Linux-Advocacy Digest #640, Volume #33 Mon, 16 Apr 01 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Neil Cerutti)
Re: To Eric FunkenBush (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: hmm getting tired of this! (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: hmm getting tired of this! (Chronos Tachyon)
The X-Box and monopoly was: Blame it all on Microsoft (Paul Repacholi)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (John A.
Stovall)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) (Rob
Robertson)
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("JS PL")
Re: Who can help me? (Chad Everett)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Chad Everett)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Chad Everett)
Re: Microsoft: Closed source is more secure (Chad Everett)
Re: Has Linux anything to offer ? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Has Linux anything to offer ? (Karel Jansens)
Re: So much for modules in Linux! (Chad Everett)
Re: Great ESR Interview ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:55:48 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>> Assuming "libertarian" meaning "minimal enforcement to ensure everyone's
>> rights" or some such, I'd have to agree. But that's not lasseiz-faire,
>> as I understand it. (Then again, lasseiz-faire may require a minimal
>> level of enforcement as well, just to ensure no one gets swindled outright.
>> I'd have to dig deep to check this, though.)
Aaron> Considering that Jefferson was a laissez-faire advocate, and he
Aaron> wrote the constitution, which specifies minimal enforcement...
Jefferson, while a great man who contributed much, was in France
during the entire Constitutional Convention of 1787, and did not
write a word of the Constitution. His protege, James Madison, did
have a pivotal role in the CC and did keep Jefferson apprized of the
details.
Aaron> The conclusion is left as an exercise for the reader.
That your American History is as weak as most of your knowledge.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:58:13 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> Rob Robertson wrote:
>>
>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >
>> > Rob Robertson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > silverback wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:22:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > <snip>
>> > >
>> > > > >I've come to the conclusion based on silverback's posts over the
>> > > > >last year that he is a closet communist. He touts "welfare" aka
>> > > > >redistribution of wealth through "progressive taxation."
>> > > >
>> > > > sorry progressive taxation is not redistribution
>> > >
>> > > Poor Glen doesn't know whether he's a Fascist (e.g., the state take-over
>> > > of the California electricity industry) or a Communist (everything else)!
>> > > But, that's the problem with labels; a Bloody Collectivist like Glen will
>> > > twist and contort himself a million different ways in order to disguise
>> > > the liberty-destroying nature of his politics.
>> > >
>> > > What *is* happening in America today? Are we feeling the effects of
>> > > 'democratic socialism', 'liberal fascism', or something else entirely?
>> > >
>> > > From http://www.taxguru.org/politics/Commies.htm;
>> > >
>> > > COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
>> > >
>> > > Published in February 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
>> > >
>> > > Following are the ten measures needed for a Communist society, exactly
>> > > as published in the English language translation.
>> > >
>> > > 1. Expropriation of property in land and application of all rents of
>> > > land to public purposes.
>> > >
>> > > 2. A heavy progressive tax.
>> > >
>> > > 3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
>> > >
>> > > 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
>> > >
>> > > 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of
>> > > a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
>> > >
>> > > 6. Centralization of transport in the hands of the State.
>> > >
>> > > 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the
>> > > State; the bringing into cultivation of wastelands, and the
>> > > improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
>> > >
>> > > 8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial
>> > > armies, especially for agriculture.
>> > >
>> > > 9. Combination of agriculture with industry, promotion of the gradual
>> > > elimination of the contradictions between town and countryside.
>> > >
>> > > 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of
>> > > children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of
>> > > education with industrial production, etc.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > The constitution of the United States is currently an odd admixture
>> > > of fascism, socialism, and resilient pockets of laissez-faire capitalism.
>> > > It defies an easy categorization because many of the previous forms of
>> > > collectivism have transformed themselves, as these freedom-destroying
>> > > ideologies are wont to do. That is why I refer to the current structure
>> > > as 'AmSoc'.
>> >
>> > Repealing the 17th Aemendment (it took the Senate out of the hands of the
>> > state legislatures, and turned it into a super-House-of-Representatives
>> > by mandating popular elections) is absolutely essential.
>>
>> I agree, and during the Senate's disgraceful actions in trying
>> Clinton's impeachment, I'd put much of the blame on the 17th
>> for the reasons you make here.
>>
>> > When the senate was chosen by state legislatures, the Federal
>> > government was kept in check, and socialism had an insurmountable
>> > wall to overcome.
>>
>> Plus, it was an integral part of the federal plan for government,
>> that one body (the House) would reflect the interests of the people
>> and the other body (the Senate) would reflect the interests of the
>> sovereign states.
>>
>> > If you TRULY want to see an end to the leviathan Federal Government,
>> > then get the 17th Amendment repealed. When that happens, you'll
>> > see that the House of Representatives will no longer have the
>> > ability to commit such outrages such committing blackmail upon
>> > the state legislatures by holding federal gas tax revenues
>> > (earmarked for federal highways) hostage until they cry uncle.
>>
>> I don't know how far it would actually go in achieving that, but
>> I agree that it is a necessary step. Plus, Yeadon's a Communist.
Aaron> Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic vote:
Aaron> All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
Aaron> filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
Aaron> Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now.
While Yeadon is a class-a idiot, so are you. Your
totalitarian side is showing, again.
Done any more lying cowardly forging lately?
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:01:45 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>> oh you mean they couldn't cut it in a free market asshole. Remember
>> asshole it was fools like you that deregulated the market.
Aaron> Was PG&E forced to operate under price-control regulation?
Aaron> a) no
Aaron> B) YES
As they supported the partial price deregulation, I would have to
say a.
That it was a really stupid plan goes without saying. However
the history is that industry, consumer groups and the GOP governor
all supported the stupid plan.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cerutti)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:08:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles Lyttle posted:
>They do. They have enough of the market in PC chips to qualify as a
>monopoly. Intel just hasn't been caught using illegal methods to
>maintain that monopoly. Having a monopoly isn't illegal. Using some
>monopoly powers to maintain the monopoly is illegal.
Or using said monopoly power to leverage your way into a a
related market, something the DOJ was more concerned about, I
thought.
--
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Eric FunkenBush
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:13:43 GMT
On Sun 15 Apr 2001 10:45, Donn Miller wrote:
[Snip]
>
> In theory, I think C and C++ should be merged into C++.
[Snip]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
<rant mode="ha-ha-only-serious">
Haven't you noticed that C++ programs take five times as long to compile,
and the result is considerably larger? Compiling Hello, World! with gcc
yields a stripped executable size of 2984 bytes; compiling the exact same
program by giving the exact same options to g++ produces a stripped
executable size of 11660 bytes, nearly four times the size. Even with the
massive improvements from adding "-fno-exceptions" to the g++ command line,
the stripped executable still weighs in slightly larger. And don't get me
started on compile times... sometimes I get the distinct feeling[*] that C
is O(n log n) when compiling code, while C++ is O(n^2). KDE would be a
prime example, although any massively large C++ project will do. On my
poor widdle 300MHz box, almost every source tarball in KDE took between one
and two hours to compile. Is KDE really *that* big?
[*] I like to call it "blat".
</rant>
On a side note, I find most of C99 rather disappointing, for exactly the
same reasons.
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:28:57 GMT
On Mon 16 Apr 2001 03:55, Matthew Gardiner wrote:
[Snip]
> ... Also, most
> NZ'ders don't have fucking huge houses. Went to the US, and 1st the
> houses are fucking huge when compared to the likes of whats in Aussie
> and the UK.
[Snip]
An interesting note at this point is that a larger house is more efficient.
As you increase the size of a cube (r -> 2r), you increase the volume
cubicly (r^3 -> 8r^3) but only increase the surface area quadratically
(6r^2 -> 24r^2). The ratio of volume to surface area rises as you increase
the size of an object, which means a larger object can be kept at a static
temperature more efficiently. This is part of the reason why apartments
are so common -- less exposed surface area, more efficient climate control.
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:32:43 GMT
On Mon 16 Apr 2001 03:57, Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> <snype>
>
> In New Zealand, the cost of fuel is around $NZ1.10 a litre, which is
> around $US0.50 a litre. Thats including GST, road tax and ACC levies.
> How much is it in the US?
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
Here in Kansas, where gas has traditionally been cheap relative to the
coasts and hovered around US$1.15 per gallon (gallon = approx 4 L) over the
last decade, the gas prices have recently hit US$1.60/gal.
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Subject: The X-Box and monopoly was: Blame it all on Microsoft
From: Paul Repacholi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Apr 2001 21:39:35 +0800
Bernd Paysan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russell Easterly wrote:
> > I have always wondered how Microsoft can have a monopoly on the
> > Intel-Compatible market but Intel doesn't have a monopoly. I
> > guess monopoly is in the eye of the Justice Dept.
> Intel does have a monopoly (the market share of Intel compatible
> processors Intel has is still over 70%, despite of what AMD tries to
> rip out of that cake). It is not illegal to have a monopoly in the
> USA, it is illegal to leverage a monopoly in one market to gain
> monopolistic power in another market.
Isn't this exactly what the goat of Redmond are doing? Using the huge
cash reserves of windoze to bulldoze the oposition in the games
machine market? A billion dollars for the US launch for example.
So why has no one moved to block them?
--
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+61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
West Australia 6076
Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
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From: John A. Stovall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:03:26 +0100
On 14 Apr 2001 23:34:19 GMT, "Alex Chaihorsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> >
>> > Yes...the Communists believe in LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of environmental
>> > regulations on industry, with all of the economic burden which results
>> > FOR ***OTHER*** COUNTRIES....MORON.
>>
>> Well name these countries,please.
>>
>>
>> >
>
>Mathew,
>
>I do not support Aaron's choice of words and I think you present yourself in
>an honorable way, although I completely disagree with your arguments.
>However, I have to say that USSR was extremely active in promoting
>enviro-politics (Green Party in Germany was basically funded by USSR and
>they never really deny that.
If memory serves me, their support of the Greens started was part of
their propaganda offensive against the NATO deployment of Pershing
missiles in Europe.
*****************************************************
Time and death and the space between the stars
remain still larger than ourselves.
"African Genesis"
Robert Ardrey
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From: Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:19:33 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
<snip>
Re:
"Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic
vote:
All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now."
> AYES:3
> NAYS:0
ABSTAIN:1
An example of the dangers of pure democracy is all well and good,
but I reject pure democracy even if Glen advocates it and wouldn't
vote either way on the matter; there is no moral justification for
the action or the mass decision behind it.
_
Rob Robertson
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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:02:00 -0400
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JS PL wrote:
> >
> > "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
> > busniess
> > > partner...extinct!
> >
> > Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
> > Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft
Development
> > tools.
> > http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
> > Which one became extinct? Ass.
> >
> > You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
> IS that 6 million MSDN subscribers? I would say there is more Linux
> developers out there, that don't need the fancy $5000 mecharno kit to
> prove to their mates that they can program. Oh, and btw, I have a SUN
> developer connection subscription, and compared to the Microsoft shit,
> it is worth every dollar, esp the support SUN provides, real engineers
> helping programmers. Not the Microsoft help when you just have some
> half witt reading out a help file to you.
More than 6 million Linux developers! I think not. I submit that there are
not even 6 million Linux USERS!!
Linux.org claims that there are 12 million. After reading the incredible
straw grasping that is used to come up with those numbers, such as counting
documents found for Linux at AltaVista! Or,counting unique "From" posts in a
Linux newsgroup and extrapolating it out by a "wholly guessed at"
multiplier! I would guess that it's about one tenth of what is claimed or
1.2 million at most.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Who can help me?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:03:46 -0500
Quite the wrong newgroups for your question. But my take on this is:
The source code you posted does not tell us the definition for
stream_socket_info so we don't know what stream_socket_info.Addr
is. My man pages indicate that the second argument in connect
is of type 'const struct sockaddr *'
Also, you have declared readFds as 'struct fd_set', but fd_set is
a typedef and things are usually declared using fd_set like this:
fd_set readFds;
There are probably other problems too, but these are the ones you
asked about.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:31:42 +0800, ja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I face a problem about compile.
>
>%cc -o AppTest AppTest.c
>AppTest.c: In function 'Attempt Connection':
>AppTest.c:253: in compatible type for argument 2 of 'connect'
>AppTest.c: In function 'GetReturnStatus':
>AppTest.c:storage size of 'readFds' isn't known.
>
>Do you know what's wrong?
>Below is my program.
>
>#include <errno.h>
>#include <sys/errno.h>
>#include <sys/param.h>
>#include <sys/types.h>
>#include <sys/socket.h>
>#include <sys/time.h>
>#include <signal.h>
>#include <stdio.h>
>#include <netdb.h>
>#include <fcntl.h>
>#include <unistd.h>
>
>/* include files needed for "herror ()" call */
>#include <sys/types.h>
>#include <netinet/in.h>
>#include <arpa/nameser.h>
>#include <resolv.h>
>
>int AttemptConnection (ConnectionStatus)
> int *ConnectionStatus;
>{
> int Socket, I;
> struct sockaddr_in ServerAddr;
>
> Socket = stream_socket_info.Socket;
> ServerAddr = stream_socket_info.Addr;
>
>//AppTest.c:253: in compatible type for argument 2 of 'connect'
>// compile tell me ServerAddr have something wrong . why???
>// How to modify ?
> if (connect (Socket, ServerAddr, sizeof (struct sockaddr_in)) == ERROR)
> {
> if (errno == ECONNREFUSED)
> {
> perror ("INFO - Attempting connection to server ");
> close (Socket);
> if (CreateStreamSocket(I) == ERROR) return(ERROR);
> }
> else
> {
> perror ("FATAL ERROR - Attempting connection to server ");
> return (ERROR);
> }
> }
> else
> {
>
> printf ("Successful connection to %s\n", stream_socket_info.HostName);
>
> *ConnectionStatus = CONNECTED;
> return (NO_ERROR);
> }
> *ConnectionStatus = NOT_CONNECTED;
> return (NO_ERROR);
>}
>
>
>int GetReturnStatus ()
>{
> int BytesRead;
> int selectCount;
>//AppTest.c:storage size of 'readFds' isn't known.
>//How to modify?
> struct fd_set readFds;
> struct timeval timeLimit;
>
> timeLimit.tv_sec = TIME_OUT;
> timeLimit.tv_usec = 0;
>
> FD_ZERO (&readFds);
>
> FD_SET (stream_socket_info.Socket, &readFds);
>
> printf("WAITING FOR RESPONSE.....\n");
> selectCount = select (FD_SETSIZE, &readFds, NULL,NULL, &timeLimit);
>
> if (selectCount == ERROR)
> {
> printf ("FATAL ERROR - select failed in GetReturnStatus.\n");
> return (ERROR);
> }
>
> if (selectCount == 0)
> {
> printf ("FATAL ERROR - Time out occured in GetReturnStatus.\n");
> return (ERROR);
> }
>
> if ((BytesRead =
> read (stream_socket_info.Socket, &control_message, BUFLEN)) ==
>ERROR)
> {
> perror ("FATAL ERROR - GetReturnStatus (read).\n");
> return (ERROR);
> }
>
> if (BytesRead < BUFLEN)
> {
> printf ("FATAL ERROR - Read from socket incomplete!!! \n");
> return (ERROR);
> }
>
> printf ("%s for %s \n", control_message.Buffer1, WscStationId);
>
>}
>
>Thank you!
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:11:51 -0500
On 16 Apr 2001 12:14:01 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 14 Apr 2001 17:46:36 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"T. Max Devlin"
>>>>
>>>>> >The truer translation is "You shall not murder". We've been through
>>>>this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was "you shall not slay." How do you know which it is?
>>>>
>>>>Take your pick. Killing in war is neither illegal, unethical, nor immoral.
>>>
>>>And here´s something, in your own words that may clear why you are full
>>>of odorous remainders of the digestive process:
>>>
>>>"killing in war is not illegal".
>>>
>>>a) That is not true in general
>>>b) That requires some standard: "law" against which it can be declared
>>> "legal" does it not?
>>>
>>>In 3000BC, the standard included massive rape of the women of the defeated
>>>and mass sacrifices of the defeated soldiers.
>>>
>>
>>Well that's not true at all. Show us an example in 3000BC where
>>massive rape of the defeated women occurred. Since you throw
>>out such blatantly false statements as fact, everything you
>>say is questionable.
>
>Ok, before I bother doing it: are you really saying that conquering
>armies at and around 3000BC ddidn't do that?
I assume this means you have no examples from 3000BC and that you statement
had no foundation in the facts, which as I said, casts doubt on everything
that you say.
I am saying that the Israelites did not. I am also stating that you have
no evidence of any other group in 3000BC doing this either. So sure, I
am making the claim that in 3000BC, there was no "standard" that included
"massive rape of women of the defeated". If you have some evidence to
show the contrary, you still will not have shown the Israelites did this,
cause they didn't. I believe the discussion was about Jewish law as
related to murder and warfare.
>
> [- your irrelevant example from 1500BC has been snipped - ]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:12:54 -0500
On 16 Apr 2001 12:20:25 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>"Roberto Alsina"
>>
>>> How does eating fish on fridays connect to loving my neighbour?
>>
>>First, why don't you tell us all where in the Bible it states red meat can
>>not be eaten on Fridays. Then I suggest you read Acts 10:9-16.
>
>Who said I am a literallist?
>Ok, how does drinking wine on sundays express my love for Christ?
>
It doesn't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Microsoft: Closed source is more secure
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:14:13 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:58:10 +0100, pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Chad Everett wrote:
>>
>> TCP/IP sequence number guessing was laughably easy on NT for YEARS.
>> Microsoft knew it because it was reported to them very early on.
>> They NEVER fixed it until W2K came out.
>
>Didn't NT "borrow" the TCP/IP code base from someone? [read bsd]
Everybody else fixed their sequence number guessing security problems.
Microsoft did not.
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Has Linux anything to offer ?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:46:58 +0000
webgiant wrote:
>
> I happen to really enjoy IceWM, largely because the menu and the panel
> are SO easy to edit. There isn't even documentation telling you how
> to change them (other than "these text files control the menu and the
> panel") and anyone could figure out how to edit them!
>
... and for those who are allergic to long keyboard exposures, there are
those nice pointy-clicky applets, such as ICEme (for editing the menus)
and ICEpref (for everything else), so they never need to let go of their
trusted mouse (you can even call up ICEpref from inside ICEme, so one
less reason to figure out how to get an X-term running).
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Has Linux anything to offer ?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:59:00 +0000
webgiant wrote:
>
> WordPerfect8 is a kludge Corel created. IT isn't real Linux code, it
> is Windows code developed to run under a special version of WINE (WINE
> Is Not an Emulator) and WINE is known to still have some bugs in it.
>
It seems you have got WordPerfect 8 and 9 mixed up. WordPerfect 8 was
not made by Corel, but by SDC, a company composed mainly of old
WordPerfect Corp. gurus. It was a very native UNIX/linux version (from
version 5.1 for NeXT and POSIX upwards - but avoid version 7, which
sucked) and truly a dream to use. WordPerfect Office 9 was the Wine
monster Corel created itself in its infinite wishdom.
I never used the free version of WP 8, but the commercial version
installs just fine, albeit that the installation process is clearly
aimed at the more informed linux user and not the average office droid
(meaning that you actually have to <gasp!> _read_ the manual prior to
installation).
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: So much for modules in Linux!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:32:40 -0500
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:57:57 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Les Mikesell wrote:
>
>> If you need a module loaded, why don't you just add
>> insmod module_name
>> or
>> modprobe module_name
>>
>> at the point where you want it? Or rename the script so it will
>> execute later if that accomplishes the same thing? This is
>> approximately as difficult as knowing when to right-mouse instead
>> of double-click in a GUI.
>
>I moved DHCP to after the network loaded. It still loaded DHCP before
>loading the network modules.
>
This is like saying: I changed my alarm clock to go off at 8am and it still
went off at 6am.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Great ESR Interview
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:49:00 -0400
"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - Which stereotype annoys ESR the most.
I'm annoyed with ESR's answer. It would be better not to try to
politically characterize the community at all. We have varying goals
and ideals. Making a statement like "In fact, the open-source community
is more libertarian than left" serves no purpose, even assuming he had
statistics to back it up.
--
Bruce R. Lewis http://brl.sourceforge.net/
I rarely read mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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