Linux-Advocacy Digest #659, Volume #33 Tue, 17 Apr 01 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: More Mafia$oft incompetance on display.. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: hmm getting tired of this! ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Baseball ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company ("Tom Wilson")
LOCAL: Demo in Davis CA - Apr 21st (William Kendrick)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Tom Wilson")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More Mafia$oft incompetance on display..
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:42:22 -0400
Michael Vester wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > MjM wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> tony roth wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > hate to be a killjoy but another one bites the dust!
> > > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/migration/hotmail/default.asp
> > > >>
> > > >> So Hotmail finally runs (totally?) on Windows products.
> > > >
> > > > Nope...only home page and the graphical front-end.
> > > >
> > > > Whoop......de.......fucking......doooooooo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Microsoft took the damn thing over in 1997! It took them FOUR years, 2
> > > >> Operating Systems and God knows how many supporting apps to convert it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And after 3 attempts, all they've managed to convert is the home page.
> > >
> > > "The home page"? Just how many servers have they converted?
> >
> > Who the fuck cares.
> >
> > If it takes LoseDOS 5 servers to just convert the home page, that's an
> > INDICTMENT of the their product
> >
> > > If I'm
> > > reading what they're saying correctly, we're talking 5,000 servers to be
> > > converted over. 4 years? That's about 3 servers per day, ignoring any
> > > actual time spent planning, testing, etc.
> >
> > The ONLY thing that Mafiasoft was able to convert were a couple of
> > front-end web pages. The REAL work is ***STILL*** being done on Unix.
> >
> > >
> > > Okay, smart boy, how long would it take _you_ to roll out a conversion of
> > > 5,000 servers from, say, IIS+Win2K to Apache + Linux, while maintaining
> > > service for 100 million users? Let's see your deployment strategy.
> >
> > 1. Set up 25 Unix machines, all ready to roll out except for the users' data.
> > 2. RCP the data from the 5,000 LoseDOS machines to the Windows machines.
> > 3. change the entries in the DNS server.
> > 4. install Linux on the 5,000 LoseDOS servers, and donate them to schools.
> >
> > 2-month operation, at most!
> >
> If they are using Exchange server, Step 2 would require the migration of
> data from a proprietary format. That would take most of the time.
tr, sed, awk, and perl are your friends.
> 5,000
> Exchange servers for a 100,000,000 users seems extremely optimistic. Is
> there any site where Exchange server handles 20,000 users? Where I work,
> 17 Exchange servers are used for 16,000 users. About one server per one
> thousand users. Hotmail would need at least 100,000 servers. You would
> need a city of MSCE's just to reboot and apply security patches.
A couple of Sun E10000 clusters, hooked into a fleet of EMC disk arrays
could handle this all just fine. A typical elementary school gymnasium
(regulation basketball court size) should be enough room for the Suns
and EMC boxes.
>
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> <snip>
> Michael Vester
> A credible Linux advocate
>
> "The avalanche has started, it is
> too late for the pebbles to vote"
> Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:49:37 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > : Well, thats due to Aaron. Why the fuck should I spend half my time triming
> > : the post because of his (Aarons) supa-long sig. As you can see, I am now
> > : conforming to the rules...Don't beat me master, Don't beat me!
> >
> > : Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > : --
> > : Disclaimer:
> >
> > : I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell).
> >
> > : If you do not like it, go, "rm -rf /home/luser" yourself
> >
> > Lusers don't belong in /home... they belong in /tmp.
> >
> > And you call yourself a BOFH? *grin*
> I have a sybolic link from /tmp/luser into /home/luser to give them, the
> lusers, a false sense of security, hehehe.
>
That is truly evil.
I LOVE IT!
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hmm getting tired of this!
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:00:19 GMT
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <snype>
>
> Even if all this "Global Warming" was a crock of shit, I would like to
> live in a world where the streams are not contaminated with arsenic
You're falling for an old political trick designed for the 2004 elections.
If the so-called arsenic problem were real, Clinton wouldn't have waited
eight years to do something about it. It was one of those dumb things that a
leaving administration does to trip up the new one. It was designed to be
monsterously unpractical and expensive enough to leave the new
administration no choice but to scuttle it. The net result is an "issue" the
opposition can rally around and trumpet. Had Al Gore won the election, it
wouldn't have seen the light of day.
> because George dwbeya bush wants to piss in large corporate pockets.
All politicians "piss in large corporate pockets". Who do you think funds
election campaigns?
> I would also love to live in an area with out the problem of acid rain and
> thick poisonous smog hanging around the area.
It's been around ever since the industrial revolution and won't dissapear
until we go back to farming and living in small huts. Translation: Never.
Best get used to it. BTW, its' only going to get worse as more third world
countries modernize. That's one of the reasons The Kyoto Accord thing was/is
a laughable crock of shit.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:00:56 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Craig Kelley in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 05 Apr 2001 23:13:48
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Said Craig Kelley in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 05 Apr 2001 09:38:42
> >> >"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Oh, so the Rep's were the only ones honest about their dealings?
> >> >
> >> >Of course not, but at least republicans go after Microsoft with the
> >> >intent of restoring a free market, and not with some loony class-war
> >> >redistribution of wealth fanaticism.
> >>
> >> Liberals have no class-war issues; that's just the straw-man of the
> >> conservatives. Communists have class-war issues. Liberals are not
> >> watered-down communists. That is, again, just the straw-man of the
> >> conservatives. They have a lot of them.
> >
> >You say toe-may-toe, I say toe-ma-toe.
> >
> >Without getting into the particulars, both class warfare and straw man
> >classifications are subjective terms as seen through the eyes of an
> >individual.
>
> Ultimately, all terms are thus subjective, making this an unnecessary,
> and therefore dubious, point.
>
> >I would say that flaming [ie, not run-of-the-mill]
> >liberals are full of straw man arguments (such as: "republicans are
> >the party of big business while democrats are the party of the people"
> >[Barbara Striesand]), but that's probably meaningless to you. Also, I
> >would define such statements as class warfare.
>
> Actually, republicans *are* the party of big business while democrats
> are the party of the people.
No. Republicans are the party of small business.
Democrats are the party of big business.
> Of course, republicans like to pretend
> they are the party of the individual, and democrats would like to
> pretend they aren't flaming liberals. My point was that the straw men
> and class warfare of the liberals is no less nor more subjective or
> objective than the straw men and class warfare of the conservatives.
> The concept of class warfare comes from Marx, which is communism, and
> both liberals and conservatives have a very strong affinity, which both
> deny just as strongly and both are accused of by the other just as
> routinely, with communism; the democrats in the socio-economic method,
> and the republicans in the political method.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:02:09 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> <snype>
>
> Hell yes! I bloody happy. Privatisation of inefficient SOE's,
> corperatisation of government departments and State Owned Enterprises
> (SOE), and trade liberilisation, aka, we have no subsidies, no tarrifs
> on cars and selected goods, Unions can't been seen, because no one wants
> to associate with bums and low-lives. Yeap, things are pretty good,
> and hitting 3.5% growth, so I'm not complaining. oh, and bugger the
> poor people, get off your ass and get a bloody job! the whole world
> doesn't owe you a living because you are born in New Zealand.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
Damn Straight!
...now if only such sane thinking could be rekindled in America....
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:08:06 -0400
Mysterion wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Everett wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:13:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >Mysterion wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> But who the hell WANTS to live and work in Detroit?
> > > >
> > > >Great money
> > > >Low cost of living.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The same could be said for Saudi Arabia.
> >
> > Very true. Not a bad place for a non-Moslem, but only if you're married.
>
> I'd rather live in Saudi Arabia than Detroit.
The climate is definitely better (as long as you're not on the coast...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:24:10 GMT
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:REKC6.20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> > Have any of your systems ever screamed obscenities in Latin or
> > bazooka-barfed pea soup all over the place?
>
> No, why have yours? You have very strange peripherals attached to your
> machine in that case. Is the pea soup dispenser an essential item?
My systems are generally well behaved. I was simply wondering if some of
yours were posessed. <g>
I've never seen KDE do half of those things you've described. About the only
time I ever had X lock up to such an extent turned out to be flaky RAM on my
old Voodoo card. (Windows, too, started locking up whenever a game or
application indulged in heavy texture mapping at high resolutions. It just
occured more frequently under X as the overall mapping and rendering were so
much faster) Even then, telnet or ssh were functional and allowed me to shut
the system down.
Have you absolutely and positively ruled out flakey hardware of any sort?
Linux does have a very low tolerance for misbehaving and marginal hardware.
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Demo in Davis CA - Apr 21st
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:30:00 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will be holding a Linux demonstration:
Saturday
April 21, 2001
3:00pm - 6:00pm
(Yes, that's UC Davis "Picnic Day")
The demonstration will be held at:
Borders Books and Music
500 1st Street
Davis, CA 95616
Drop by to see Linux in action, try it out for yourself, and ask questions
and learn more about this awesome free operating system and our humble
users' group!
For details, visit:
http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System, and which holds regular meetings,
workshops, demonstrations and other events in Davis, CA.
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:34:53 GMT
"Henry Glenworthy" <Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9FFC6.1576$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snipped vote to execute someone named "Silverdick">
>
> What!? You don't believe in "one person - one vote", even if
> the result is the trampling of individual rights? Tsk, tsk. Shouldn't
> the easily swayed, fickle general public get to determine the fate
> of minorities it has suddenly grown to dislike? Shouldn't people
> who drive while using a cell phone and drinking their Starbuck's
> latte be shot on the spot?
Yes.
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