Linux-Advocacy Digest #193, Volume #33 Fri, 30 Mar 01 09:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> ("Chad Myers")
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is (Austin Ziegler)
Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Fun With Parallel Ports. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Earn some money with Linux (Richard Thrippleton)
Re: NO operating system is secure... (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux needs a standard, user proof distro (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better (phil
hunt)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better (phil
hunt)
Re: Earn some money with Linux ("Benjamin Lvovsky")
Re: Linus for a 386???? (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Communism ("Roger Perkins")
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:11:56 GMT
"Paul 'Z' EwandeŽ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9a1h34$7kt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Barry Manilow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "T. Mx Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > NT is
> > > certainly faster, and better able to handle I/O and multi-tasking.
> >
> > I believe it has been shown over and over that NT is about 20% slower
> > than Win 98, which was 20% slower to Win95. WinME has been shown to
> > be 10% slower than Win98. Win2K is the slowest of all. A friend has
> > it on a 700 MHZ and it is so slow it is depressing. I just got thru
> > using NT on a 600 MHZ with 128 MB and it was quite slow. Like a
> > lumbering beast.
>
> Well, all I can say it's that at the hardware enthusiasts sites, they sure
> don't replicate those figures. Given enough RAM, with a tweaked for
> performance box and depending on the task at hand 95/98/Me are more or less
> equals and generally inferior to NT/2k which are more or less equals.
>
> 9x/Me < NT/2K
>
> http://www.anandtech.com
> http://www.tomshardware.com
> http://www.aceshardware.com
>
> Ad nauseam.
For many tasks, given an ample amount of RAM, Win2K is generally faster.
There are specific circumstances (SQL Server 6.5 on Windows NT 4.0 comes
to mind) where an application will perform better on NT 4.0 than on
Win2K.
Likewise, some games seem to perform better on WinME, than on Win2K,
but some are vice versa (I think the link are the video drivers, not
the game itself in most cases).
-c
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
From: Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:27:55 -0500
On 30 Mar 2001, Nick Condon wrote:
> Austin Ziegler wrote:
>>> You think that people are mainly motivated by money. Not even the
>>> economists believe that anymore. You think that without royalty
>>> payments, people won't write software. The four most critical pieces
>>> of infrastructure that make the Internet work are The four most
>>> critical pieces of infrastructure that make the Internet work are BIND
>>> [Berkeley Internet Name Daemon], Perl, Sendmail, and Apache. Everyone
>>> of them is free software.
>> And not one of these are "end-user" software. Without the client
>> software, there's nothing there.
> Thank you, you make my point for me. The client software doesn't make any
> royalties either.
And you ignore the points that you can't refute -- but I didn't make
your point for you. There *is* client software that does make royalties
for the copyright holder -- Poco, The Bat, Outlook, etc. Based on the
number of people who use such software, I'd suggest that you haven't a
clue.
You're also making the foolish comparison between royalties for the
programmers and royalties for the copyright owner. Most programmers
assign copyright to their employer as part of the employment contract.
The copyright holder DOES then have the opportunity -- and sometimes
takes it -- to gain royalties on the item which has been copyrighted.
Until you can properly distinguish between the two situations, your
analysis has to be considered useless.
-f
--
austin ziegler * Ni bhionn an rath ach mar a mbionn an smacht
Toronto.ON.ca * (There is no Luck without Discipline)
=================* I speak for myself alone
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:14:13 -0500
Terry Porter wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:48:15 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Terry Porter wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:08:16 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> http://www.geda.seul.org
> >>
> >
> >Thanks...I've been looking for EXACTLY this kind of thing for some time.
> >
> Welcome, btw, if you also use pcb
> http://bach.ece.jhu.edu/~haceaton/pcb/
>
> to layout your schematics, you can import a netlist from gEDA into pcb
> ,then layout your tracks following the cool rubber bands the netlist provides.
>
> I have found these two apps work perfectly together, they blow away Windows
> apps for the same purpose I've yet seen.
>
You know of any good tools digital logic circuit simulators?
Preferably with a good library of 7400-series gates....
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
>
> Terry
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Fun With Parallel Ports.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:18:18 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> I'm currently building a light show machine to hook to a parallel port. The
> idea is the ol' cable/transistors/relays type device to be controlled by
> poking a byte into the port's memory address. (using C, of course!)
>
> I have an old add-a-parallel-port card which I pulled out. I put it in the
> computer to use it as my light show card, as it can add two parallel ports.
> (imagine 16 relays chattering like mad!)
>
> Now, for the fun part. The lame BIOS sets the card as LPT1 and the original as
> LPT2. That last port is disabled. I tried setting it in the BIOS to make the
> original LPT1and have the ISA card with the parallel ports (the "light show
> card") as LPT2.
>
> I would like the computer's original parallel port be LPT1 so the light show
> relays can be attached to an ISA card instead of the mainboard in case a
> disaster happens.
Just use some op-amps to isolate the parallel port from the relays.
>
> An alternative is to set the printer driver to use the computer's original
> port instead of the ISA card port, leaving it open to mess with. Which file
> would I have to edit so as to switch the printer to the LPT2 port?
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Thrippleton)
Subject: Re: Earn some money with Linux
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:24:07 +0000
In article <I5_w6.43594$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Benjamin Lvovsky wrote:
>Last 15 years I was doing mostly Microsoft programming. DOS, Windows, NT,
>from low level device drivers to communications and database programming.
>Now I see Linux is much better, stayable. Except one thing! How can you earn
>some money with Linux?! It's too FREE!;) I have a smal (very;)) company. I'd
>like to completely move into Linux. But I have no a clue how programming for
>Linux can bring some profit. Does anyone know? I think it's the major
>problem for Linux.
Err... how about writing software for Linux and selling it to
people? Or is that too obvious? The OS may be free, but the software doesn't
have to be.
Just a tip for when you do start producing commercial Linux
software; compile on as many different platforms as you can. The nature of
the Linux APIs is such that in many cases getting code to compile on
different CPUs doesn't require that much extra effort, certainly not
compared to the benefits of a greater user base.
Richard
------------------------------
From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NO operating system is secure...
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:37:23 GMT
Brent R wrote:
>
> when you have dumb users:
>
> http://www.msnbc.com/news/550850.asp
>
> Also anyone else think it's kind of weird how MSNBC will criticize
> Microsoft's security and still use Active Server?
>
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
They run Active Server and get the story wrong. Is there a connection?
"Relative slow spreading" means that under Linux it can spread only with
the cooperation of both the sender and receiver. The chances of finding
two stupid people is fairly good, but less than finding two people on
windows systems running Outlook.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:24:24 -0500
Jarno Nurminen wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > Ah yes, anybody who doesn't support Communism is a "nazi"
>
> How would you feel if majority of US citizens would select communism as
> their new ideology? If the answer is "kill them all" then one could call
> you a nazi.
This is why democracy is *ILLEGAL* at the state and federal level
in the United States.
If 6 wolves and 2 sheep take a vote on what to have for dinner,
and the 6 wolves all vote 'eat the sheep', are the sheep obliged
to let themselves be devoured?
a) yes
B) NO
Do the sheep have the right to fight back, up to and including
killing the wolves?
a) no
B) YES
> Modern society, at least in here, in build on the foundation
> of everyone having their own oppinion heard. If you someone doesen't
> like what their neighbour is thinking, it's fine, but judging people
> just because of what they think is something I would call nazism. Of
> course, this definiton of "nazism" is not so far away of the way USSR
> worked...
Some "opinions", no matter how popular, are *ILLEGAL* to put into
practice.
So says the United States Constitution.
Most of the Communist-inspired laws in this country are, quite
frankly, un-Constitutional...for example, Social Security, and
income taxes (never properly ratified...therefore, not ACTUALLY
amended to the constitution).
>
> - Jarno
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:27:15 -0500
Jarno Nurminen wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > Ah yes, anybody who doesn't support Communism is a "nazi"
>
> How would you feel if majority of US citizens would select communism as
> their new ideology? If the answer is "kill them all" then one could call
> you a nazi. Modern society, at least in here, in build on the foundation
> of everyone having their own oppinion heard. If you someone doesen't
> like what their neighbour is thinking, it's fine, but judging people
> just because of what they think is something I would call nazism. Of
> course, this definiton of "nazism" is not so far away of the way USSR
> worked...
Your definition of nazism is extremely sloppy.
Nazism is a brand of fascism. Fascism is a form of SOCIALISM.
(what part of National SOCIALIST Party do you not understand?).
Are you saying that because I disagree with the Communists, that
I'm some sort of socialist...
Keep in mind, that my major objection to Communism IS THAT IT IS A
FORM OF SOCIALISM.
I detest NAzism as strongly as I detest Communism because I HATE
SOCIALISM IN ALL FORMS...because Socialism is merely a polite word
for government-run slavery.
>
> - Jarno
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux needs a standard, user proof distro
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:54:35 GMT
Warren Bell wrote:
>
> With all the stuff I'm hearing about Windows XP and the WPA, that will
> require you to have MS activate your PC after makeing any hardware
> changes, makes me wish there was somthing out there to compete with
> Windows. I mean really compete.
>
> Linux is a great OS and is getting better all the time, but the average
> computer user won't want to use it. What I think Linux needs is a
> light, user freindly version that anyone can use. Somthing that's
> stripped of most of the server functions and is made for a single or
> multi user home system. Somthing that even the untechnical user can use
> without too many problems. Here are some things that I think would be
> needed to make this work:
>
> - A standard GUI that all Linux distros could use.
> - A GUI that's feels lighter and faster.
> - All the most used admin (root) functions available from point and
> click.
> - All makers of the lighter distro to follow standards so all the
> distros are similar.
> - Of course, more programs that people need for everyday use.
>
> I'd like to see Linux come out with somthing that would really compete
> with windows and give people who arn't tech savvy a choice. Any
> thoughts on this? Any distros that are trying to move twards an OS like
> this?
I think something like a Linux Foundation to package a reference
distribution would be a good idea. The reference distribution would be a
kernel, minimum utility set, libraries, and a basic GUI, and published
language design/interface. All Linux distributions would have this as a
part of their distribution. Also the Foundation could publish a number
of experimental versions. Vendors could add on whatever extras they
want, such as additional GUIs or office applications.
This only differs from the way things are now done in that it is more
formal and Linux would get to spend more time with his kids. Making a
formal version release would help prevent forking. But the Foundation
has to be more responsive than existing standards organizations. Waiting
5 years for a new standard just isn't good enough here.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:31:13 +0100
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:52:57 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> You think that without royalty payments, people won't write software. The
>> four most critical pieces of infrastructure that make the Internet work
>are
>> BIND [Berkeley Internet Name Daemon], Perl, Sendmail, and Apache. Everyone
>> of them is free software.
>
>First: All of them are free software.
>
>I'm not saying that they aren't free software, I'm saying that they are not
>part of the infrastructure, DNS, SMTP & HTTP are.
The main programs that implement these protocols *aren't* part of
the infrastructure? What rubbish.
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:31:56 +0100
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:51:27 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As Hassan Schroeder, Sun's first webmaster, remarked: Perl is
>> the
>> duct tape of the Internet."
>>
>> http://perl.oreilly.com/news/importance_0498.html
>
>What I've noticed about Perl is that it is seems extremely hard to write
>readable code.
I prefer Python myself.
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
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From: "Benjamin Lvovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Earn some money with Linux
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:02:46 GMT
Do you mean I can I sell compiled with say G++ executables without providing
the source code? I thought GPL and other licences do not allow that.
"Richard Thrippleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <I5_w6.43594$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Benjamin Lvovsky wrote:
> >Last 15 years I was doing mostly Microsoft programming. DOS, Windows, NT,
> >from low level device drivers to communications and database programming.
> >Now I see Linux is much better, stayable. Except one thing! How can you
earn
> >some money with Linux?! It's too FREE!;) I have a smal (very;)) company.
I'd
> >like to completely move into Linux. But I have no a clue how programming
for
> >Linux can bring some profit. Does anyone know? I think it's the major
> >problem for Linux.
> Err... how about writing software for Linux and selling it to
> people? Or is that too obvious? The OS may be free, but the software
doesn't
> have to be.
> Just a tip for when you do start producing commercial Linux
> software; compile on as many different platforms as you can. The nature of
> the Linux APIs is such that in many cases getting code to compile on
> different CPUs doesn't require that much extra effort, certainly not
> compared to the benefits of a greater user base.
>
> Richard
------------------------------
From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linus for a 386????
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:08:06 GMT
BoogerT wrote:
>
> I have a 386 with a 41 meg harddrive and 8 megs of RAM. What would be a good
> linux distro for this machine which would allow me to access the Internet,
> too? If there is one, where would I get it and do documents come with it?
> Thanks in advance,
Three options :
Get an older version of slackware or such at a used book store.
Get an embedded version. These are designed for use on very small
embedded systems, but will work well on older slow systems. I'm
currently using one from Blue Cat <http://www.linuxworks.com> that can
target systems with as little as 4meg HD and 4meg RAM
Build a kernel from any current version with your machine as target.
Leave out features you don't need. For example, you probably won't need
more than one FS type and might drop all but one GUI or go to a command
line.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
------------------------------
From: "Roger Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:14:19 -0800
Oh, Jarno, he really isn't a nazi. He's just ignorant and stupid. He
couldn't tell a communist from a cappuccino and most of the adults here know
that. My guess is he's a 15-year old trying out his intellect for the first
time. And not too successfully. Don't judge us by this kid. He really
isn't a contender here.
Roger
AIRBORNE!
"Jarno Nurminen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > Ah yes, anybody who doesn't support Communism is a "nazi"
>
> How would you feel if majority of US citizens would select communism as
> their new ideology? If the answer is "kill them all" then one could call
> you a nazi. Modern society, at least in here, in build on the foundation
> of everyone having their own oppinion heard. If you someone doesen't
> like what their neighbour is thinking, it's fine, but judging people
> just because of what they think is something I would call nazism. Of
> course, this definiton of "nazism" is not so far away of the way USSR
> worked...
>
> - Jarno
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