Linux-Advocacy Digest #851, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 22:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux users are crappy: a couple of examples (Dave Martel)
Another Liar ("Hullo")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM ("Garry Knight")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Things Linux can't do! ("Chad Myers")
Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Chad Myers")
Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Chad Myers")
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! ("Hullo")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:13:01 -0400
Brent R wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Brent R wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > jet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work
> > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in early,
> > > > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > >
> > > > > Unlike you, most women have *lives* outside of work, and don't want to spend
> > > > > every waking hour chasing the all mighty dollar.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, you admit that women do NOT provide equal work.
> > > >
> > > > GAME
> > > > SET
> > > > MATCH
> > > >
> > > > > J
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Aaron here (did I just say that?)... yeah I don't
> >
> > Be carefeul, Brent.
> >
> > If you pay attention, you'll discover that I'm MUCH more in tune
> > with what's really going on than what you suspected.
> >
> > > want to spend 12 hours a day at work. But I'm not going to go around
> > > whining if I get passed up for a raise/promotion. If I really want it,
> > > I'll do what's necessary... or maybe I'll decide that I'd rather spend
> > > my life enjoying the moment.
> > >
> > > Still, *modern* feminism is about whining and not really accepting
> > > responsibility for your actions. In the capitalist system you're worth
> > > what you negotiate... and we're at a point in time where women do not
> > > face widespread discrimination. There may be exceptions to the rule but
> > > by and large that's the truth.
> > >
> > > The men and women I see for the most part deserve what they are getting.
> > > Actually there was a case at my company where a guy was fired because he
> > > did what his female supervisor wanted. He did what she told him to do,
> > > she was an incompetent (who among other things wanted us to flush the
> > > operating system from the mainframe I work on... idiot) and what he did
> > > caused damage on the client's computer. She blamed him because he was a
> > > Puerta Rican, and she knew she could get away with it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Brent
> > >
> > > http://rotten168.home.att.net
>
> I never doubted it for a second and if you cleaned up your act you'd be
> a force to be reckoned with.
>
> Well, if you want to live for the moment (like I do) and not work 12
> hours a day than you'll have to live with the fact that other people
> will make more than you. I don't make as much as a dude I work with
> does, I am still a full-time student. Actually he makes about 5$ an hour
> more than me. Difference is... he gives a shit. I don't. It's just a
> place where I can go and be arrogant and obnoxious and get away with
> it... as well as pick up a check. As soon as I graduate I'll be out of
> there... while he won't. I don't complain... he makes more than me, but
> more is expected out of him.
You just haven't figured out how to make a LOT of money while
still not giving a shit.
Here's a clue: Storage Area Networks.
Light work
VERY very heavy pay
>
> *Modern* feminism is in the business of whining and complaining and
> making up crisis. Part of the romance of "living for the moment" is that
> you have to accept the consequences of it as well. Otherwise it'd be so
> easy that it wouldn't take any courage doing it... and everyone would do
> it.
>
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux users are crappy: a couple of examples
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:01:36 -0600
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:23:55 +0100, "Edward Rosten"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><snip nothing but quoted text>
>
>Ah. Another informative post from an intelligent poster.
It seems our latest wintroll got in over his head, so he's gone to
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy for reinforcements.
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From: "Hullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another Liar
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:09:45 +0100
Reply-To: "Hullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I note you are all compelled to lie and falsify postings (the below comment
attributed to me is fake).
I guess it's true - you people make things up compulsively.
"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Henry_Barta wrote:
> >
> > Hullo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It's great.
> >
> > Yes! I actually got 15 days+ of uptime on my Win2K box.
>
> Wow, not bad for what you paid for it, I'll bet...
>
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:14:16 -0400
Brent R wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Brent R wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > jet wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work
> > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in early,
> > > > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > >
> > > > > Unlike you, most women have *lives* outside of work, and don't want to spend
> > > > > every waking hour chasing the all mighty dollar.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, you admit that women do NOT provide equal work.
> > > >
> > > > GAME
> > > > SET
> > > > MATCH
> > > >
> > > > > J
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Aaron here (did I just say that?)... yeah I don't
> >
> > Be carefeul, Brent.
> >
> > If you pay attention, you'll discover that I'm MUCH more in tune
> > with what's really going on than what you suspected.
> >
> > > want to spend 12 hours a day at work. But I'm not going to go around
> > > whining if I get passed up for a raise/promotion. If I really want it,
> > > I'll do what's necessary... or maybe I'll decide that I'd rather spend
> > > my life enjoying the moment.
> > >
> > > Still, *modern* feminism is about whining and not really accepting
> > > responsibility for your actions. In the capitalist system you're worth
> > > what you negotiate... and we're at a point in time where women do not
> > > face widespread discrimination. There may be exceptions to the rule but
> > > by and large that's the truth.
> > >
> > > The men and women I see for the most part deserve what they are getting.
> > > Actually there was a case at my company where a guy was fired because he
> > > did what his female supervisor wanted. He did what she told him to do,
> > > she was an incompetent (who among other things wanted us to flush the
> > > operating system from the mainframe I work on... idiot) and what he did
> > > caused damage on the client's computer. She blamed him because he was a
> > > Puerta Rican, and she knew she could get away with it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Brent
> > >
> > > http://rotten168.home.att.net
>
> I never doubted it for a second and if you cleaned up your act you'd be
> a force to be reckoned with.
>
> Well, if you want to live for the moment (like I do) and not work 12
> hours a day than you'll have to live with the fact that other people
> will make more than you. I don't make as much as a dude I work with
> does, I am still a full-time student. Actually he makes about 5$ an hour
> more than me. Difference is... he gives a shit. I don't. It's just a
> place where I can go and be arrogant and obnoxious and get away with
> it... as well as pick up a check. As soon as I graduate I'll be out of
> there... while he won't. I don't complain... he makes more than me, but
> more is expected out of him.
>
> *Modern* feminism is in the business of whining and complaining and
> making up crisis. Part of the romance of "living for the moment" is that
> you have to accept the consequences of it as well. Otherwise it'd be so
> easy that it wouldn't take any courage doing it... and everyone would do
> it.
Modern feminism decries "the patriarchy", and then whines for
it to come back and clean up her diapers, because she still hasn't
learned to shit in the toilet.
>
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:15:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <l5a2c9.26a.ln@helix> "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> punch cards are for weenies.
>>
>> Real men use front panel switches.
>
> Screw that. I say they use soldering irons.
Quiche-eaters use soldering irons. Real programmers bite code into ROMs
with their teeth...
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:15:59 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> > > > That explanation is not open for Bill Hudson, as he rejects it when
> > > > anybody else refuses to discuss classified things.
> > >
> > > LOL!!! That's rich. Yet YOU stated YOU conducted clas ops in IRAQ.
> You're
> > > a lying "war-hero" wannabe, KuKuNut.
> >
> >
> >
> > I stated that Germans, Japanese, North Koreans, Chinese, Viet Cong, and
> > North Vietname regulars shot at American medics properly identified
> > with red-cross insignia on their uniforms, helmets, vehicles and
> > facilities.
>
> You are a pathetic little man, KuKu. A pathetic little man.
Do you agree with the observation that Germans, Japanese, North Koreans,
Chinese, Viet Cong, and North Vietname regulars shot at American medics
properly identified, according the the Geneva Convention, with red-cross
insignia on their uniforms, helmets, vehicles and facilities.
A) yes
B) no.
Choose carefully. Your credibility is on the line.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:17:07 -0400
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:9c0ph4$sid$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > 1) A winmodem that is most likely not supported under Linux
> > > > > 2) A cutting edge video card that isn't supported yet by the
> shipping
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > And that is likel to reduce the cost how?
> > >
> > > By "cutting edge" I mean new, not "high end". Many newer cards are
> intended
> > > to be low-cost solutions, such as the ones that use main memory for
> their
> > > video RAM.
> >
> > What kind of moron would want that?
>
> Anyone that buys an i810 based motherboard (and they sell millions)
Translation: millions of dumb-fuck morons.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:04:45 GMT
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9c2f03$s8k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andy Walker"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ayende Rahien wrote in message <987n3t$mki$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >>
> >>"Dominic Vernius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>> BSOD... Like 64Forth used to do on my lit'll C64.
> >>>
> >>Sure it can, all you have to do is to hack the kernel to stop it from
> >>panicing.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Linux can't crash at random every five minutes.
>
>
> bash# sleep $RANDOM ; cat /dev/zero > /proc/kcore
>
> See, Linux can do everything!
I prefer "startx".
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:06:20 GMT
"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> > Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs! After some
> > more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> > the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> > bad function was pushing an array of structures
> > onto the stack. Looking at the size of the array,
> > found it was 64 Mb!
>
> Probably need a bigger heap size, or something.
>
> > At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> > was the cause of the trouble (not to mention the
> > dumb way of allocating/using such a large buffer).
> > The code had been originally developed on a SparcStation.
>
> Sure it wasn't because your code was too closely tied-down to the
> architecture in question? Like, for example, SPARCs are big-endian vs.
> Intel, which is little-endian.
Yeah, no crap.
*** NEWS FLASH ***
Writing code that works only on 64-bit platforms may crash on 32-bit
platforms!
*** NEWS FLASH ***
-c
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:07:54 GMT
"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chris Ahlstrom"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just want to share a recent experience.
> >
> > A fellow on another project was having trouble getting this C code to
> > work. It was supposed to accept some geographical mapping data and do
> > some work with it, generating a data file. It would crash.
> >
> > Couldn't even compile this C code under the free Borland 5.5
> > compiler.... However, it would compiler with our installation of C++
> > Builder 4, which uses a slightly earlier version, Borland 5.4. We could
> > see that the code crashed at the start of a particular function. We saw
> > some odd stuff in the assembler code, so suspected a compiler bug.
> >
> > We downloaded the mingw32 version of gcc, and got the code to build. It
> > still crashed. I even went as far as to build it for Linux -- a core
> > dump resulted.
> >
> > Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs! After some more dicking around
> > with cleaning up some of the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the bad
> > function was pushing an array of structures onto the stack. Looking at
> > the size of the array, found it was 64 Mb!
> >
> > At that point, we realized that the Intel platform was the cause of the
> > trouble (not to mention the dumb way of allocating/using such a large
> > buffer). The code had been originally developed on a SparcStation.
> >
> > So, be careful about thinking PC's are the best things around, just
> > because they are much more powerful than they used to be.
> >
>
> Bad conclusion. It sounds like you might have bad code and all platforms
> except Sparc detected it. I'm not all that familiar with Sparc and Solaris,
> but I know that on AIX, if you are using threads, you can overflow the
> stack and the program just keeps on going until the thread whose data got
> zapped gets control again. I noticed that on Linux, you are much more
> likely to get a core dump right away. That makes debugging a whole lot
> easier.
<Disclaimer: I am not a professional C++ programmer>
Have you ever used Visual C++? I know you guys hate Microsoft and all, but
they have a good debugger that tracks memory overwrites. This is probably
a common thing, but if it isn't, it's still pretty cool. It would catch
this kind of stuff in one pass.
-c
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:23:48 +0100
In article <9c2k3o$nhu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Garry Knight"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <l5a2c9.26a.ln@helix> "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> punch cards are for weenies.
>>>
>>> Real men use front panel switches.
>>
>> Screw that. I say they use soldering irons.
>
> Quiche-eaters use soldering irons. Real programmers bite code into ROMs
> with their teeth...
ROMS?
Real programmers do that on _mechanical_ compters made from cast iron.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Hullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:13:30 +0100
Reply-To: "Hullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
O dear, were you beaten much as a child dude? No kidding - that must suck.
But it helps explain the wierd rant.
"Martigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:79CE6.75963$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hullo wrote:
>
> > It's great.
> >
> >
>
> This is a 'great' example of a person that has not been beat
enough in
> their childhood: That is if anybody wanted them in the first place.
>
> We should let people like this dream away in thier euphoria of the
> greatness of Win2K, since they will have to pay annual fees to keep their
> computers up and running they will-in no doubt-submit to the power of a
> tyranic software giant, Herr Gates. And while thier lives will be
glorious
> with the words "Hiel Windows, der Ueber OS." we will cower in our sewers
> dreaming of what would have been!....slap....slap....slap...DAMN IT I hate
> it when that happens. ;-)
>
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