
oxide surface to the point that high layers of metal can retain their small
dimensions.

-- Mike --




------------------------------

From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some OS security thoughts
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:58:11 GMT


"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 06:23:36 GMT, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> >While my Unix mail prevents me from running scripts that are sent to me,
the
> >way it achieves this is just to make things difficult. I'd gladly switch
to
> >the first email program that let me run a script that's sent to me just
by
> >clicking on it. A warning message before executing is okay, but saving it
to
> >a file and running chmod before I can do anything with it isn't.
>
> You can do that with any unix mailer that supports mimetypes.
> You just need to grossly abuse metamail (or kde's mime-types, if you want
> to do it with kmail).
>
> The safe environment would be just slightly trickier, involving an extra
account
> and the use of "su"

So, the question becomes, "Why make it tricky? Why not make that the way it
works?"

-- Mike --




------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP.
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:03:33 -0500

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> That doesn't include the tragic devestation corporate welfare has done to the 
>environment
> and the community, as much needed resources are rediverted to lining the pockets of
> Multi-nationals and greedy politians, aka, large companys living off the hard work 
>of the
> average Joe and Jane.

Very true.  And as usual, the corporate welfare came into law under the auspices
of the party which POSES as "defenders of the under-privileged against the
evil corporations"

In the United States, it's the Democrat party which has implemented the
vast majority of corporate welfare.



> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > >
> > > The question at hand is why does your government give out subsidies, and price
> > > garentee schemes on unsustainable, inefficient agricultural sector output.  
>Also, that
> > > doesn't include the non-tariff barriers the US has on imports, such as quota's, 
>slow
> > > import documentation processing etc etc  The reason why I bring up this question 
>is
> > > that New Zealand is mainly and agricultural based economy (as New Zealand has the
> > > largest Dairy Co-Op in the world).  I also must admitt that the US is not the 
>only one
> > > guilty of this hanis crime of protecting inefficient industries, Europe is 
>another
> > > example of over subsidise, inefficient famers getting a hand out.
> > >
> >
> > Damn straigth.
> >
> > Reminds me of the PDQ Bach song..
> >
> > "The farmer on the Dole
> >  The farmer on the Dole
> >  Hi ho the merry-o
> >  The farmer on the Dole"
> >
> > You can be assured that this did NOT go over very well at a University with
> > such a large agriculture school and vet school like Purdue.
> >
> > > Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > > chrisv wrote:
> > >
> > > > Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Very easy accomplised with an ULTRA-ULTRA-ULTRA protected economy, example of 
>this
> > > >
> > > > What a total moron!  What a bufoon!  What an idiot!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, but "ULTRA-ULTRA-ULTRA protected" to describe what's obviously
> > > > one of the most open markets in the world?  What a stupid sh*t!
> > > >
> > > > By the way, one stupid sheep example does not equal an entire market.
> > > > Moron.
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:59:15 -0500

Barry Manilow wrote:
> 
> Craig Kelley wrote:
> >
> > Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have freedom to make as much money as I know how.
> > >
> > > The problem with this freedom is that this right ends up killing a lot
> > > of hard-working, decent human beings.  That is why capitalism is a
> > > murdering system.  It kills millions of people every year in the
> > > world.
> >
> > As opposed to *what*, exactly.
> >
> > Cuba, North Korea and China are not paragons of virtue.
> 
> China is practically a capitalist country right now.
> 

Yes, they are beginning to see the light.

However, the brutal ways of their Communist Revolution and
subsequent Cultural Revolution are still with them.


> I would venture to say that the Cuban system kills few.  Certainly, in
> the rest of Latin America, capitalism is a killing machine.  At least

No...that would be socialism.

Remember, ASSHOLE, Fascism and Communism are ideological cousins...

Fascism is right-wing SOCIALISM, and Communism is left-wing SOCIALISM.

The only difference between fascism and communism is who gets lined
up first before the firing squads.


> Cuba has dedicated itself to the principle that, within its means, it
> will try not to kill any human beings due to lack of food, shelter,
> medical care, poor sanitation, etc.

Whoop-de-do.

I can make pronouncements till I'm blue in the face about how I am dedicated
to providing food, shelter, medical care, and sanitation to all the people
I'm locking up as prison labor in a gulag.


> 
> Will the US even commit to this?  No.  Actually, lack of proper
> medical care murders 250,000 Americans every year, in one of the
> world's richest countries!  Most of these are good, hard-working
> folks.  Why did they have to die?  So a relative few could make some
> extra bucks.  How could anyone defend such a system?

Everybody here has a *CHOICE* to follow the path they want.

If someone CHOOSES to work in a coal mine, because they value
the high pay for their meager skills, then so be it...it's THEIR CHOICE.


> 
> I suppose the idea would be to come up with an economic system that
> did not systematically kill so many human beings.  Capitalism can be
> reformed to the point where hardly kills at all (well-regulated
> capitalism, probably the best system so far) but capitalists never
> seem to want to do this because by saving lives, they would end up
> making less money.  Any system with that kind of ideology seems pretty
> immoral to me.
> --
> Bob
> Being flamed?  Don't know why?  Take the Flame Questionnaire(TM)
> today!
> Why do you think you are being flamed?
> [ ] You continued a long, stupid thread
> [ ] You started an off-topic thread
> [ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
> [ ] People don't like your tone of voice
> [ ] Other (describe)
> [ ] None of the above


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:00:16 -0500

"Paul 'Z' EwandeŽ" wrote:
> 
> "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:99pde7$gpn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> <SNIP> A lot of stuff </SNIP>
> 
> > In short, Chad is probaby talking about NT, the others are talking about
> > Win9x.  And MS claim Linux is fragmented !!
> 
> Actually, it's even simpler than that: some floppy disk drives apparently
> work better than others. I've seen boxes choke on floppies while others had
> absolutely no trouble whatsoever dealing with them, the OS not withstanding.
> I'm only talking MS OSes here, mind you.
> 
> I've just formatted with the Windows Explorer a floppy disk, to make matter
> worse I zipped 200Mb worth of files using Windows Commander while listening
> to an *.mp3 at the same time. The Winamp didn't skip, though dragging
> windows around left nice after images. :)
> 
> All this under Win98SE. Not too shabby for a DOS based piece of crap. BTW,
> i'm not the only one who thinks that Win9x multitasking abilities aren't
> that far behind WinNT.

This story lacks the ring of truth.



> 
> From http://www.arstechnica.com/reviews/2q99/g3-350/g3-350-5.html
> 
> "I'm willing to wager that MacOS 8.6 will improve this score, though I'm not
> certain it will raise it to the level of NT (which, by the way, is not that
> much more efficient than Windows 9x in terms of multitasking, although it's
> certainly more stable.)".
> 
> Or countless benchmark tests which show NT something like 10 to 30% faster.
> 
> <SNIP> Some stuff </SNIP>
> 
> Paul 'Z' Ewande who'll probably get flamed for this. :)


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some OS security thoughts
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:08:42 GMT

"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 06:23:36 GMT, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'd gladly switch to the first email program that let me run a script
> > that's sent to me just by clicking on it.
>
> You are the reason that Unix mailers don't do that by default.  You
> "usually" know who sent the script and what it is supposed to do?  What
> about when you don't?  Oh, yeah, that's when it does "rm -rf" in your
> home directory.
>
> You do realize the risks you are taking, right?

Yup, I sure do, and they're pretty low. I'm not talking about running the
latest script from some mass mailer, I'm talking about getting a script from
a coworker that I want to run. I can't fathom any rational reason why I
should have to do anything more than click on it.

-- Mike --




------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy.

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

End of Linux-Advocacy Digest
******************************

Reply via email to