Linux-Advocacy Digest #417, Volume #33 Fri, 6 Apr 01 12:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Q:Windows NT scripting? (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message (Toby A Inkster Esq)
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (PhOeNiX)
.NET, JIT, IA64 (was: Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant) (George Coulouris)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (PhOeNiX)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (PhOeNiX)
Re: I'm so happy! (Martigan)
Re: do penguins like fish? ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Screaming wannbie new users. (Martigan)
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q:Windows NT scripting?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:04:47 GMT
On Fri 06 Apr 2001 09:38, Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
[Snip]
> Of course the system will fail if the display
> system fails. The GDI is an integrated part of
^^^^^^^^^^
This is a good thing? :-/
> WindowsNT. It cannot run if the facilities it
> needs, like a proper display driver, are not
> working properly. But this is the fault of
> either the display driver, or the display
> hardware.
>
> I've seen X11R5 take down SCO OpenServer many times,
> simply because the Xserver's ability to recognize a
> certain make of card was just "tossed in" for good
> measure. I've also had many problems with XFree86
> under GNU/Linux as well.
>
Have you ever tried to remotely log in to the "crashed" *nix-running
computer? The odds are very good that you can do a kill -9 X and start it
up again. I don't have any experience with SCO, but in Linux this is the
situation all the time (when X crashes I mean, not on a daily basis :-).
Just because the video card is in an indeterminate state and the keyboard
isn't responding doesn't mean that anything else has stopped working, or
that it can't be fixed without rebooting.
> The problem here is that X runs as a priveleged root
> process, so if it fails, so can the operating system,
> if X cannot cleanly exit, and instead decides to lock
> itself up.
>
You are correct in that X is privileged and has the ability to crash the
system. However, in my experience, it rarely acts on that ability.
> However, in WindowsNT, if the graphic interface
> (EXPLORER.EXE) fails, it simply restarts itself,
> and all of my applications are fine. If X or
> its window manager fails, and X cleanly exits,
> all of the resident X applications are killed off,
> which means, "data go bye-bye".
>
Straw man. The appropriate comparison would be GDI vs. X, or EXPLORER.EXE
vs. the window manager (kwm, Sawfish, Enlightenment, BlackBox, fvwm, etc.).
You can bet that if GDI or X fails, all your applications will go bye-bye.
But if Explorer or the window manager fails, applications momentarily lose
out on the features that those programs provide (Start Menu and System Tray
for Explorer, titlebars and other window decorations in X).
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
[Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
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From: Toby A Inkster Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:08:28 +0100
In our last episode, Matthew Gardiner wrote:
:It will be rather interesting if
:Linux becomes the defacto standard on chinese computers, and even if Linux has a
:20% share in the Chinese OS market, that will equal 240 Million copies, thus
:definitely putting it a serious position.
That assumes every citizen of China has their own PC. I think that is
quite an assumption.
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From: PhOeNiX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:03:55 GMT
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:50:28 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
wrote:
>Having a fairly fast Internet connection is very important for Debian
>users that want to try and keep up to date. The commercial Linux
>distributions bring out new releases several times a year. With Debian
>the time from one stable release to another is much longer.
Not really any more than any distro needs one (although it is nice).
You don't have to upgrade ALL packages every time. It is just that
you can, quite easily. And the long release period (which is getting
shorter) is a Good Thing (tm). Have you ever noticed what buggy POS a
lot of point releases are for other distros?
phoenix
_______________________________________________________
In the year 2001, a movie staring Steven Seagal was the
number one movie in America. The final sign of the
apocolypse has come...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Coulouris)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.arch
Subject: .NET, JIT, IA64 (was: Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant)
Date: 6 Apr 2001 15:22:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Isn't the big question how Intel new McKinley chip will work with .NET's
>execution engine or Just In Time compilers? This is a kind of componentized
>assembly language (Intermediate Language) that the .NET?
[snip]
IMHO, this question reduces to whether or not the .NET JIT will perform
runtime optimizations analogous to those performed by HP's Dynamo [1].
If I put on my Micrsoft-colored glasses, .NET seems to:
1. provide a runtime which is architecture-independent (ia32, ia64, mips,
sh3, et al.),
2. provide a runtime which is potentially OS-independent, making it easy to
move the MS application base to other OSes (DOJ insurance?),
3. provide a mechanism for extracting better performance out of IA64,
4. move Microsoft towards a renting/leasing/subscription revenue model.
Will be interesting to see how it all pans out for them.
[1] http://www.hpl.hp.com/cambridge/projects/Dynamo/
--
George Coulouris - http://www.tc.cornell.edu/~glc5/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:23:03 -0400
silverback wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:26:14 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >silverback wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:32:00 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >silverback wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:25:42 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >silverback wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 03 Apr 2001 10:42:15 GMT, "Alex Chaihorsky"
> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> gee another fucking idiot. Guess who supported him finacically during
> >> >> >> >> the 20s? It was the rich industralists. Hitler came to power by making
> >> >> >> >> secret deals with them. How was it that Hitler was released from
> >> >> >> >> prision after the failed Beer hall Putsch when others that had only
> >> >> >> >> revealed to the press snipets of information that proved Germany was
> >> >> >> >> rearming. They rotted in prision. And yes they were charged with
> >> >> >> >> treason in the early 20s.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Face it boob the only way Hitler gained such a release was someone or
> >> >> >> >> many someones pulled strings for him to get out. And that means only
> >> >> >> >> one thing the German elite.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Many a discussion here sooner or later come back to Nazi-Socialist
>question.
> >> >> >> >To get to the bottom - question to everybody: HOW HITLER GOT TO BE
> >> >> >> >CHANCELLOR?
> >> >> >> >I start a new tread with that title. Please, give me your opinions. Here
>are
> >> >> >> >the facts:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Historic facts:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >During 1932 elections
> >> >> >> >Hitler got 11.8 million votes
> >> >> >> >Social-Democrats 8.1
> >> >> >> >Communists 5.8
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >To be a Chancellor, Hitler had to have absolute majority. He never got it.
> >> >> >> >If Communists would get into coalition with SD, Nazi would be outsiders.
> >> >> >> >Nazi party was in deep financial troubles, Hitler thought of suicide.
> >> >> >> >Communists declined the coalition and Hitler won.
> >> >> >> >Why wouldn't Communists eliminate Hitler by supporting SocDems?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> fact Hitler was appointed chancelor after a backroom deal with the
> >> >> >> leaders of big business. The communist and Nazis were rabidly opposed
> >> >> >> to each other.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And yet, Stalin told the Communists to vote for Hitler.
> >> >>
> >> >> no
> >> >
> >> >And yet, it happened.
> >>
> >> nope it never happened
> >
> >Sliverdick makes fun of the holocaust-deniers, while engaging in the
> >same pattern of behavior as himself.
>
> too bad I stick to the facts
Yeah, just like those Aryan Nation assholes say that the "facts" are
that Buchenwald and Treblinka were merely "homes away from home" so
that jews wouldn't get hurt.
All you are is a paranoid delusional character of another color.
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >It's a matter of HISTORY. Look it up, asshole.
> >> >
> >>
> >> yer trying to rewrite history and got caught lying. I know more about
> >> the German elections than a little liar like you will ever know.
> >
> >Really. You were in Germany peeking over the shoulders of your
> >fellow commies while they voted.....or something.
> >
Notice how sliverdick won't answer this..
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: PhOeNiX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:12:00 GMT
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:36:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
wrote:
<snip>
Dselect is a piece of crap IMO, but it was needed at a time. Now if
you want a dselect like interface you can use aptitude or capt.
>> Hand-in-hand with this, why can't apt *down*grade a package? Numerous
>> times I had to back out of bleeding-edge stuff and I had to hunt down
>> everything apt upgraded to fix it's mistakes. Yes, yes, I know, it's
>> my own fault for using unstable -- too bad that 'stable' Debian is so
>> old.
Well apt does support version pinning as of .5. And although potato
is "old" as you mention, I view it more for servers than anything else
(or any other mission critical use). And as you know you can't beat
apt for security updates across a network. To bad the rpm distros
haven't embraced the rpm port of apt and set up proper binary pools
for it. In the last year or so I've had two problems with unstable.
One was the libc6 issue (this one was fun ;-), and the other during
the move to perl 5.6. But both were easily fixed once you understood
the problem.
>I think this is the biggest fault with Debian. Once a release is
>flagged as stable it remains almost static (there are updates and
>security updates but basic support for new apps or new versions of
>apps stops and all the action is in testing and unstable). Debian's
>granularity is at the release level and not at the application
>level. If you want to upgrade XFree for example you must use testing
>or unstable and then the problems start. The Debian package
>maintainers must support stable with new and upgraded apps while they
>are working on testing and unstable. If they don't then Debian will
>always be a long way behind the commercial distributions and
>application developers will support the Redhat's and SuSE's and
>continue to ignore Debian even though it is a better distribution if
>only for its superb package management. It's a shame that the major
>Linux distributions use rpm. Linux desperately needs a standardised
>file system structure and a standardised package manager. To date the
>Debian package management system is superior to any other I have
>used.
This isn't quite accurate. Packages were compiled for potato just
after there release. As they are for pretty much any important
updates (kde2 etc). You might want to subscribe to debian-user.
Things in "stable" should be pretty much static minus security
updates, that's what makes it truly stable.
phoenix
_______________________________________________________
In the year 2001, a movie staring Steven Seagal was the
number one movie in America. The final sign of the
apocolypse has come...
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:27:21 -0400
silverback wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:27:09 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >silverback wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:33:04 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >silverback wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:26:17 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >silverback wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:00:40 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Michael Ejercito wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:00:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >> >> (silverback) wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> >> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>Scott Erb wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >>> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
> >> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Spot the character assassination.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
> >> >> >> >> >always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
> >> >> >> >> >corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
> >> >> >> >> >top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Fascism has more to do with abolishment of individual rights.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >****ALLL**** forms of SOCIALism are about abolishing individual rights.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> sorry idiot fascism has always been a right wing ideology. Its what
> >> >> >> you spew forth.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >yes...right wing SOCIALISM, sliverdick.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> there is no such thing as right wing socialism
> >> >
> >> >What part of "National Socialist Workers Party" do you not understand?
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> poor damn fool still thinks East germany was a democracy too.
> >>
> >
> >The inaccuracy of ONE title does not imply the inaccuracy of ALL titles.
>
> it applies in spades to the term socialist in the Nazi party idiot.
> The Nazis were right wing extremist like yerself.
1) right wing SOCIALIST
2) I'm not right-wing anything...unless you're saying that the US
Constitution is a right-wing document.
> The Nazis believed in corporate rule, so do you.
Proof?
On the contrary, I think EVERYBODY should participate in the duty of
government responsibilities (defense, police, firefighting) ***AND***
in business benefits (stock ownership, etc.).
> The Nazis cut the taxes on the rich the way you would.
So, what you're saying is that taxes on the highly productive
should be jacked up without limits, eh, sliverdick
>
> >
> >Hope that helps, sliverdick.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: PhOeNiX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:14:51 GMT
On 06 Apr 2001 08:52:11 -0600, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Yes it does have some shortcomings, but rpm based distros have this problem
>> as well. Overall I greatly prefer the package based dependencies. One of
>> my main gripes about dpkg is I can't seem to:
>> 1: generate a list of installed packages (only the names!)
>
>True, it comes so close, but fails by truncating the package name.
You might want to check out dpkg-awk and dpkg-www etc.
>> 2: find out what package a file on my system belongs to
>
>dpkg -S /path/to/file
phoenix
_______________________________________________________
In the year 2001, a movie staring Steven Seagal was the
number one movie in America. The final sign of the
apocolypse has come...
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From: Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I'm so happy!
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:30:17 GMT
Mig wrote:
> Chad Everett wrote:
>
> > Then why the heck are you suggesting that the same thing can be done "in
> > Windows, too, if you install Cygwin 32" and stand on one foot while keep
> > one arm pointed south with one eye closed. Sheesh! How about
> > something simpler......don't run Windows!
>
> The fun part is that the stuff he mentions above actually work rather well
> on Windows. Latex (and even Lyx), Xemacs and Vim work well on Windows . Im
> pretty sure that you even can have man + manpages on Windows without too
> much hassle.
>
Ok I am very Windows ignorant then PLEASE tell me when during the
install the Windows Man pages are installed so I can read them. Oh do they
have to be index first? Do they give a detailed discription on each
command option? Do the list the possible combinations? Your right the
Bill gate would allow everyday users full access to all commands with in
the OS!
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: do penguins like fish?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:28:28 +0200
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Unknown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So far I've seen three products with the word "fish" in them:
> blowfish, twofish (both encryption systems) and sawfish (a window
> manager)
>
> Is there some private joke I don't know about?
Don't know about in-jokes, but you forgot a fish: Bluefish (an HTML
editor).
Mart
--
Write in C, write in C,
Write in C, yeah, write in C.
Only wimps use BASIC, Write in C.
http://www.orca.bc.ca/spamalbum/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:34:46 -0400
sliverdick wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:39:20 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >sliverdick wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:43:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Raoul Duke*** wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:54:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Gunner ©" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:01:02 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
> >> >> >> >> government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >It would be poetic justice.
> >> >> >> >It is not that Erb is ignorant, he is very dishonest. And to think he is
> >> >> >> >teaching this to his students.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> HE"S a TEACHER? Lord love a duck. No wonder the SAT scores are being
> >> >> >> lowered. No wonder the educational system in this country is floundering
> >> >> >> and turning out kids who cannot read, nor think, nor function.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Scott would be a poster child for home schooling.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Home-school your kid...or else he might turn out to be like Scott Erb.
> >> >>
> >> >> Home school your kid. He will make a great shoe shine boy in a
> >> >> Chinese suburb.
> >> >
> >> >Colleges across the nation are reporting that home-schooled kids
> >> >tend to be MUCH better students than public-schooled kids.
> >>
> >> bullshit
> >
> >And yet, it's true
>
> no it is not true idiot
prove it.
>
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Why is that?
> >>
> >> because its another fucking right wing lie.
> >>
> >
> >So says the sliverdick. Fortunately, facts are at hand.
> >
> >
> >http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_3_an_a_for_home.html
> >
>
> right wing trash literature proves nothing except that yer an empty
> headed idiot.
>
Ah yes, back to the same old sliverdick definition: anything that
isn't marxist trash is "right wing"
> >....
> >This year, home-schooled kids swept the top three places on the
> >National Spelling Bee, and Stanford accepted 27 percent of its
> >home-schooled applicants, nearly twice its average acceptance rate.
>
> spelling bees is not eductation they only allow for rote memorization.
>
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Small wonder that the public school establishment wants to regulate
> >home schooling out of existence. It represents a silent, but
> >eloquent, reproach to the professionals.
> >
>
> bullshit, it represent a step back to the 1600s
Which, unfortunately, is a step UP for the average public school kid
who spends more hours/day being indoctrinated into radical marxist
politics and learning how to be a good, cooperative little slave
than anything of value which might allow him to get ahead in life.
>
> >....
> >
> >
> >Sabrina and Gary Matteson's story of their son Myles's public
> >school woes is typical. Several years back, Myles, bored crazy
> >with third grade at the New Hampshire public school he attended,
> >begged his parents to let him stay home and read more challenging
> >books—"a request from a kid that a parent shouldn't simply ignore,"
> >says Sabrina. When the Mattesons informed the school principal
> >that they were going to home school their son, the honest
> >administrator couldn't blame them. "He told us that they had to
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> more right wing trash bullshit
>
> the rest of the idiot's trash snipped mercifully
Translation: Sliverdick can't argue with the FACT that Stanford University
documents that home-schooled kids are
A) getting higher SAT scores than both public school AND
private school kids
B) getting better GRADES at Stanford than their public and
private school peers.
>
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> GDY Weasel
^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, sliverdick, you certainly ARE a weasel.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screaming wannbie new users.
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:41:49 GMT
O.k. I have been hearing from some new users that Linux is too hard to
learn. Why? Does it take a little more brain power? YES! Does it give
us more options and choices? YES!
Hell I was at a SMALL computer show, Siemens (sp?) was trying to show
off their wireless networking, on two win NT 4.0 machines. But failed they
kept locking up.
Sun was showing their Network "Service" on a Solaris Term, and a Win Nt
term. , the Win NT term kept locking up.
Cisco laughed when I said "Why don't you run Win NT?"
So the Big companies run Linux/Unix, or BSD.
If the companies a using them what should that tell you? That they are
cheap basterds that wanna save money? If so then why did so many servers
get taken down with "i love you. txt.vbs"? And many companies are still
fight the VBS scare.
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