Linux-Advocacy Digest #830, Volume #33           Mon, 23 Apr 01 16:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Bud Frawley)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Donn Miller)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Donn Miller)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:40:02 -0400

Bud Frawley wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:08:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > >
> > > On 23 Apr 2001 11:52:21 -0500, Chad Everett said...
> > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:58:14 -0500, Bud Frawley 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:42 GMT, John Jones said...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Bud Frawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > >> > > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > >> > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > >> > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > >> > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
> > > > >> idiot.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal
> > > > >> work is a
> > > > >> > > > > > > > self
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the
> > > > >> same as a
> > > > >> > > > > > man
> > > > >> > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > J
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
> > > > >> pay.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in
> > > > >> early,
> > > > >> > > > > or staying late, as needed.  Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > >> > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > >> > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > >> > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > >> > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin
> > > > >> got
> > > > >> > > > promotyed to manager in his company  he showed me the pay list! there
> > > > >> was
> > > > >> > > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour
> > > > >> when
> > > > >> > > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not
> > > > >> fair
> > > > >> > > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no
> > > > >> way.
> > > > >> > > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> > > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
> > > > >> > > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Men show up for work more reliably.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time cards
> > > > >> > because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
> > > > >> > somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my boy!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for when
> > > > >> > it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
> > > > >> > pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
> > > > >> > > group penalties as well.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
> > > > >> > > to accept $9.00.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or they
> > > > >> > get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
> > > > >> > support a family!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears THAT"S
> > > > >> > ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass farm!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > All this displays is that most women are exceptionally poor
> > > > >> > > negotiators.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > care to provide a cite? I guess not!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > So of course, they have to get a law passed to protect them, because
> > > > >> > > they are so strong, and equal.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > if men were paid less then women they would pass a law so fast it would
> > > > >> > make your head spin!
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> They already did - It's the Equal Pay Act of 1963.  It prohibits paying
> > > > >> people less for the same work becasue of their sex.   Tell your cousin about
> > > > >> it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >another republiCON moron which think's when a republiCON is in the white
> > > > >house all laws for equality are all enforced! I guess you did'nt read my
> > > > >post or you would of known they offerred him a bribe to keep quiet! I
> > > > >guess you think they would do that if it was legal! to bad they do'nt
> > > > >care! they pay less to women ! what part do'nt you understand? moron!
> > > >
> > > > This is a lie and you know it.  We're still waiting for you to tell us
> > > > what newspaper to look for this in when it "hits the papers".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I guess you'll just have to wait but it'll be a LOT of them I can tell
> > > you that much! I hope you like egg on your face because that's what your
> > > gonna have! LOL!!!!!!!!! my cousin said they usually pay BIG BUCKS for a
> > > story like this! I have to get a lawyer first because my life is'nt gonna
> > > be worth a plug nickel after this one breaks!
> >
> > So you admit that you are insane.
> >
> >
> I guess you just proved whose the biggest dumass goin! it's not me I can
> tell you that much!


Bud, you wrote in the paragraph above:
> > >                I have to get a lawyer first because my life is'nt gonna
> > > be worth a plug nickel after this one breaks!

Thus, you just said that you endangered your own life, for nothing better
than the purpose of a USENET argument.

That, dear friends, is insane.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:39:49 -0500

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:22:44 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> jet wrote:
> > 
> > Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
> > idiot.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal
> > work is a
> > > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the
> > same as a
> > > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
> > pay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in
> > early,
> > > > > > or staying late, as needed.  Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin
> > got
> > > > > promotyed to manager in his company  he showed me the pay list! there
> > was
> > > > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour
> > when
> > > > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not
> > fair
> > > > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no
> > way.
> > > > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds
> > on
> > > > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
> > > > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
> > > >
> > > > Men show up for work more reliably.
> > >
> > > LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time cards
> > > because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
> > > somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my boy!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
> > > >
> > > > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
> > >
> > > LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for when
> > > it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
> > > pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
> > > > group penalties as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
> > > > to accept $9.00.
> > >
> > > thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or they
> > > get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
> > > support a family!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
> > >
> > > I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears THAT"S
> > > ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass farm!
> > >
> > 
> > When did he leave?
> > 
> > J
> 
> Oooooooooow, ppppppppppoooor pooooooooor strong victims.
> 
> If women are every bit as capable as men, then how come they can't
> negotiate their pay?
> 
> 
gawd you gotta be deaf from you ca'nt hear so well! when a woman asks for 
a raise alls they say is no way the company does'nt allow it! then what's 
she gonna do? she's luckey if they do'nt fire her on the spot! when my 
cousin owned a car dealer he tried to give his secretery a raise because 
she made more money for the company then the salesmen but he could'nt 
because company policy! his boss reamed him out for that little stunt! he 
would of fired him for sure if he did'nt just land a deal for 40 cars at 
full sticker!

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:41:27 -0400

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:23:03 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:01:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:45:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:34:40 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> >> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:03:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >Mathew wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Gunner© wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >Slavery;child labour
> >> >> >> >> >> > As opposed to a 16 yr old working at Burger King?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> A 16 year old at Burger King, where they can only work part time,is
> >> >> >> >> >> hardly comparable to 12-14 hour work days of children as young as 6.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >In some parts of the world, such work is FAR more useful to the child
> >> >> >> >> >than any high-end education (when living in a 3rd-world shithole,
> >> >> >> >> >lessons on astrophysics are....a luxery.  Food on the table is a
> >> >> >> >> >necessity.  Hope that helps).
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> There's a wide spectrum between no education and astrophysics.
> >> >> >> >> And if you work 12 hours a day at a back-breaking job when you are
> >> >> >> >> a kid, you don't get any education.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >What good is an education if you have starved to death?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The black-and-whiteness of your mind is amazing.
> >> >> >> There is a solution to this: feed the kid at (public) school.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Where does the money come from to provide this food?
> >> >>
> >> >> Taxes, of course.
> >> >>
> >> >> >You think food just appears out of thin air?
> >> >>
> >> >> Not at all, as should be obvious by the next statement.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course you would believe that kid is stealing your money.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If you can't afford to have kids, then maybe you shouldn't have them
> >> >>
> >> >> The kid is already there, Aaron. And I can afford them just fine, thank
> >> >> you very much. And I can find a woman to have them with me without
> >> >> the incentive of money or citizenship.
> >> >
> >> >Any guy can find "a woman"...if he's willing to settle for low-quality,
> >> >self-centered, conceited, narcisisstic, ill-mannered, holier-than-thou
> >> >sluts like what's offered by American society.
> >> >
> >> >I, on the other hand, have MUCH higher standards.
> >>
> >> You prefer submissive women willing to have sex with you[1]. Not
> >             ^^^^^^^^^^
> >Spot the feminist lie.
> 
> I can not be a feminist.
> 
> >Clue for the clueless:
> >Call a Russian woman submissive, and she'll jaw 1/2 way across the room.
> 
> Well, I know some russian women. They are pretty submissive.

Compared to violent Latin American assholes like yourself, I'll bet.


> On the other hand, I never mentioned her being russian. Why do you
> think I was talking about her?

I wasn't.  You were talking about women I've associated with.

Your confusion is self-induced (no surprise).

> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:41:48 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males

WesTralia wrote:
 
> I think a cursory look under your bed just might reveal a couple
> of well used bicycle tire pumps.

...along with one Windows 98 install CD and one retail version of
Netscape for Windows 98 on CD.


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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:42:42 -0400

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:24:38 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:03:29 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:49:05 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >taking random, unrelated snippets out of context is not victory.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is fun. Fun is a small victory.
> >> >
> >> >So, Roberto, have you stopped raping your daughter?
> >>
> >> Fallacy of false dichotomy.
> >
> >Bzzzzzt! wrong.
> >
> >If it's a false dichotomy, then surely you can tell us what the dichotomy is....
> 
> Bzzzt. Not everything is a dichotomy.
> In this case, in particular, you are presenting something that is NOT
> a dichotomy as if it were one. That's why it's a FALSE dichotomy.

Then tell us what is the dichotomy which I supposedly presented?


> 
> Don't they teach logic in Perdue?
> 
> >> And a way too worn-out clichè.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you need to learn new tactics, Aaron. This one is stale.
> >
> >the words "false premise" means nothing to you, does they?
> 
> Well, considering I was using no false premise in the statement
> you replied to, it means "non sequitur" right now.
> 
> It also means "one of the ways in which your tactic is flawed".



Clue for the really really really fucking clueless:  I give Roberto the
Answer to the first part of the post, and he STILL fucking misses it.



> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 19:43:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:18:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:50:57 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Sadly, we have been, as a society, convinced by the men with
>> >> >> >> guns that they have a right to kill.
>>                                         ^^^^
>>                                          |
>> Aaron, follow the arrow------------------+
>> 
>> >> >> >My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
>> >> >> >and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you have lethal weapons?
>> >> >
>> >> >Because defending yourself is a human right.
>> >>
>> >> So, you say you have a right to kill, if you are defending yourself.
>> >
>> >I have a right to defend myself.  If it takes lethal force to do
>> >it, then so be it.
>> >
>> >
>> >> And you have a gun.
>> >>
>> >> Now, why did you say "I haven't been convinced that I have any
>> >> "right to kill""?
>> >
>> >Ok, let's clarify here.
>> >
>> >Having a right to kill in self defence is NOT the same as
>> >claiming a right to murder....which is what your original
>> >statement implied.
>> 
>> Read above. I meant what I said.
>> 
>> >> >> If the answer is "to defend myself", who would you be defending
>> >> >> yourself against?
>> >> >
>> >> >Violent, law-breaking criminals.
>> >>
>> >> For example, if someone was robbing your TV. The guy is there, going
>> >> off the window, with your TV in his hands. Would you shoot him?
>> >
>> >Absolutely.
>> 
>> In what way was he a violent criminal? Both hands are holding your TV.
>
>Any person who enters my property, uninvited, to steal valuable items
>from my, is automatically a DANGEROUS individual.

The guy is holding your TV in both hands. He probably has his legs straddling
the window. In what way is he a danger? Where has he been violent?

>  Burglars will use
>lethal force to prevent being captured.  Therefore, by merely decided
>to become burglars, they have automatically placed them into the category
>of violent criminal until proven otherwise.

Well, you are free to imagine all you want, but they have not.
If you shoot a burglar, that's unarmed, and who was not a danger
for you, you deserve to go to jail for murder.

>> So, you didn't mean "violent, law breaking criminals", you actually
>> meant just "criminals". Why did you lie?
>
>All criminals are law breakers, you idiot.

Yes, that's why I removed the redundancy from your "law breaking criminals"
bit. I removed the "violent" because of the admission above that violence
is not necessary for you to kill him.

Therefore, I rest my case: you called yourself idiot. 

>> >Theft is slavery.  And the proper punishment for slavery is death.
>> 
>> So, you say the proper punishment for robbery is death, by summary
>> execution, without a judge or a jury?
>
>Did I say that, or are you attempting to put words in my mouth?

Well, you say that if you see a man stealing your TV you will kill him.
Did I miss the part where you call a judge, assemble a jury, and THEN
you kill him?

You DID say that, Aaron. 

-- 
Roberto Alsina

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:40 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males

WesTralia wrote:

> Now we're getting somewhere!  You have had 15 girlfriends, lots of
> sex, but NEVER had to date these "girls".

Ah, but he doesn't mention which species these females are.  (Probably
the one that goes "baaah" and has wool.)


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