Linux-Advocacy Digest #464, Volume #33 Mon, 9 Apr 01 13:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. ("Andy Walker")
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. ("Andy Walker")
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (Bob Hauck)
Re: Windows in space...... ("Patrick McAllister")
Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant (Icarus)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: MS and ISP's ("JS PL")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Greg Copeland)
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:01:23 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
>gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
>and on I went to work.
>
>If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
>out of their minds.
>
>And before anyone tells me I am a newbie, I am not.
>
>I had a IDE r/w CDROM. with SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4, and KDE latest and
greatest.
>
>Wanted to burn some files into the CD (which on windows is a breeze).
>
>so I started KonCD (or whatver that thing is called that comes with KDE).
>of course , it did not see it and no reason is given. searching and
>reading I found I need to build a new kernel with scsi ide emulation mode
>(imagin if someone on windows has to rebuild windows to write a CD).
>
>OK, I went through that, rebuild a new kernel, ran lilo and rebooted.
>
>now KonCD sees the device. I select the directory to write to the CD
>(why the hell it wont let one select a file, but a directory is another
>brain dead feature). So, it wrote the directory to the CD OK.
>
>Now another fun part starts. I wanted to read the CD. no chance. unable
>to mount the CD.
>
>tried every possible combination and device (trying to figure name of
devices
>on linux is another stupid thing, why does not linux have at least
something
>like 'volcheck' on Solaris?).
>
>Then I started searching the net for clues, I found that I need to tell
>the kernel at boot up some more hint. so added the line
>
>append "hdb=scsi"
>
>where hdb is my CD drive on my PC.
>
>re-run lilo and reboot.
>
>try again
>
>mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /some_directory
>
>no luck. same erros.
>
>Yes, I have iso file system build in.
>
>try a dozen more mount commands, all the same errors. dmesg simply tells
>me I have an IO error or some other cryptic kernel messages which gives
>no clue as what to do.
>
>shutdown the PC, reboot to window, stick the same CD and it is there.
>the directory I wrote on the CD is actually there.
>
>No rebuilding kernels, no telling windows any boot parameters, no
>mounting, no trying to remember the device cryptic names. It is just there
>to use. as an OS should be.
>
>I can't believe this. why, I ask why, can't linux be as simple as windows?
>
>anyone who think this stuff will challenge windows must be on drugs, and
>I really mean that.
>
Try installing Windows from scratch with one IDE and one SCSI CD writer and
you'll really be pulling your hair out, it's unable to make up it's mind
which drive is D: and which is E: and as a result you can't get it to
install without physically unplugging one or the other.
At least with Linux my machine stayed physically intact! On my machine Linux
detected everything perfectly and unlike Windows doesn't crash half-way
through burning in a CD-R, I've lost count of how many disks I've had to
throw away because Windoze is so unstable!
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:11:41 -0000
pip wrote in message >
>MWPSTL => LSA++ && HS++ && MS++ => DI++ => LSA++ ........ ad infinitum
Don't you mean
MWPSTL => LSA++ && HS++ && MS++ => DI++ => LSA++ = IIMUM
IIMUM= Interface Idiot Microsoft Users can Manage ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:16:38 GMT
On 8 Apr 2001 21:29:24 -0700, kirk@do_not_spam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
> gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
> and on I went to work.
[snip long series of problems]
Of course, none of this really happend.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Patrick McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows in space......
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:16:21 -0400
Yes, it is.
Also what I found interesting was the note that the Russian laptops were
"running an unspecified operating system."
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:53 -0400, Patrick McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Probably a duplicate post, but if not, makes for a
funny....kinda.....read.
> >
> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,42912,00.html
> >
> >
>
> This is worth a short quote, don't you think?:
>
>
> 2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT
> .....
>
> The space station, which has been operational for less than five
> months, experiences almost daily computer glitches, according to
> the commander's log recently published on the Web.
>
> Most of the problems appear to be related to Microsoft's Windows NT,
> while Russian-made software seems to be more reliable.
>
> .....
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Icarus)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.arch
Subject: Re: IA32, was an advocacy rant
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:23:32 GMT
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:55:59 -0500, "Ben L. Titzer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...accessing extended memory...]
>Regardless, it's my opinion that somewhere along the line it's a pain in
>the ass for either the hardware, the compiler, the OS, or the application
>programmer. There's a much simpler and more straight-forward solution:
>simply extend the address space. Sadly, back in the DOS days, the software
>people didn't quite catch on...It took Microsoft 10 years to develop a
>32 bit consumer OS (1985: 386 introed, 1995: Windows 95). 16-bit code is
Not quite fair. NT was available for a long time before Win95. I
know you said "consumer," but the only reason even ME still has all
that 16-bit code is the "consumer" wants to run all his legacy 16-bit
applications, most of which weren't from Microsoft, and much of which
fails miserably under NT because it wasn't designed to be run in a
protected environment.
>still somewhere hiding in Windows ME. Software has long been the downfall
>of clever hardware engineers.
Perhaps that's because they often ignore it. I remember a discussion
I had with a hardware guy at a previous job. I was explaining that
unless his board changed, we would have to write (and test, and track
through revision control) different code for every board that we
shipped. His response: "But isn't that *just software*?"
Regards,
Icarus
--
The world will little note nor long remember what we say here
-A. Lincoln, Gettysberg Address
I Don't Do Windoze. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:37:15 GMT
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:02:33 -0400, Rob Robertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:16:29 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> >What part of Islamic theology specifies the vertical integration of
>> >industry within the country.
>>
>> fascism is corporate rule dummy. Maybe you should educate yerself and
>> find out how many of those Iranian corporations are controlled by the
>> religious allyotahs.
>
> So if the Ayatollahs who constitute the ruling *state* power control
>those Iranian corporations, how does that support your "fascism is
>corporate rule" thesis, Glen?
fraud is playing dum.... err forgot who I was replying to there folks
excuse me. Fraud doesn't have to play dumb he is dumb. Gee fraud you
might do a little checking and when you do you will find that the
Ayatollahs own and control those corporations.
>
>_
>Rob Robertson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
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Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:37:55 GMT
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 22:05:52 -0700, Robert Sturgeon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 00:34:45 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:25:00 -0700, Robert Sturgeon
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:38:28 GMT,
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 15:18:59 -0700, Robert Sturgeon
>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:29:39 GMT,
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>(snips)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yeah, it's right-wing socialism, characterized by vertical integration
>>>>>>>of the industrial sector.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>there is no such thing as right wing socialism dumb fuck
>>>>>
>>>>>What then do you suppose Nazi means?
>>>>
>>>>I don't give a fuck what the name means dummy. Unless yer one of the
>>>>idiots that still thinks East germany was a democracy and China a
>>>>republic.
>>>
>>>Thank you for being totally open about your willful
>>>ignorance.
>>
>>still think a name means more than their actions? Come on answer up
>>little ignorant asshole.
>
>I seriously doubt that you have a working understanding of
>their actions. And if you think you can order me to "answer
>up," or anything else, over usenet you are one deluded fool.
>But that is already obvious.
too bad fool i have a much better understanding of their actions than
you'll ever have.
>
>--
>Robert Sturgeon-
>Proud member of The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy.
>http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
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Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:38:44 GMT
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:13:51 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sliverdick wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 15:18:59 -0700, Robert Sturgeon
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 17:29:39 GMT,
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>> >
>> >(snips)
>> >
>> >>>Yeah, it's right-wing socialism, characterized by vertical integration
>> >>>of the industrial sector.
>> >>
>> >>there is no such thing as right wing socialism dumb fuck
>> >
>> >What then do you suppose Nazi means?
>>
>> I don't give a fuck what the name means dummy. Unless yer one of the
>> idiots that still thinks East germany was a democracy and China a
>> republic.
>>
>
>China *IS* a republic. It's a communist republic which doesn't
>do much other than rubber-stamp the decisions of the leader at the
>top of the personality cult, but it is, in fact, a republic.
>
>To be a republic, a country doesn't HAVE to have free elections
>of the representatives, mere having them in some way or another
>makes it a republic.
just when you think the right wingers can't get any dumber one happens
along to prove otherwise.
>
>that the US does have free elections of the representatives is
>one of the reasons why we are superior to China
>
>> >
>> >(rest snipped)
>> >
>> >--
>> >Robert Sturgeon-
>> >Proud member of The Vast Rightwing Conspiracy.
>> >http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
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>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
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Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:41:28 GMT
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:03:26 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sliverdick wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 12:46:01 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Mathew wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Mathew wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > "Scott D. Erb" wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > "Scott D. Erb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> > > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > > However, I suspect Marx would be spinning
>in
>> >> > > > > > > > his grave to see his ideas associated with Stalin or Mao.
>Ideological
>> >> > > > > > > > development is complex.
>> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > I have to address this before I address anything else, because I
>think this
>> >> > > > > > > is pivotal.
>> >> > > > > > > Marx was a monster. If you read Manifesto you will find:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Marx was naive. He believed that if you got rid of capitalism you could
>have complete
>> >> > > > > liberty, the state would whither away, you would end exploitation. He
>was motivated
>> >> > > > > by the industrial slums, and how horrid the workers were paid. He
>wanted the workers
>> >> > > > > to rise up against that, and believed if they did they could
>collectively control the
>> >> > > > > means of production and everyone would be better off.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > And yet, you still promote the policies based on the theories of this
>> >> > > > man WHO YOU HAVE JUST ADMITTED was a fool.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > And you promoted dealing with a totalitarian facist fundamentalist Iran.
>> >> > > Now tell me how you are not a Commuinist?
>> >> >
>> >> > Iran is fascist now....
>> >>
>> >> They have been fascist since the Ayatollah took over,but also a bit
>> >> under the Shah.
>> >
>> >Iran has a socialist, vertically integrated economy.
>>
>> and yer fucking nuts.
>> and that is beyond any doubt.
>
>Translation: Sliverdick has been beaten. That's why he's not resorting
>to personal attacks to the exclusion of arguing the facts.
>
>>
>> >
>> >If not, then it ain't fascist.
>>
>> fascism has nothing to do with socialism fuckhead. Fascism is based on
>> corporate rule and capatilism.
>
>Only in your twisted mind. Under capitalism, all businessmen are free
>to conduct business in a free market. Under Fascism, small businessmen
>are only allowed to operate with the permission of the big businessmen...
>therefore, Fascism is NOT capitalism.
too bad you forgot to mention the fact that it was the large
corporations that wrote the laws under the Nazis. It is capatailism.
>
>Hope that helps, sliverdick.
>
>>
>> >
>> >Merely being a non-Communist police state doesn't make a government "fascist"
>> >hope the helps, marxist bastard.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Must be some new definition of fascist with which the rest of the
>> >> > English-speaking is unfamiliar.
>> >> >
>> >> > Or by "fascist" do you merely mean "non-Communist"
>> >>
>> >> You should know what fascist means.
>> >
>> >Yeah, it's right-wing socialism, characterized by vertical integration
>> >of the industrial sector.
>>
>> there is no such thing as right wing socialism dumb fuck
>
>It's called FASCISM, monkey-butt.
fascism has nothing to do with socialism buttfuck
>
>>
>> >
>> >Since Iran doesn't even have an industrial sector worth noting,
>> >it fails the test.
>>
>> the hell it doesn't have an industrial sector
>
>What is Iran noted for exporting, other than pistachios.
it still has an industrial economy
>
>>
>> >
>> >That doesn't mean that it's not a police state...it's merely
>> >a police state that *ISN'T* fascist.
>>
>> its fascist get over it stupid.
>>
>
>Clue for the fucking clueless: "A non-communist government, which is disliked
>by by sliverdick" is NOT the definition of Fascism, ya moron!
it is when its under corporate rule.
>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > He was wrong. Dead wrong. Tragically wrong. But there is no way Marx
>or Engels (and
>> >> > > > > I've read a lot of their private writings, including a lot of Engels
>stuff in the
>> >> > > > > original German) would have ever supported the kind of brutal tactics of
>a Stalin, Mao
>> >> > > > > or Pol Pot.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > And yet, you still push for the kinds of policies which can ONLY be
>> >> > > > successfully implemented by a Stalin, Mao, or Pol P
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Why is that?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > 1. Complete liquidation of private property
>> >> > > > > > > 2. Liquidation of the family, introduction of "official, open mutual
>> >> > > > > > > ownership of wives"
>> >> > > > > > > 3. Children taken from families are brought up by community (Hillary,
>> >> > > > > > > hello!)
>> >> > > > > > > 4. Industrial armies, not employer - employee, (and that is from the
>guy who
>> >> > > > > > > LOVES proletariat!)
>> >> > > > > > > 5. Central credit by central banks with total banking monopoly for
>the
>> >> > > > > > > State.
>> >> > > > > > > 6. Age when children start working - 9 years of age (Resolution of
>Geneva
>> >> > > > > > > International Congress).
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > If this is not the most monstrous document in the history of the
>> >> > > > > > > civilization, please, state which one is.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > This system was implemented four times almost totally - in Hitler's
>> >> > > > > > > concentration camps, Stalin's GULAG and Mao's re-educational
>settlements and
>> >> > > > > > > Pol Pots' Cambodia camps.
>> >> > > > > > > Partially - USSR, Red China, Vietnam, North Korea.
>> >> > > > > > > Superficially - Poland, E. Germany, Hungary, Mongolia, Czeckoslovakia
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Why would Marx be spiining other than out of excitment?
>> >> > > > > > > Typical (I hate this word) socialist attitude - they all have
>aberrated
>> >> > > > > > > Marx. NO! THEY DIDN'T!
>> >> > > > > > > All socialists remain civilized untill they seize the power. Then the
>> >> > > > > > > Marxist bestiary begins.
>> >> > > > > > > EVERY TIME.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Marx was fantasizing about what he thought would lead to a utopia. He
>was wrong. He
>> >> > > > > thought the state would whither away, it didn't. His goal was to end
>alienation and
>> >> > > > > create perfect liberty, his ideas did not lead that direction. His
>errors were
>> >> > > > > typical of 19th century social science (over-determination, bad
>predictions), and
>> >> > > > > ultimately the errors in his theories helped lead to the kinds of horror
>you
>> >> > > > > describe. But to demonize Marx personally because of that is simply
>misguided, and of
>> >> > > > > course irrelevant.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > At the very least now Social Democrats and most leftists recognize that
>the vision of
>> >> > > > > "scientific socialism" espoused by Lenin and the Communists was not only
>wrong, but
>> >> > > > > evil in its actions. Social Democracy does not lead to the kind of
>evil you
>> >> > > > > describe. Sweden has no gulags, Norway is not run like Pol Pot's China.
> You're
>> >> > > > > overstating your case. The danger comes not from Marx, but from any
>attempt to
>> >> > > > > centralize power to try to shape society without that power being
>accountable to the
>> >> > > > > people. Marx was dead wrong not to understand or realize that, but I am
>convinced
>> >> > > > > that he and Engels personally would have been appalled by what later was
>done in their
>> >> > > > > name. Their theory was a failure, but to demonize them is simply silly.
>> >> > > > > cheers, scott
>> >> > > > > http://violet.umf.maine.edu/~erb/
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS and ISP's
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:42:54 -0400
"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JS PL <jspl@jsplom> wrote:
> >
> >"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> The agreements are illegal when used by a monopoly holder to
> >> strengthen or extend that monopoly. Both of which MS did with
their
> >> agreements.
> >>
> >> There are no hard numbers beneath which a monopoly cannot exist and
> >> must be exceeded to guarantee monopoly. Actions, like exclusive
> >> contracts, which can be legal for non monopolies may be deemed
anti-
> >> competitive when done by a monopoly holder.
> >
> >That assumes there are any software companies on earth who hold a
monopoly
> >on anything. All of your statements above are void because MS doesn't
hold a
> >monopoly on anything..... especially operating systems.
> >
> In the paragraph below this I show that MS themselves believe that they
> have a legal monopoly.
>
> Their phrase, taken from copyright law is, "the exclusive right."
Exclusive right to their intellectual property. Fin.
> >>
> >> MS is using copyright laws to declare that they have a legally
> >> granted monopoly because no other company is allowed, by law, to
> >> produce their own version of Windows.
> >
> >Owning the Windows code isn't a "monopoly" on operating systems. Market
> >share doesn't determine that your a monopoly either. Microsoft Windows
could
> >be on every computer on earth. And even if no other OS existed, MS
wouldn't
> >even be close to having a monopoly on operating systems. My power company
> >has a miniscule fraction of the energy market share. Yet they are a full
> >blown monopoly.
> >
> Since having their OS on 100% of all computers does not qualify as a
> monopoly and since the government granted exclusive franchise given to
> your power company does but the exclusive right that MS asserts does not.
MS holds no "right" to be on all computers, but my power company holds the
"right" to be my sole supplier of electricity. That is a true monopoly. My
town newspaper is the only source of local news and print ad space for local
companies, yet they do not have a monopoly. If there were one grocery store
within 1000 miles (or even the only store on earth), that alone doesn't even
come close to holding a monopoly on grocery strores because like operating
systems anyone else is free to build a grocery store. Also the barrier to
entry for new grocery stores (like operating systems) is extremely low.
Even in the new supposedly "competitive" market for electricity poer
companies still enjoy a monopoly as the supplier and can charge whatever
they like for the delivery portion of your bill.
Once again, Microsoft enjoys no "right" to be on any computer...and never
has.
Anyone wishing a different OS can simply buy a computer with a different OS
on it, or commission one to be built, or build one themselves!
OS choices begin here:
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/
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Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:45:18 -0500
Knowledge Seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
or not, it what all other editors try to be. Period. That doesn't mean
that it's for you, as it does have a rather steep learning curve, however,
it is THE programmer's editor.
Greg
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a full-featured yet easy to use text editor to
> replace Notepad. Ideally, I would like a tool that is cross-platform
> or has versions for Win98 and Linux. The main platform requirement
> would be Win98 and the nice-to-have platform is Linux.
>
> There seem to be a plethora of choices that might work:
> UltraEdit
> TextPad
> EditPlus
> WinEdit
> Multi-Edit
> Zeus
> CRiSP
[snip]
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Greg Copeland, Principal Consultant
Copeland Computer Consulting
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