Linux-Advocacy Digest #238, Volume #33           Sat, 31 Mar 01 22:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Communism (GreyCloud)
  Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!> (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!> (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Communism  (Mathew)
  Re: Formatting a floppy (Barry Manilow)
  Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!> (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!> (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Communism (Barry Manilow)
  Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (LShaping)

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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,misc.survivalism
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:21:14 -0800

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001
> >Roger Perkins wrote:
> >>
> >> Again you illustrate both your stupidity and your ignorance.  Ignoring your
> >> childish use of caps, show me that law that makes democracy illegal?  I
> >
> >Let's see...Roger swore to uphold and defend the Constitution from all
> >enemies, foreign and domestic...and even claims to teach at a college,
> >and the old fuckhead doesn't even know what the Constitution says.
> >
> >Care to cite ANY section or sections of the US Constitution which
> >supposedly establish the US as a "democracy" ???
>    [...]
> >Note that there is NO provision for the people to directly vote on
> >anything.  Therefore, the US Federal government is *NOT* a democracy.
> 
> What about the one where we elect representatives?  Since every citizen
> has a right to vote in these elections, the US Federal government is a
> democracy.  A democratic republic, in fact.
> 
>    [...]
> >See above.  Any STATE government which attempts to practice "Democracy"
> >will be struck down.
> 
> In which state does a citizen not have a vote?  Besides Florida, I mean.
> 
> >Case in Point: Colorado recently passed a law regarding homosexual rights
> >by "popular referendum".  It was struck down the US Supreme Court on
> >the basis of Article IV, Section 4--that the law was (supposedly) passed
> >using 'democratic' methods (which are illegal) instead of the Constitutionally
> >mandated republican procedure of getting the law passed in the LEGISLATURE.
> >
> >Any State or Federal "law" which is not passed by the legislature is,
> >in fact, not a law.
> 
> Nor is any state or federal law which *IS* passed by the legislature,
> but then later, as in this case, struck down by the courts.
> 
> And, yes, referendums are proof that the US is a democracy.
> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

Not all states allow referendums.  Right now, in Washington State, they
are arguing that the people who start refs. are causing budgetary
problems and want to legislate the referendum out of the state
consitution.  Already we've had two big refs. that passed were
challenged in court and thrown out.  So much for the will of the people.

-- 
V

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:37:43 GMT

Said Paul 'Z' Ewande® in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 1 Apr 2001 
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
><SNIP> A whole lot of stuff </SNIP>
>
>> >Sure does. If you expect to throw blanket statement and get away with you
>> >are either deluded, or worse beneath the other posters worth.
>> >
>> ><MAX> Because I said so ! </MAX>
>>
>> Apparently, you must recognize how weak your argument is.
>
>I do ? Reading minds again ?

No, that would be guessing, based on your comments.  Doh!

><SNIP> Some of the same </SNIP>
>
>> >I like it how you are able to jump from a rhetorical to an absolute sense
>> >when it suits your "debating" needs. How do you figure the difference in
>the
>> >post ? Do you read the mind of the poster ? I ask for entertainement
>> >purposes only.
>>
>> I presume that the author's intent was to communicate a rational
>> thought.  The rest is easy.
>
>When people throw around blanket statements, you presume that their
>intention is to communicate rational thought ?

I always presume anyone's intention when they communicate is to
communicate, and that all thoughts are rational thoughts.  Not
necessarily reasonable, but they have to be rational, or they aren't
'thoughts', eh?

   [...]
>> >I believe that those people are imagining things. After all Linux is not
>> >capable of sometimes not working, Max said so.
>>
>> I believe you are imagining things, and these people have not yet
>
>Are you for real ? :)

Yup; believe it or not, I'm as real as you can get.

>> discovered what entirely deterministic and predictable behavior results
>> in whatever problem they are having.
>
>It becomes funnier by the minute. You really believe what you wrote ?

"Believe" as in "take in on faith"?  Of course not.  Believe as in "can
see no other rational nor reasonable alternative"?  Obviously so.

>Linux
>is the überOS which can never fail ? Why are some people reading the source
>code and issue patches to fix bugs, that don't exits according to you ? For
>the hell of it ?

You actually think I meant to communicate that *only* Linux works
deterministically?  Hell, no!  *Any* piece of software, save proprietary
crapware, is equally deterministic.

>> In theory, it is similarly correct to consider Windows deterministic and
>> predictable, because it cannot work counter to the laws of physics.
>> Unfortunately, it is proprietary, and *very* badly designed (and, yes,
>> we presume that because of the results we see, which include [but are
>> not categorically identical to] the fault being examined), and so in
>> practice, this is not the case.
>
>Heh. If you say so, it then must be true.

And that's the best refutation you can give?  Then I guess it must be
true, yea.

   [...]
>> When on when will I find someone on Usenet smart enough to understand
>> Mr. Franklin's words?
>
>Please, share what you know. What do they mean ? [...]

>> When on when will I find someone on Usenet smart enough to understand
>> Mr. Franklin's words?


-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:38:09 GMT

Said Roger in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:47:01 -0600; 
>On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:28:30 +0200, someone claiming to be Paul 'Z'
>Ewande wrote:
>
>>Sure does. If you expect to throw blanket statement and get away with you
>>are either deluded, or worse beneath the other posters worth.
>>
>><MAX> Because I said so ! </MAX>
>
>PMFJI, but that's:
>
><Max> Because I Said So! </Max>
>
>Thank you for your time.  Hope that helps.

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha.  You make me blush.

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism 
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:37:39 +1000



On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:

> Brian Turner wrote:
> > 
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Barry Manilow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Craig Kelley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > China is practically a capitalist country right now.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, they are beginning to see the light.
> > >
> > > However, the brutal ways of their Communist Revolution and
> > > subsequent Cultural Revolution are still with them.
> > 
> > Another "way still with them" is that Mao is still a hero to most Chinese.
> > A 'National Review' reporter was recently shocked and apalled by this, he
> > couldn't explain this bizarre situation.  It couldn't possibly be that he
> > had his facts wrong...it had to be that they are brainwashed idiots or
> > something.
> 
> Actually, brainwashing is much easier to accomplish than you
> might think.
> 
> 
> 
> Go to Russia and you see the same thing with Lenin.   Statues of
> Lenin are still quite easy to find.  And he's still spoken of as
> a hero.   As if delivering the peasants from their erstwhile
> freedom back into his own slavery cum personality cult was some
> sort of heroic deed on his part.

> 
> I think the footage of "statue dismantlings" were for the consumption
> of Western policy makers and so on.

I know,the U.S. is putting statues of Reagan everywhere,as well as naming 
airports after him.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > > I would venture to say that the Cuban system kills few.  Certainly, in
> > > > the rest of Latin America, capitalism is a killing machine.  At least
> > >
> > > No...that would be socialism.
> > 
> > Who killed the 100,000 Guatemalans (1980-92), the 60,000 El Salvadorans
> > (1981-94), 30,000 Nicaraguans (1977-79)?  Commies?  No, sorry, it was US
> > puppet military dictators.
> > 
> > > I can make pronouncements till I'm blue in the face about how I am
> > dedicated
> > > to providing food, shelter, medical care, and sanitation to all the people
> > > I'm locking up as prison labor in a [Cuban] gulag.
> > 
> > yeah, all 200 of them.  MAJOR gulag huh?
> 
> That's 200 too many.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Re: your claim that communism cannot exist without totalitarian states,
> > please see Israel in the first 30 years or so after their founding
> > (kibbutzim, moshavim, urban co-ops).  Also read Orwell's 'Homage to
> > Catalonia' or any thing else about the Spanish anarcho-syndicalists
> > pre-Franco.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
>  
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
> 
> 

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From: Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Formatting a floppy
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:40:58 -0800

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> Since when has a Penguinista been known NOT to speak
> from their arse?
> 
Hey dork, I am not a Penguinista.  I use Windows 98 and OS/2 Warp 4,
mostly Windows.  I have never used Linux in my life.
-- 
Bob
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:47:43 GMT

Said Roger in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:01:57 -0600; 
>On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:39:55 GMT, someone claiming to be T. Max Devlin
>wrote:
>
>>Said Roger in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:53:42 -0600; 
>
>>>On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:40:13 GMT, someone claiming to be T. Max Devlin
>>>wrote:
>
>>>>Said Roger in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:52:26 -0600; 
>
>>>>>On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:36:11 GMT, someone claiming to be T. Max Devlin
>>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>>And made assumptions about the variables that are entirely unsupported,
>>>>>>and in fact ridiculous, no doubt.  Like my old buddy Roger, who had to
>>>>>>replace his video *hardware* to get *IE* to work, and acted as if it was
>>>>>>a hardware failure.
>
>>>>>1.  Not now, nor never was your buddy
>>>>>
>>>>>2.  Never made such a claim.
>
>>>>Yup, all happened, just like I said.  We even reprised the discussion a
>>>>couple times over the last year or so.  You posted the whole story
>>>>yourself, to illustrate why Windows failures can be blamed on
>>>>"hardware".  You got IE5, and installed it, and your computer crashed,
>>>>so you got a new video card, and that "fixed" the "problem".
>
>>>Nope.  Never happened.  You're confused again -- perhaps it was your
>>>imaginary friend that you had such an exchange with?
>
>>You're my imaginary friend, Roger.  Actually, it does turn out that it
>>was JS/PL.
>
>1.  I am not imaginary.

Neither is he.  Your identity, however, is just as imaginary as his is.

>2.  So this is an admission that your were (c'mon Max -- you can say
>it.  Begins WR and ends ONG?)

Oh, totally and absolutely wrong.  It was only your delusion that I have
any problem at all admitting when I was wrong, Roger; I've told you
that, what, a thousand times before?  You would never believe me, of
course, because you are usually the one who is wrong.

>3.  Since this is not the first time I have corrected you on this
>topic, you knew or should have known that it was incorrect.  You stand
>convicted out of your own mouth once again of lying.

Like I actually care whether it was you or some other anonymous troller?
Ha!

>>>>>Of course, what can you expect from a person with so much Internet
>>>>>experience that he once berated another poster for using his
>>>>>postmaster's IP address.  Said address being 127.0.01.
>
>>>>No, that's 127.0.0.1, and it is not "his postmaster's IP address".
>
>>>That was rather my point -- you made the claim that it was your PM's
>>>IP, and that claim formed the basis for your little rant vs. that
>>>poster.
>
>>Look, I really don't see any need to explain it to you again, its
>>obvious you're not ever going to be smart enough to understand it.  Go
>>read a book on TCP/IP, maybe you'll get lucky.
>
>What's to explain (which you never did -- you simply did not
>acknowledge my "Could someone please explain the significance of
>127.0.0.1 to Max" comment?)  If you feel that there are circumstances
>which make it less than a complete bonehead mistake to have so ranted,
>feel free to present them.
>
>I'm not holding my breath.

I told you; pick up a book on IP.  Your ignorance is not my problem.

   [...]
>>>So perhaps you can list these "vast majority" which used MS-BASIC as
>>>the sole OS (or even as a standard feature) along with sales figures
>>>to show that they comprise such a majority.  Or you can admit that
>>>your rhetoric was overblown once again and you got called on it.
>
>>Who said it needs to be a "vast majority"?  
>
>Umm.  You did:  "The vast majority of all microcomputers developed in
>the early 80s used Microsoft's ROM BASIC"

The vast majority of models, not the necessarily the vast majority of
computers.  Note your category error.

>>Who said it had to be the sole OS?  
>
>So, it is your contention that MS-BASIC was a monopoly in spite of
>plenty of competition and in spite of not being the most prevalent OS.
>Do tell...

I did, yes.  Now, you may feel free to attempt to refute it, though I
doubt you can, since you are (I know from experience) rather ignorant of
what "a monopoly" is.

>>You haven't even looked into it, have you?  You certainly
>>don't have any facts to dispute the issue, or I assumed you'd have
>>posted them.  
>
>I'm not the one that asserted.  The burden of proof is on you.

No burden, no.  I asserted; the support was coincident with the
assertion, regardless of how weak you may think it was.  But then again,
you haven't refuted it at all, so I guess it wasn't very weak, eh?

>>So, other than pointing out your *complete inability* to
>>refute my statement (which is both sufficient and necessary to account
>>for observable facts), you're just pissing in the wind, aren't you,
>>Roger?
>
>TAOILHTN.
>
>Are you * sure * you're not Joe Bellinger or vice versa?
>
>IOW -- what are * your * facts supporting your claim that MS had a
>monopoly on OSes before the IBM PC?

The fact that the vast majority of consumer microcomputers in the early
1980s used MS-BASIC.  I thought I said that already.  Feel free to
provide something more convincing to the contrary, if you can.  It
shouldn't be too hard, it's not like my claim is very convincing.
Still, simply denying that it is so is less convincing, despite the
discomfort that this causes you.

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software  <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:50:51 GMT

Said Paul 'Z' Ewande® in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 1 Apr 2001
03:40:40 +0200; 
>
>"Roger" <roger@.> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
><SNIP> A lot of stuff </SNIP>
>
>> >You haven't even looked into it, have you?  You certainly
>> >don't have any facts to dispute the issue, or I assumed you'd have
>> >posted them.
>>
>> I'm not the one that asserted.  The burden of proof is on you.
>
>Burden of proof ? Burden of proof !? Good one ! Max doesn't feel no stinking
>burden of proof. It's so because he said so. :) The burden of proof is right
>in the shoulders of those who disagree with his blanket statements which are
>substantiated by the fact that he posted them.

You guys literally have no idea what you're talking about.

>> >So, other than pointing out your *complete inability* to
>> >refute my statement (which is both sufficient and necessary to account
>> >for observable facts), you're just pissing in the wind, aren't you,
>> >Roger?
>
>I just *love* your "debating" style. :)

Again, we'll note your inability to provide any response of more weight.

>> TAOILHTN.
>
>What does that mean ?
>
>> Are you * sure * you're not Joe Bellinger or vice versa?
>>
>> IOW -- what are * your * facts supporting your claim that MS had a
>> monopoly on OSes before the IBM PC?
>
>He said so. What more do you want ? You wouldn't expect him to degrade
>himself by actually substantiating his claims, now would you ?

I said so and nobody has provided any evidence otherwise.  So far, we're
dealing with reputation, and any poster on adm with any integrity will
tell you that my reputation is far and away superior to either of yours.
Not my fault.

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:53:18 GMT

Said The Ghost In The Machine in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 31 Mar
2001 22:12:44 GMT; 
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Giuliano Colla
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
>on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:36:15 GMT
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your comment would indicate that they *DID* switch.  The article says only
>>> that they're "considering", and even if the IT director does decide to
>>> switch, that doesn't mean that those on the board of directors will agree.
>>
>>The article says:
>><QUOTE>
>>Development charity ActionAid is making plans to switch all its desktop
>>computers to Linux, as a way of avoiding the viruses that continuously
>>assault its Windows PCs.
>></QUOTE>
>
>"The best made plans of mice and men aft gang agley" - Robert Burns.
>
>However, more power to 'em.  I would hope that they do plan sufficiently
>to ensure that their infrastructure can handle the switchover,
>of course (do they use Exchange, for example?).  Done right, it
>should result in more reliable operation -- but that doesn't mean
>it's always done right. :-)

But even done wrong, its better than Exchange.  :-)

>>However, to mention a first hand information, the Chamber of Commerce of
>>Bologna (Italy), has considered switching to Linux, the board of
>>directors has approved, and they have switched to Linux. They have also
>>decided to keep one Windows workstation, in order to handle documents
>>e-mailed in MS proprietary formats for compatibility. But a problem has
>>arisen: once the employees have experienced Linux, nobody wants to sit
>>at the Windows workstation, which crashes, nags about upgrades, shows
>>red warnings about unregistered software (they didn't care to register
>>software they're not going to use, of course), and does all the stupid
>>things MS users take for granted until they experience something
>>different.
>
>Not a bad testimonial, admittedly, if a bit short on details.
>I wish I could convince my employer to switch to
>Linux/Postgres+Oracle, myself (right now we're maybe half NT,
>half Solaris; I wouldn't mind keeping the Solaris, and the main
>engine is a big fat multiheaded Sun machine, I forget which one).
>
>If we run Java everywhere, it wouldn't matter what we use.
>(We don't, but Rome wasn't built in a day. :-) )

That's what Jackson figured, too.  Bill Gates, as well.  Why beat
yourself up over it?

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:53:05 -0800

Mathew wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> 
> > Go to Russia and you see the same thing with Lenin.   Statues of
> > Lenin are still quite easy to find.  And he's still spoken of as
> > a hero.   As if delivering the peasants from their erstwhile
> > freedom back into his own slavery cum personality cult was some
> > sort of heroic deed on his part.
> 
In what way was feudalism, starvation, and abject poverty "freedom",
Aaron?
-- 
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:54:31 GMT

Said Giuliano Colla in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 01 Apr 2001 
   [...]
>If you can read italian, you may visit the site, and learn useful tips
>for trading with Japan or on how to get rid of industrial wastes. Very
>exciting :-)

LOL!

   [...]
>> If we run Java everywhere, it wouldn't matter what we use.
>> (We don't, but Rome wasn't built in a day. :-) )
>
>It took also quite a long time to destroy it. One must be patient.


-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 02:54:25 GMT

Roger <roger@.> wrote:

>Off topic for this thread, but Max has claimed at least two
>conversations with you re:  a problem with IE which was solved by
>replacement of a video card.  Since he originally claimed it was me,
>in spite of being corrected before (and since it is, after al, Max)
>I'm inclined to take his recent version of the fantasy with a huge
>grain of salt.
>
>Do you recall the threads he's babbling about?

Hey, looked what just crawled out of my kill-file.  I thought Roger
was gone forever.  Actually, I think Max has missed him.  

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