Linux-Advocacy Digest #865, Volume #33           Tue, 24 Apr 01 05:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: What's the point (Matthew Gardiner)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1 (GreyCloud)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
  Re: Intel versus Sparc (Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)

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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:10:19 +1200

Tim Hanson wrote:
> 
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I agree with you.  I'm currently using EXT3FS 0.0.5, but it works
> > > fine.  Frankly speaking, I'm not that brave to using a 0.0.x software,
> > > esp. a kernel patch for a new filesystem.  But I was told by a friend
> > > working at Mountain View that people have been using it in daily work
> > > for a long time, and he never experience a crash of the fs module.
> > > Indeed, the code has been tested by repeatedly crashing and starting
> > > the computer by a program, and the journaling filesystem just works
> > > great.
> > >
> > Ext3fs is too little too late, the best two that have come out of the
> > wood works so far have been xfs from SGI and ReiserFS From Hans Reiser,
> > both of them show great potential, and ReiserFS is already mature enough
> > to use on servers without too many problems.
> >
> > Matthew gardiner
> 
> If you're using SuSE, you've had it available for the better part of a
> year now.  I switched my home directory to Reiser (without so much as a
> hiccup) at 7.0.

The only distro yet that has not included support for reiserfs on the
root partition has been Redhat, which is shocking to say the least.
Mandrake and SuSE Linux both support ReiserFS root partitions.  Mind
you, I have only ever used Redhat twice, then I quickly changed to SuSE
Linux. I have been using it since 6.0 and I have never looked back.  I
have never been able to see what is so great about Redhat.

Matthew Gardiner
-- 
Disclaimer:

I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)

If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself

Running SuSE Linux 7.1

The best of German engineering, now in software form

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:11:55 -0400

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 
> > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> Windows..Pffft..
> >
> > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> 
> Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing it. Your
> using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses it and
> claims he's forced to do it.
> 
> > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing accusations
> > > around.
> >
> > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> 
> SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.

Says it all, really.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:14:30 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> > > Windows..Pffft..
> > > >
> > > > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> > >
> > > Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing it. Your
> > > using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses it and
> > > claims he's forced to do it.
> > >
> > > > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing accusations
> > > > > around.
> > > >
> > > > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> > >
> > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> >
> > LOL. me, a 4 year degree vs. JS PL, a college drop out!
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> 
> No wonder you guys are MS haters. You were brainwashed for 4+
> years about the evils of Corporate america while you were taught
> archaic technology and then dumped into a Corporate america with
> no real skills, but lots of knowledge but computer systems which
> haven't been used in 15 years.

If that were the case, then we would hate Sun, HP, Oracle, SGI,
Informix, etc.

Purdue didn't say fuck about corporate vs. non-corporate stuff.

We were taught good ENGINEERING, and also how *not* to be bad engineers.

The reason I hate Mafia$oft is because all of their products
fail to pass basic design laws and  quality tests.

Hope that helps.




> 
> College... gotta love it!
> 
> -c


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:14:40 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> > > Windows..Pffft..
> > > >
> > > > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> > >
> > > Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing it. Your
> > > using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses it and
> > > claims he's forced to do it.
> > >
> > > > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing accusations
> > > > > around.
> > > >
> > > > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> > >
> > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> >
> > LOL. me, a 4 year degree vs. JS PL, a college drop out!
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> 
> No wonder you guys are MS haters. You were brainwashed for 4+
> years about the evils of Corporate america while you were taught
> archaic technology and then dumped into a Corporate america with
> no real skills, but lots of knowledge but computer systems which
> haven't been used in 15 years.

If that were the case, then we would hate Sun, HP, Oracle, SGI,
Informix, etc.

Purdue didn't say fuck about corporate vs. non-corporate stuff.

We were taught good ENGINEERING, and also how *not* to be bad engineers.

The reason I hate Mafia$oft is because all of their products
fail to pass basic design laws and  quality tests.

Hope that helps.




> 
> College... gotta love it!
> 
> -c


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:15:48 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> >
> > No wonder you guys are MS haters. You were brainwashed for 4+
> > years about the evils of Corporate america while you were taught
> > archaic technology and then dumped into a Corporate america with
> > no real skills, but lots of knowledge but computer systems which
> > haven't been used in 15 years.
> >
> > College... gotta love it!
> >
> > -c
> 
> MS provided alot of the software at the Uni, however, Microsoft was also
> used as the poster child of what happens when you don't follow the
> Software Development Life Cycle properly and try short cuts to save
> time. The whole University relyed on Unix using Samba to connect the
> Wintel clients to the server, I never had any problems the whole I was
> there was never any problems with the server.
> 
> Personally, I love capitalism, and Microsoft is living proof of what
> happens when you break the rules of the market place, you get hauled
> through the courts. Look at the UNIX market place, cut throat
> competition between IBM, SUN, SGI and UNISYS, something sorely lacking
> from the consumer marketplace.
> 
> As for your comments regarding computers systems which haven't been used
> in 15 years, what are you talking about? at Uni we concerntrated on
> C/C++ and VB, programming structure, ethics, OS's, which mainly focused
> on UNIX.  In my spare time I taught my self COBOL, which is still used
> on Mainframes, and I am gradually teaching myself Perl, Python, then
> hopefully when I have time, Fortran.

Learn Fortran.
It will only take you a week (maximum).



> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> --
> Disclaimer:
> 
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck?  Part 1
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:15:15 -0700

Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> 
> [snips]
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > > Beyond games, if you insist on running *some particular* app, you
> > > may be stuck with Windoze.  But if *any* app of a given type will
> > > suit your needs, you can probably find one or six for Linux.
> > >
> >
> > And, as noted, the old games like nethack and rogue, which can even
> > be played on a dumb ascii terminal are far more challenging.
> 
> And books are more challenging than television; yet television sets still
> sell like hotcakes.  Apparently, people are not, on the whole, satisfied
> with 1960's technology and expect a little more out of their machines these
> days.

Actually, a few TV type stores in our area went out of business and
Barnes & Nobles is getting pretty crowded these days.  There's nothing
to watch on TV.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:18:00 -0400

JS PL wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> > > Windows..Pffft..
> > > >
> > > > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> > >
> > > Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing it.
> Your
> > > using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses it
> and
> > > claims he's forced to do it.
> > >
> > > > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing
> accusations
> > > > > around.
> > > >
> > > > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> > >
> > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> >
> > LOL. me, a 4 year degree vs. JS PL, a college drop out!
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> 
> I did have a paragraph written in response to your 4 year degree bragging
> but have decided against posting it. But believe it or not the easiest money
> is found in places where 4 year degrees mean nothing.

AS a fellow college drop-out (financial reasons), I must say
that you, JS PL, are an uneducate moron, and Mr. Gardiner's
use of logic, facts, and fundamental computing principles
indicates that he is a highly qualified  authority.

Hope that helps, loser.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:31:30 -0700


Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brent R wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Brent R wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brent R wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > jet wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a
self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same
for equal work
> > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get
paid the same as
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > man
> > > > > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting
equal pay.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like
coming in early,
> > > > > > > > > or staying late, as needed.  Or going out of town on a
business trip
> > > > > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the
country (or
> > > > > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL
AVERAGE for
> > > > > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go
to the
> > > > > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unlike you, most women have *lives* outside of work, and
don't want to spend
> > > > > > > > every waking hour chasing the all mighty dollar.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, you admit that women do NOT provide equal work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GAME
> > > > > > > SET
> > > > > > > MATCH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have to agree with Aaron here (did I just say that?)... yeah I
don't
> > > > >
> > > > > Be carefeul, Brent.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you pay attention, you'll discover that I'm MUCH more in tune
> > > > > with what's really going on than what you suspected.
> > > > >
> > > > > > want to spend 12 hours a day at work. But I'm not going to go
around
> > > > > > whining if I get passed up for a raise/promotion. If I really
want it,
> > > > > > I'll do what's necessary... or maybe I'll decide that I'd rather
spend
> > > > > > my life enjoying the moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Still, *modern* feminism is about whining and not really
accepting
> > > > > > responsibility for your actions. In the capitalist system you're
worth
> > > > > > what you negotiate... and we're at a point in time where women
do not
> > > > > > face widespread discrimination. There may be exceptions to the
rule but
> > > > > > by and large that's the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The men and women I see for the most part deserve what they are
getting.
> > > > > > Actually there was a case at my company where a guy was fired
because he
> > > > > > did what his female supervisor wanted. He did what she told him
to do,
> > > > > > she was an incompetent (who among other things wanted us to
flush the
> > > > > > operating system from the mainframe I work on... idiot) and what
he did
> > > > > > caused damage on the client's computer. She blamed him because
he was a
> > > > > > Puerta Rican, and she knew she could get away with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > - Brent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://rotten168.home.att.net
> > > >
> > > > I never doubted it for a second and if you cleaned up your act you'd
be
> > > > a force to be reckoned with.
> > > >
> > > > Well, if you want to live for the moment (like I do) and not work 12
> > > > hours a day than you'll have to live with the fact that other people
> > > > will make more than you. I don't make as much as a dude I work with
> > > > does, I am still a full-time student. Actually he makes about 5$ an
hour
> > > > more than me. Difference is... he gives a shit. I don't. It's just a
> > > > place where I can go and be arrogant and obnoxious and get away with
> > > > it... as well as pick up a check. As soon as I graduate I'll be out
of
> > > > there... while he won't. I don't complain... he makes more than me,
but
> > > > more is expected out of him.
> > > >
> > > > *Modern* feminism is in the business of whining and complaining and
> > > > making up crisis. Part of the romance of "living for the moment" is
that
> > > > you have to accept the consequences of it as well. Otherwise it'd be
so
> > > > easy that it wouldn't take any courage doing it... and everyone
would do
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Modern feminism decries "the patriarchy", and then whines for
> > > it to come back and clean up her diapers, because she still hasn't
> > > learned to shit in the toilet.
> >
> > Jesus man, do you really have to be that crude?
> >
> > Be careful Aaron, not all women are like that, I wouldn't even say the
>
> I wasn't referring to "all women" is was referring to that body
> known as "feminism"

To bitter boys like you, all women who aren't submissive whores, like your
mail oder bride are "feminists".

>
>
> > majority. There is a tiny minority of shrill man-haters who make the
> > rest look bad.
>
> If a woman were getting abused by a man, and the rest of the men
> stood around, and did nothing to him....are they not guilty of
> letting him proceed with his abuse?
>
> Likewise, any woman who passively sits by, and accepts the ill-gotten
> gains produced as a consequence of the paranoid cries of shrill
> man-haters is guilty of giving tacit approval.
>
> I can name only a handful of American women who openly oppose
> the Dworkinites....not surprisingly, somewhere around 50% of
> them are foreign-born and raised.
>
> Cathy Young
> Arianna Huffington
> Michelle Malkin
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Have you ever seen numbers on how many contemporary women give a shit
> > about feminism?
>
> Any woman who is accepting the ill-gotten gains of sexist, anti-male
> laws is just guilty as those who fought to get these laws enacted
> in the first place.
>
>
> >                 The overwhelming majority couldn't care less about
> > Steinhem, because the ones that have the talent and heart to go get what
> > they want and the rest are just whiners who somehow end up in academia
> > or on the news.
>
> They don't care because they aren't the ones being suffered by
> laws which penalize ONLY men.

You are an idoit. I voted against AA.

 J



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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:17:15 +0200

Jan Johanson wrote:
> 
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> You've just revealed your age range and experience to a
>> lot of us here.
>>
> 
> Errr... yea, of course. This is my sarcastic reply to the same thing
> that happens whenever Windows advocates are treated to the similar crap
> about Dr. Watson errors ("it crashed the OS") or most any other app
> fault that seems to indicate to the linvocates that all of Windows died
> cause one application bit it. If you are not the same Chris who made
> those comments then I've misdirected my sarcasm, sorry 'bout that.
> 

Sure, sure.
Sarcastic reply.
Yeah, *very* convincing.
Yep, and earth is flat.

Peter 

-- 
A blue screen is nothing to worry about,
just press [CTRL]+[ALT]+[DEL] and format c:


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