Linux-Advocacy Digest #278, Volume #33 Mon, 2 Apr 01 09:13:02 EDT
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Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:40:04 -0400
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> Dana wrote:
> >
> > No Erb, you are the one that is wrong. We are a constitutional republic. We
> > are not a liberal democracy, that form of socialism
>
> No, you're wrong. Liberal Democracy means a Democratic Republic based
> on liberal principles.
No...a Liberal Democracy is a Democracy based on liberal principles.
A Democratic Republic is a Democratic Republic.
A Democratic Republic based on Liberal principles would be called
a Liberal Democratic Republic.
None of which changes the fact that the United States is a
CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC, with absouletely ZERO democracy at
the state and federal level....at least not legally.
> Ideological liberalism is a belief in limited
> government and a claim that humans have the inherent right of life,
> liberty and property, based on the work of among others, John Locke.
> Liberalism is an ideological opponent of socialism.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's the first intelligent thing you've written all week.
Now...what does that mean about those Democrats who claim to be
Liberals, while voting for all their happy socialist horseshit.
>
> Classical liberalism saw a very, very limited government (Milton
> Friedman considers himself a classical liberal), "new" liberalism
> associated with developments in Britain and thinkers like John Stuart
> Mill argues that to have real liberty and equal opportunity the state
> must institute some kind of social welfare programs. Both are at base
Yeah...slavery is liberty, and theft is a contribution.
> ideologically liberal, socialism is something else.
Government run charity is nothing more than enslavement of the workers
for the benefit of the parasites.
>
> > is found in Europe in
> > countries like Germany. And our federalism is not Germany's >federalism.
>
> Germany in some ways has a stronger federalism than ours, their states
> choose who serves in their upper house, much like the US Senate was
> chosen before direct popular vote to the Senate was ratified.
Said amendment which should be repealed, because as soon as it was passed,
the idiotic bullshit started.
>
> Dana, your ignorance of the basics here shows that perhaps you need to
> do some reading on this. I'll later on post a set of books you could
> start with; at this point, you are in over your head.
For someone who claims to be have such a high degree of ejukayshun and
ackademic ackomplishment, you still can't write a single post IN YOUR
OWN FREAKING FIELD OF STUDY without it containing NUMEROUS false statements
and inane definitions.
This might be just one reason why you hide out in academia...because
outside the academic classes, the only job YOU can hold down is one where
you are required to ask, "Would you like fries with that?"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Spot the character assassination.
First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
very very very clear that I am utterly opposed to all forms of socialism,
as that is merely a trendy word for government-mandated slavery.
> bravado. Apparently the guy does not like being shown that he is wrong
> in his world view -- a view which seems based on his own whims, never
No...what I don't like are closet-wannabe-dictators like you, who piss
on the Constitution, promote worker-enslaving taxation schemes, and then
want to parade around as if you are some sort of liberator.
> supported or substantiated in any way. He did prove to me in this post
> that he isn't worth being taken seriously. It takes all kinds, I
> guess.
Fortunately, the vast majority of those who keep and issue the automatic
weapons in this country agree with me.
heheheheheh
Have fun when you get your gun-control laws passed, and discover that
the people sent out to your house to search for them....all think like me.
Talk about poetic fucking justice.
>
> Mathew wrote:
> >
> > For a person who constantly calls people"little dictators"
> > and "fascists" , Aaron certainky takes the cake for personifying
> > his own words.
> >
> > A product of fascist military indoctrination ,no doubt.
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > > Scott Erb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Erb wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is why Democracy is *ILLEGAL* at the Federal and State level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What on earth do you mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > You didn't pay attention in your civics class, did you?
> > > > > Either that, or your teacher was some leftist tool.
> > > >
> > > > Your response is argumentum ad hominem, and thus a fallacy. Anyway,
> > > > I've got a Ph.D. in Political Science, so I obviously have studied quite
> > > > a bit about political systems.
> > >
> > > That must be why you are so full of propaganda, and yet miss
> > > things that are completely fucking obvious to 4-year olds,
> > > such as your ridiculous assertion that races don't exist.
> > >
> > > To be a fully brainwashed liberal parasite, a PhD is an absolute
> > > necessity...and something as utterly WORTHLESS and non-testable
> > > as Political Science is a bonus for establishing your credentials
> > > as a true-believer.
> > >
> > > Tell us...if you studied Political SCIENCE...tell us of all
> > > the repeatable, verifiable experiments which you perform?
> > >
> > > After all, that *IS* a necessary pre-requisite for something
> > > to be a science.
> > >
> > > No....no...you didn't study Political *Science*...not at all.
> > >
> > > You studied Political PROPAGANDA METHODOLOGY.
> > >
> > > Fortunately, you are easily defeated by anybody who is half-way
> > > observant of history and the world around him.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > You do know, don't know, that a Republic can be democratic?
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a contradiction in terms.
> > > > >
> > > > > DEMO-CRACY literally equals "government by the people"
> > > >
> > > > As I explained, a Democratic Republic is NOT a pure democracy where
> > > > majority rules, but a democratic system that is limited by certain
> > > > rules, in our case, a constitution.
> > >
> > > FUCK YOU and your LYING PROPAGANDA SPEWING ASS.
> > >
> > > There is no "democratic" about it. We are a Republic. More
> > > specifically, we are a CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED REPUBLIC.
> > >
> > > NOWHERE in *ANY* government laws and sort of democratic *anything*
> > > allowed at the State or Federal level.
> > >
> > > If you want to run a town, or even a county, as a democracy, you
> > > are fully within your rights to do so.
> > >
> > > But the US Constitution, the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, specificies
> > > in UNMISTAKABLE language the the United States is a Republic.
> > >
> > > Not a "democratic republic"....just a Republic.
> > >
> > > Popular election of Representatives and Senators does *NOT*
> > > a democracy make, nor a Democratic Republic make, so you and
> > > your PROPAGANDA NOISE about the US being a "democratic Republic"
> > > can go take a flying fucking leap off a cliff.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you look at the Constitution, it is quite clear that "the people"
> > > > > are specifically PROHIBITED from governing the nation....that is
> > > > > left to the Senate and the House of Representatives....that is,
> > > > > a REPUBLIC (governance by representatives)
> > > >
> > > > That is called representative democracy.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > >
> > > Wrong. The United Kingdom is a Representative Democracy.
> > > However, *WE* do not have a parliamentary system, therefore,
> > > we are not a Representative Democracy
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, it's best not to contradict yourself within a
> > > mere one paragraph of your previous statement.
> > >
> > > To wit, you previously said that the United States is a "democratic
> > > republic", and *NOW* you said that it is a "representative
> > > democracy".
> > >
> > > Well, which is it? A Democracy by Representation, or a
> > > Republic by Democracy?
> > >
> > > It can't be BOTH ways.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I have now demonstrated, by your own definitions,
> > > that you lied at least once.
> > >
> > > Of course...the real truth is that you lied twice. Every time
> > > you try to weasel in the word "democracy" to describe our system
> > > of government, your are LYING.
> > >
> > > Remember, Asshole, several MILLION American took an oath to defend
> > > the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES against *ALL* enemies, both
> > > foreign and domestic.
> > >
> > > People like you, claiming to have a PhD in Political Science, who
> > > then go around telling lies like such as above, qualify, in no
> > > uncertain terms, as ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
> > >
> > > Make no doubt about it.
> > >
> > > Some day...when they you're lined up against the wall, and you
> > > feel the hot, searing pain of bullets ripping through your body,
> > > literally turning the very cells around the entry wound into
> > > a worthless pool of slime in the wound cavity....just remember,
> > > that I warned you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh..and if you think that you should call the government to
> > > come get me...guess what, asshole....I *AM* the government.
> > >
> > > Not only that, but *YOUR* *TAX* *DOLLARS* go to express purpose
> > > of training MILLIONS of people just like me, to kill closet-dictator
> > > assholes just like you.
> > >
> > > Just remember that the next time you advocate the idea that
> > > individual rights are unnecessary because you can trust the
> > > government to do the right thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > People choose their
> > > > representatives, and can hold them accountable at election time. The
> > > > most pure system of representative democracy is the British system,
> > > > which is a parliamentary unitary system (not a Presidential federal
> > > > system).
> > >
> > > The United States is NOT a parliamentary system. Therefore,
> > > the premise of your argument is false...which makes the rest
> > > of your argument null and void.
> > >
> > > For a PhD in Political Science, how come you're getting your ass
> > > REAMED by an engineer who never even fulfilled the necessary
> > > humanities requirements for a degree?
> > >
> > > If I were you, I'd go back to whatever community college you got
> > > your PhD from and demand a fucking refund, because, whatever they
> > > taught you in class, it's quite obvious that you didn't learn jack
> > > shit about the real world (other than how to lie).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -snip-
> > > >
> > > > > > sets certain rules and procedures within which the democratic aspects of
> > > > > > the system function. The term "Liberal Democracy" (used to describe the
> > > > > > US and many European states) means a Democratic Republic limited by
> > > > >
> > > > > The us is NOT a democracy of any type. Whoever told you that the US is
> > > > > a "Liberal Democracy" is either ignorant of what the term means, or
> > > > > filling your head with propaganda. Likewise for Europe. In fact,
> > > >
> > > > Alas, you're the one totally out of step with all theory and scholarship
> > > > on this issue, as well the history of the US.
> > >
> > > Said "Scholarship" being the work of your fellow leftist closet-dictators.
> > >
> > > Oh no, you, and they, *certainly* don't have an axe to grind...other
> > > than the fact that you got picked on in high school, and now you're
> > > looking for revenge...and the best way YOU can think of is to set
> > > up a form of government where you can micromanage their lives.
> > >
> > > Well, fortunately, because leftist assholes like you refuse to serve in
> > > the military...guess what....All the people who actually HAVE THE GUNS...
> > > ..you know..the MILITARY GRADE GUNS....the ones with the KEYS TO
> > > THE ARMS ROOMS IN THE ARMORIES...and the KEYS TO THE AMMUNITION
> > > STORAGE POINTS....guess what...***ALL*** of those people are the very
> > > same people who's political views you despise.
> > >
> > > The police, the army, the FBI, the CIA...leftist assholes like you
> > > all shirk your responsibilities as a citizen, to do your part to
> > > serve in these organizations...don't you.
> > >
> > > Therefore...here's a fucking thought that should help you sleep
> > > soundly...
> > >
> > > Those people who's political views you abhor:
> > >
> > > THEY're the ones who patrol your streets
> > > THEY're the ones who have the civil disturbance training.
> > > THEY're the ones who run the military
> > > THEY're the ones who fly the air force's combat aircraft
> > > THEY're the ones who crew the tanks
> > > THEY're the ones who man the cannons
> > > THEY're the ones who carry the rifles, machine guns, grenade
> > > launchers, and all of the other parafarnelia of
> > > the infantryman
> > >
> > > so DON'T FUCK WITH THEM, because THEY ARE THE ONES WHO STAND
> > > GUARD WHILE YOU SLEEP!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > I know of *NO* nation on the face of the earth which is a democracy.
> > > >
> > > > If you look at any text (I'd recommend Hauss' Comparative Politics, or
> > > > Juerg Steiner's "European Democracies"), you'd see that all what are
> > > > called "democracies" today are Republics of some sort, save perhaps
> > > > Great Britain whose link to the Monarchy gives it a different kind of
> > > > rationale (though it still functions practically as a democracy, albeit
> > > > not limited by a written constitution but agreements between Parliament
> > > > and the Crown, and precident).
> > > >
> > > > No government is a "pure democracy" of majority rule with no limits.
> > >
> > > Really? Are you absolutely sure?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > That is obvious.
> > >
> > > No, it is not obvious at all.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > liberal principles (a right to life, liberty, and property, with a focus
> > > > > > on individual freedoms, harkening back to philosophers like Locke, it is
> > > > > > distrustful of a strong central government).
> > > > >
> > > > > None of which has to do with Democracy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Respect for human rights is not democracy. In fact, Democracy is
> > > > > particularly DANGEROUS to human rights. Ever hear of the term
> > > > > "the Tyranny of the Majority" If "the majority" of easily confused
> > > > > and swayed citizens can be rallied to violate your human rights, then
> > > > > exactly how does a democracy connote human rights.
> > > >
> > > > All that is why we have Democratic Republics. That is what the general
> > > > term "democracy" means in current usage. If you're attacking crude pure
> > > > democracy you're just attacking a straw man, your argument has no
> > > > relevance to issues at hand today.
> > >
> > > You insist on insertin the word Democracy without showing me ANY
> > > citations that give you a basis for such a claim.
> > >
> > > The United States constitution specifically spells out the word
> > > REPUBLIC. The word "Democracy" isn't even mentioned. In fact,
> > > up until the 1930's, the U.S. Army Basic Training handbook, which
> > > is given to each soldier, specifically stated that not only is
> > > the United Staes ***NOT*** a democracy, but also (truthfully,
> > > I might note), that democracy is the greatest threat to the
> > > protection of human rights.
> > >
> > > Democracy is the last step before dictatorship.
> > >
> > > Ask the Russians.
> > > Ask the Germans.
> > >
> > > They know.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Fortunately, the final protector of the human rights affirmed in the
> > > > > Constitution is the 2nd Amendment (Unconditional right to keep and
> > > > > bear arms) which gives teeth to all of the others.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, a fat lot of good that will do you if you try to claim the US
> > > > government is illegitimate and try to ignore it. The government can
> > > > outescalate you every step of the way.
> > > > cheers, scott
> > >
> > > Clue for the clueless...I ***AM*** the government, you asshole.
> > >
> > > Specifically, I am part of the very force that you saw will be
> > > "sent to get me"....in fact....I would say that 90% or more of
> > > the infantrymen,...the guys who you think will be "sent out to
> > > get me"....believe the same things as what I stated above.
> > >
> > > Putting PhD behind your name doesnt change the fact that we all
> > > know that you're lying out your ass....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:52:21 -0400
Beth wrote:
>
> What saddens me is that you've let yourselves be taken in by BS rhetoric and
> empty propoganda...
>
> Really, I'm NOT going to push one particular "feel good" drug of a political
> system here or anywhere else...I'm asking you to simply ignore the
> propoganda that's spewed and actually look with an unbiased eye at all
> systems and see that NONE of them are "good"...they are all "passable" as
> ideas and that's about it...
>
> What worries me is that everyone will carry on blindly fighting away...all
> this empty machismo and pointless one-upmanship...one example here, one
>
> We've taken ourselves to the brink of self-destruction on this particular
> score before...why do we want to go there again?
>
> Please, stop fighting this non-argument...we really wouldn't benefit if
> someone "wins" and we all suffer badly from the struggle and if one side
> "loses" then all that does is restrict us...basically, if you fight this
> sort of argument, you are fighting to LOSE, it's LOSE/LOSE...
Wrong. Doing nothing and letting your country be stolen from you
by corrupt politicians who operate by taxing the workers into poverty,
and then pretending to be "GENEROUS" by giving them their own money
back is a loss.
Taking your country BACK is not a loss...it is a gain. Not only does
it solve the immediate problem, but it also puts future generations
of power-hungry cretins on notice.
Have you noticed that of the former Warsaw Pact countries, Romania
is MUCH freer than all of her neighbors?
Could be because that theiving Caucescou and equallly dispicable bitch
of a wife were both stood up against the wall and cut down on live
TV, would it?
No, of course not.
There is only one punishment which is proper for those who seek to
enslave others...and that's it.
>
> Of course, believe what you will personally but "I'm right, you're wrong" is
> pointless and destructive...since the dawn of time, man has tried to
> brainwash his fellow man to believe like him...it not only never works, it
> stands absolutely NO chance of EVER working...
>
> Let's be constructive...listen to the "opposition", even if you think they
> are totally wrong...as I'm sure your experience (and the experience of
> countless billions before you) shows, shouting loudly gets everyone nowhere
> fast...the second someone utters "you're wrong" then it turns into a brawl
> and nothing more...
>
There is nothing more reprehensible than bargaining with people who are
trying to enslave you. Not unless the subject of the negotiations is
what they will do, for the people, to be let off with life in prison
as opposed to the execution they deserve.
> Please, you're all better than this...show it...and, guess what, making an
> argument by example actually has the power to change people's
> opinions...shouting "you are a commie asshole" NEVER EVER works...after all,
> think about it for two seconds, if they are a "commie" then being called a
> "commie" is a great compliment NOT an insult...
You are truly NUTS, Beth. Have you EVER been to a communist country?
EVERYBODY wants to leave those places.
Do you know why?
>
> You all argue with your blind predjuices showing and even if you could prove
> beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are right then NO-ONE would listen
> anyway because you're bigoted and biased and spouting other people's empty
> propoganda...
I am goddamned sick and tired of people who go around trampling on the
Constitution rights and freedoms of the workers of this country and then
have the gall to parade around like they're some sort of liberators.
>
> Think for yourselves.
>
> Beth :)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:53:51 -0400
Mathew wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Beth wrote:
>
> > People, people...give up the "party line" BS and face facts:
> >
> > ALL political systems are crap.
> >
> > Communism is crap.
> > Capitalism is crap.
> >
> > To badly paraphrase Churchill, "Democracy is crap but it's the best we've
> > thought up so far"...
> >
> > I mean, if you want to get your kicks from needlessly arguing back and forth
> > about "lefties" and "facists" then feel free but you'll get nowhere
> > fast...what you think all the political thinkers since the dawn of time have
> > been doing? This argument: "selfishness" vs. "altruism", me vs. you,
> > blah-blah-blah...is the oldest thing mankind has fought over...
> >
> > It's interesting that someone pointed out the very close parallels between
> > Hitler (far, far right) and Stalin (far left)...don't you get it? Both ideas
> > at their extremes are more or less identical...they are BOTH CRAP...
> >
> > Also, note that captialistic countries were/aren't/won't be purely
> > capitalistic and communistic countries were/aren't/won't be purely
> > communistic...they are ideals that cannot be physically reached...and, if
> > they were, then BOTH would collapse...
> >
> > For instance, in a pure capitalistic environment, then an individual would
> > be striving for monopoly...it's the ideal state that a capitalist can aim
> > for...BUT, as every capitalistic country knows, you CAN'T allow monopoly
> > because, ironically, it's a communist dictatorship you're aiming for in the
> > ideal...
> >
> > Let me just re-iterate: THEY ARE *ALL* CRAP...
>
> Man I feel like taking a crap right now! :)
> Excellent analysis,Beth.
You'll endorse ANYTHING which allows you to not face up to the fact
that you are a totalitarian statist.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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