Linux-Advocacy Digest #490, Volume #33 Tue, 10 Apr 01 16:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Bill Gates Gets Hacked!! (GreyCloud)
Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Windows in space...... (GreyCloud)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Sam A. Kersh)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Sam A. Kersh)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Sam A. Kersh)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (GreyCloud)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (John Hawkins)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (GreyCloud)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bill Gates Gets Hacked!!
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:12:29 -0700
Roberto Selbach Teixeira wrote:
>
> Don't you think you could have chosen a better place to post this kind
> of information? This is a Linux advocacy newsgroup and this has
> nothing to do with it.
>
> And I am not even starting to argue about your misuse of the term
> "hack"
>
> --
> Roberto Teixeira.
>
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Viagra Sale Cyberprank
> > Angers Bill Gates
> > by Andy Soltis
> > http://www.nypost.com/
> > 4-9-1
> >
> > A young British hacker obtained Bill Gates' credit card number and
> > used it to order Viagra sent to the software czar in an effort to
> > show how vulnerable the Internet is, it was reported.
> >
> > Raphael Gray, 19, was arrested by FBI agents and British police in
> > his Welsh hometown of Clynderwen and will be sentenced for unlawful
> > hacking later this month, The Sun of London reported.
> >
> >
> > Gray said he sent Microsoft an e-mail, warning it that cybercrooks
> > can obtain the credit card details of people who shop online.
> >
> > When Microsoft showed no interest, Gray, then 17, decided to "do
> > something that might grab their attention."
> >
> > He said he broke into customer databases of dot-com firms and found
> > Gates' credit card number in one of them.
> >
> > Gray ordered the male potency drug sent to Gates at Microsofts'
> > Redmond, Wash., headquarters.
> >
> > "I wanted to prove a point," The Sun quoted him as saying.
> >
> > "I sent Bill a lot of Viagra and I was disappointed not to get a
> > thank you note for demonstrating the insecurity of the site."
> >
> > Gray also posted the credit card number of Gates and 23,000 other
> > people on his own Web site.
> >
> > Gray was questioned for 14 hours and ultimately agreed to a plea
> > bargain.
>
> --
> Roberto Selbach Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Conectiva, S.A. http://www.conectiva.com
>
> When bored with life, try Vi and experiment suffering.
This is the place... if you had read the article closely, you would note
that the point of it is this: Microsoft servers are not SECURE!
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:20:07 -0500
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> * Have You Heard...Compaq has been left red faced by a defacement
> double whammy as two of its sub domains were vandalized by two
> different hacking groups?
> Publication: vnunet.com
> Issue Date: 22 March 2001
> Title: Compaq Websites Suffer Double Hack
> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1119535
>
> This was the article.
The article doesn't seem accurate.
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com+
Shows that on March 25th, the first site was running on Compaq Tru64 Unix,
and only switched to NT4 sometime in the last week or so.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows in space......
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:20:42 -0700
Patrick McAllister wrote:
>
> I thought it might be a "new" OS they wrote with what looked suspiciously
> like code that was...oh....say stolen from M$ a while back....
>
> Just kidding of course, but didn't a lot of fingers point to Russia when M$
> was cracked?
>
> "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:03:19 -0700, tony roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >the russian portable looks like its running nt!
> > >tr
> >
> > Nope, sorry. It's linux with KDE desktop.
> >
> >
> > >"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:53 -0400, Patrick McAllister
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >wrote:
> > >> >Probably a duplicate post, but if not, makes for a
> > >funny....kinda.....read.
> > >> >
> > >> >http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,42912,00.html
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> This is worth a short quote, don't you think?:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT
> > >> .....
> > >>
> > >> The space station, which has been operational for less than five
> > >> months, experiences almost daily computer glitches, according to
> > >> the commander's log recently published on the Web.
> > >>
> > >> Most of the problems appear to be related to Microsoft's Windows NT,
> > >> while Russian-made software seems to be more reliable.
> > >>
> > >> .....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
Could be, but the gist of the story was is that it works... couldn't be
NT as is tho.
If the Russians did manage to clean up all the bugs then Bill better
hire them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:22:56 GMT
Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
>> Goldhammer wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
>> > Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
>> > >the economy,
>> >
>> > Hmm. Sounds like communism.
>>
>> Precisely.
>>
>> Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
>
>And Capitalism has state-directed controls on the economy too.
True capitalism is a laize faire proposition. And the prime rule is
buyer beware.
Sam A. Kersh
NRA Patron Member
TSRA, JPFO
http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/
===============================================================================
"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote
in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
-- Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minnesota)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:22:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Goldhammer wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
>>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
>>> >the economy,
>>>
>>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
>>
>>Precisely.
>>
>>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
>
>bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
>communism. They have nothing in common.
both are built on state control of the economy and setting certain
groups up as elitists leaders. Germany had Hitler; Italy has Mussolini
and russia had Stalin.
The depths of silverbacks ignorance is amazing... Can't help but wonder
if he's a closet commie. Look at his diatribes on capitalism and
backing of redistribution of wealth aka "welfare."
Sam A. Kersh
NRA Patron Member
TSRA, JPFO
http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/
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"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote
in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
-- Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minnesota)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:22:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:23:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
>wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:03:26 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>>> and yer fucking nuts.
>>>>> and that is beyond any doubt.
>>>>
>>>>Translation: Sliverdick has been beaten. That's why he's not resorting
>>>>to personal attacks to the exclusion of arguing the facts.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >If not, then it ain't fascist.
>>>>>
>>>>> fascism has nothing to do with socialism fuckhead. Fascism is based on
>>>>> corporate rule and capatilism.
>>>>
>>
>>>>Only in your twisted mind. Under capitalism, all businessmen are free
>>>>to conduct business in a free market. Under Fascism, small businessmen
>>>>are only allowed to operate with the permission of the big businessmen...
>>>>therefore, Fascism is NOT capitalism.
>>>
>>>too bad you forgot to mention the fact that it was the large
>>>corporations that wrote the laws under the Nazis. It is capatailism.
>>
>>the Nazi or Natioalsozialistishe Partei was formed in 1919 was
>>originally part of the National Socialist German Worker's party;. It
>>was founded on fascist principals, not capitalist. When Hitler took
>>over the party in 1921, they quickly moved to place all industry,
>>established the "superiority" of certain social groups (Can you say
>>"Final Solution," silverback?) and the supremacy of Der Fûhrer..
>
>wrong again liar. Fascism is corporate rule. The Nazis allowed the
>corporations to write the laws.
>
Doing your algore imitation and saying it's so doesn't make it so.
Nazism is fascist, and not capitalist. All is under the state control.
The depths of silverback's ignorance is truly awesome..
Sam A. Kersh
NRA Patron Member
TSRA, JPFO
http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/
===============================================================================
"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote
in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
-- Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minnesota)
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:24:38 -0500
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You mean *now*, right? Windows "media player" (boy, they have some
> > brilliant names: Word, SQL Server, Management Console, etc.) already
> > has code in it that does this.
>
> It's a specific Mafia$oft marketing tactic...use the most generic
> term possible as the PRODUCT NAME.
Actually, I think it reduces consumer confusion about the product. Ask
anyone on the street what Tivoli is, then ask them what a "Management
Console" is. They probably won't know either, but they can make a guess at
the second.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:28:07 -0700
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > "Mike4#@#" wrote:
> > >
> > > You guys are really amazing. a typical linux responses.
> > >
> > > Theories abone theories and steps and explanations of the
> > > process and pointers to documenations and why one needs to
> > > do this and that to make it work on linux.
> >
> > You see, that is one of the reasons why people link Linux and the Linux
> > community because there are a lot of helpful people. And you should also
> > be even more surprised that information comes up in an advocacy group
> > rather than a help related group. Doesn't that say something?
> >
> > > Yet, you are all missing a very simple fact the original poster
> > > pointed. Which is, one on windows does NOT have to do any of this.
> > > So, for a user, windows is better in this case, becuase one will
> > > stick the CD in and it just works. I have a CD burn software (comes
> > > free), and on the same PC, on widnows, I never had to tell it anything,
> > > I click on the icon, the software comes up, I put the blank CD in,
> > > and click 'write CD' and it just WORKS! amazing, I did not even
> > > have to compile windows NT, but how that is possible?
> >
> > Well - yes and no.
> >
> > You want the technical? Ok then. Actually Windows follows very much the
> > same process as Linux does, except for some semantics. The modules we
> > refer to are software device drivers which link to the kernel in order
> > to get your IDE writer to work. Under windows a "module" is called a dll
> > and performs the same function. Windows does not come with the
> > capability to burn cd's out of the box. That is why when you buy you cd
> > burner you get the install disc that contains some Adaptec burning
> > software. The software installs not only the burning program, but also
> > crucial kernel modules that allow windows to actually use the program.
> > That is why you then need to re-boot after the install before you use
> > the software (so that windows can register the dll's).
> >
> > The difference?
> >
> > a) Packaging : the windows version comes on a nice CD with a simple
> > setup.exe
> > b) Semantics : windows see devices differently
> >
> > So, therefore as I hope that you can see, Linux could actually operate
> > in the same way given the correct modules and a clever script.
> >
> > Why is there nothing at the moment? No one has built it. Sorry. You see
> > sometimes because things can be done, people don't think of making them
> > easier.
> >
> > Of course as other posters have correctly pointed out, many modern
> > distribution will already AUTOMATICALLY detect and configure your burner
> > for you. So there you go: things are improving.
> >
> > So as you can see the two worlds are not that different.
> >
> >
> > > boot to linux, and the user has to re-compile the kernel, make
> > > symbolic links, remeber is it /dev/sr0 or /dev/scd0 of what the hell
> > > it has to be, edit lilo.conf, do this and that, and hopefully it
> > > will work.
> > >
> > > do you guys even see the point here?
> > >
> > > probably not. You all have your thick blinders on, running around
> > > feeling so smart becuase you have to type 20 commands and compiler
> > > the kernel to get something to work, which on windows works without
> > > doing anything.
> >
> > See the part about auto detection.
> >
> > > But for the linux crowds, if something works very simply, the users
> > > must be dumb. It must be hard to configure, else it is not cool.
> >
> > Speak for yourself. I tend to like not wasting time. That is why I am
> > very annoyed that my QuickCam is not working under Windows even after I
> > re-installed windows. The installer had crashed and now something is
> > wrong - but as it is all automated I have not got a clue what went wrong
> > or how to fix it other than re-installing windows again, which I do not
> > relish.
> >
> > > what a pathatic world you guys live in.
> >
> > If a pathetic world is where good people help each other by writing
> > software that is open and free to be examined, improved and used and
> > people help each other solve the technical problems that arise in a
> > giving way : then let me live in my pathetic world any day rather than
> > yours. You are so full of hate and spite that I don't think that you
> > could ever appreciate the fact that in some places people actually
> > _help_ each other. It may not always be _easy_, but the best things in
> > life often are not. What is true is that from nothing, zero, talented
> > coders have created a whole free system with which we can use almost as
> > easily as the mutli-million $ industry software. I am sorry if you think
> > that this is "pathetic". I think that it is wonderful and every day I
> > learn something new. What a great "pathetic" world I live in and may I
> > contribute back to this "pathetic" world with the knowledge that others
> > have provided me without payment or in many cases thanks. I like this
> > world. It is a nice world to live in. It is a community.
>
> We really, _really_ need a linux anthem. This posts positively begs to
> be concluded with it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Karel Jansens
> ==============================================================
> "You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
> ==============================================================
Maybe the Tux logo can be changed to show Tux with an outstreched wing
(?).
Saying "Let us help you make the transition to Linux". Or something to
that effect.
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Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: John Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Apr 2001 15:28:21 -0400
Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Agreed. I'm still trying out the various linux editors and haven't
> settled on a particular one yet. So far most seem more than adequate
> to the task. It's incomprehensible to me that someone would pay $300
> for a single-platform closed-source programmer's editor, when there
> are so many good multi-platform open-source editors to be had for
> free.
That's why I never look further than .*emacs and .*vi.* for my editing
needs. I'm frequently tempted to go shell out 300 bucks for slick
edit or whatever, or try out one of the nice, but lesser known, free
editors out there. The problem is I cannot count on those editors
always being there in every sense. Both vi and emacs have a huge user
base, and open code, so I know they are ALWAYS going to be around, and
they are never going to cost me a red cent. If I felt vi or emacs
were lacking in functionality, then the masses be damned, I'd go do
what worked. But they're not. They are useable (though not
necessarily always an HCI researcher's daydream). They do EVERYTHING
under the sun, and if they don't do what you want, you could always
invest a week to fix that in the macro language of the day. And they
are ubiquitous. As Bill Cosby says, "I told you that story so that I
could tell you this one:"
Another point which *I* find important, but never comes up in explicit
discussion, is open support. This works two ways. The obvious point,
which IS occasionally brought out, is that groups exactly like this
one exist. So you can get help if you need it.
But there's another piece to this. I really like the fact that the
more I learn about emacs and vi, the more valuable I am to my friends
and co-workers as a resource. If you happen to be in a lab where
everyone uses, say, multiedit, and you just know multiedit inside-out
and upside-down, well then bully for you. Otherwise, you're 'that
whacko who does his own thing, and seems to get a lot out of his
editor...god knows how.' I place a lot of value on being able to
offer directly relevant advice to other people. A _lot_. If someone
sits down next to me to work, and wants to know how to get a lot of
work done in a hurry using a text editor, I can give them 8 ways to do
any given thing, all of them free, all of them IMMEDIATELY accessible
via the web, and all of them functional on every platform under the
sun. ::blushes at accidental pun:: That's not a 'nice bonus.' On the
contrary, it's part and parcel to my choice of editor. I'd love to
get some of the benefits of the nice proprietary editors like
slickedit at my fingertips, but once I invest myself fully in
something like that, a lot of my advice to the guy sitting next to me
has to start out, "You got fifteen twenties on ya?" I couldn't bear
it.
Just a thought,
-John
PS Every time someone says, "gosh, y'all should try editor X, because
it can tie your shoes AND milk your cow!", I think, "gosh, I wish they
took the time to add shoe-tying and cow-milking to vi/emacs so that
the rest of us could use it...never know when I might need to milk a
cow with vim!" No, I'm not kidding. Using ridiculous examples, yes.
Kidding, no.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:54 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Remeber the amiga? wanted to copy something, copy [file] from df0: to df1: Plain
> > English.
> >
>
> Nice for newbies....too wordy for me
>
Pretty much sums it up actually. Its been a while, but in vms after the
newbie got used to the commands, we could edit a local file for that
user and shorten up the commands or make command aliases to their
liking. Usually ends up looking like UNIX in the end.
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "kirk@do_not_spam" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
> > > > > gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
> > > > > and on I went to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
> > > > > out of their minds.
> > > > >
> > > > > And before anyone tells me I am a newbie, I am not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a IDE r/w CDROM. with SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4, and KDE latest and
>greatest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wanted to burn some files into the CD (which on windows is a breeze).
> > > > >
> > > > > so I started KonCD (or whatver that thing is called that comes with KDE).
> > > > > of course , it did not see it and no reason is given. searching and
> > > > > reading I found I need to build a new kernel with scsi ide emulation mode
> > > > > (imagin if someone on windows has to rebuild windows to write a CD).
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I went through that, rebuild a new kernel, ran lilo and rebooted.
> > > > >
> > > > > now KonCD sees the device. I select the directory to write to the CD
> > > > > (why the hell it wont let one select a file, but a directory is another
> > > > > brain dead feature). So, it wrote the directory to the CD OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now another fun part starts. I wanted to read the CD. no chance. unable
> > > > > to mount the CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > tried every possible combination and device (trying to figure name of devices
> > > > > on linux is another stupid thing, why does not linux have at least something
> > > > > like 'volcheck' on Solaris?).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that's why I like Solaris 8. Everything works and is adequately
> > > > documented.
> > > >
> > > > > Then I started searching the net for clues, I found that I need to tell
> > > > > the kernel at boot up some more hint. so added the line
> > > > >
> > > > > append "hdb=scsi"
> > > > >
> > > > > where hdb is my CD drive on my PC.
> > > > >
> > > > > re-run lilo and reboot.
> > > > >
> > > > > try again
> > > > >
> > > > > mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /some_directory
> > > > >
> > > > > no luck. same erros.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have iso file system build in.
> > > > >
> > > > > try a dozen more mount commands, all the same errors. dmesg simply tells
> > > > > me I have an IO error or some other cryptic kernel messages which gives
> > > > > no clue as what to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > shutdown the PC, reboot to window, stick the same CD and it is there.
> > > > > the directory I wrote on the CD is actually there.
> > > > >
> > > > > No rebuilding kernels, no telling windows any boot parameters, no
> > > > > mounting, no trying to remember the device cryptic names. It is just there
> > > > > to use. as an OS should be.
> > > >
> > > > I think the only really good O/S will be one that can read and interpret
> > > > a persons mind and then do it. In the real world, tho, it's not going
> > > > to get easy. Try to program in Windows or UNIX... not really all that
> > > > fun.
> > > >
> > > > I hear you. VMS is just the other way around... it uses an english like
> > > > approach to the command line. Sometimes it can be too wordy.
> > >
> > > You just need to shed your linguistic bias.
> > >
> > > Not all languages use articles (like "a" and "the")
> > >
> > > For instance, most slavic langauges (Czech, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian)
> > > have *NO* articles.
> > >
> > > the construct verb noun is proper grammar in those languages.
> > >
> > > as opposed to verb *a* noun or verb *the* noun
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't believe this. why, I ask why, can't linux be as simple as windows?
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone who think this stuff will challenge windows must be on drugs, and
> > > > > I really mean that.
> > > >
> > > > Well, it can also be viewed the other way around... (win9x series)
> > > > things don't work very well in windows either. Works fine for a while
> > > > then it starts to degrade..
> > > > The biggest problem with windows after about 6 months, is that it gets
> > > > slower.. and slower...... and slower........ and
> > > > s-l-o-w-e-r................. nows thats frustration. Windows can just
> > > > drive ya to drink.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> > >
> > > K: Truth in advertising:
> > > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> > > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> > > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> > >
> > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > >
> > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > >
> > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > you are lazy, stupid people"
> > >
> > > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> > >
> > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> > >
> > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > her behavior improves.
> > >
> > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > ...despite (C) above.
> > >
> > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > >
> > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > direction that she doesn't like.
> > >
> > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> > --
> > Disclaimer:
> >
> > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> >
> > If you do not like it go: [rm -rf /home/luser] and
> > have a nice day :)
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
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