Linux-Advocacy Digest #80, Volume #34 Tue, 1 May 01 03:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-) (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: 30 minutes later... Re: How Very Interesting! (was: bLobbi sanchez: ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (GreyCloud)
Re: Baseball ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The upgrade ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities (Norman D. Megill)
Re: 30 minutes later... Re: How Very Interesting! (was: bLobbi sanchez: lesbian
perversion archetype) (Nomen Nescio)
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Logan Shaw)
Re: Windows is a virus (Donn Miller)
Re: Microsoft and McCartheism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft hit new security 'level' :-)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:10:08 -0700
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > >
> > > [snips]
> > >
> > > "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:9c8t75$qoe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > .net, I would go for it, however, on one condition, I expect 24/7/365
> > > > uptime, and if there is any downtime, I expect atleast $100 for every
> > > > minute I cannot access my data. If my data is corrupted in anyway,
> because
> > > > of hackers, crackers etc. I expect a minimum compensation of $10,000.
> > >
> > > Sounds good. Where can I find a Linux-based server that'll host my data
> and
> > > guarantee the above repayment rates when the data isn't accessible?
> >
> > No need....the data WILL be available
>
> Really. So even if the backbone goes down, or there's a state-wide power
> outage, or an expected flash flood or earthquake or fire wipes out their
> entire installation, the data will be available.
>
> Exactly which distro of Linux claims that it can keep serving up data, when
> the media the data resides on has been destroyed? What's that sound I hear?
> Is it the chirping of crickets?
>
> I've never met anyone before who really, truly believes that computers run
> on magic.
I'm not sure if I've got the total gist of this... but the Sysadmin is
responsible for doing the risk analysis for the system. The risk
analysis is to take into account for fires, floods, earthquakes, etc.
The procedure is to have sane alternate locations of data storeage
outside the possible risk area.
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:12:57 -0400
Deborah Terreson wrote:
>
> ----------
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nomen Nescio
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > who is more likely to be a total failure with women?:
> >
> > a. a drug dealer
> > b. a dumb jock
> > c. a jerk
> > d. a criminal
> > e. a computer nerd
>
> Damn, that's cold!
So, you admit that women lie about what they truly want.
>
> Deb.
>
> >
> > best,
> > jackie 'anakin' tokeman, m.d.
> >
> > men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> > more even than death
> > - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.fan.jackie-tokeman,alt.snuh
Subject: Re: 30 minutes later... Re: How Very Interesting! (was: bLobbi sanchez:
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:19:50 -0400
Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> ondrea wrote:
> > correction there was a post I said out of politness. in fact I dont recall any
> > other post regarding. everyone knows privately I thought your stuff was drek for
> > years.
>
> that was pretty funny
Spot the admission to lying.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> LATE
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:25:34 -0700
jim wrote:
>
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Soon I will be converting my Wife's Win98 machine to Linux, however saving
> all
> > her stuff has been painfully difficult.
> >
>
> Don't worry, accidentally installing a server operating system over a far
> superior desktop operating system will surely make your wife feel all the
> better that you know SO MUCH more about computers than she does.
Trollometer reading: .2
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:21:25 -0400
Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > >
> > > t. max fagass:
> > > > Said Nomen Nescio in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:20:02
> > > > >Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eeped:
> > > > >> Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > how many retailers sell linux machines again?
> > > > >> > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > p.s. sneering & not bathing does not a viable marketing strategy make
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Only a moron would wonder about the sales of a
> > > > >> free downloadable operating system.
> > > > >
> > > > >funny, i could have sworn i saw a bunch of nerdos whining about how
> > > > >mean old microsoft was preventing retailers and vendors from selling
> > > > >machines with linux preinstalled via those mean nasty monopolistic
> > > > >agreements.
> > > >
> > > > Well, this is an 'abstraction error' on your part, hinging on the
> > > > concept of 'prevent'. It is not a physical barrier, and therefore
> > > > exceptions to its effects are not contradictory to its existence.
> > >
> > > all products face the problem of reaching the consumer. if people wanted
> > > linux they could get it.
> >
> > When OEM's aren't even allowed to show non-Microsoft system in
> > their catalogs....how then, do you posit that the average consumer
> > is going to even discover that there are non-Microsoft alternatives?
>
> walmart and blockbuster don't carry porno tapes yet somehow they make
> thier way to the consumer.
Porn dealers were in business decades before Walmart and Blockbuster.
Hope that helps.
>
> > Most consumers don't "want" windows, any more than they want a specific
> > brand of gasoline in the tank when they pick up a new car from the
> > dealership...it's simply what's in there when they purchase it.
>
> so you concede there is absolutely no consumer demand for linux?
I concede that the average consumer doesn't demand what he doesn't
even know about.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The upgrade
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:23:42 -0400
WJP wrote:
>
> On 30 Apr 2001 02:13:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:36:16 GMT,
> > Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I upgraded my 400MHz Pentium PII to a VIA system with an AMD Duron 850MHz.
> >>
> >> Windows 98 SE reinstalled everything and had to reboot a few times to
> >> complete the change over. It also sometimes crashes on shutdown.
> >>
> >> Linux SuSE 7.1 just... worked. Hey!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Pete
> >>
> >I had the same thing happen when I upgraded my mobo around 1998
> >Win98 went into 'safe' mode, and RedHat4.2 worked as usual.
> >
>
> In my experience, it is nearly impossible to move a hard drive with
> Windows 98 (any version) from one mobo/machine to another. For some
> unknown reason, it appears that Windows treats each machine like it has
> taken its "finger prints", and will not relent until re-installed and a
> new set of "finger prints" is developed. (Side note: perhaps XP is just
> further expansion on this factor.) My neighbor is setting up a 950mhz
> noname for a friend of his and is going through that same goatrope as I
^^^^^^^^
You served in Southwest Asia, too, I see.
> type this message. Yes, there were plenty of "install new hardware"
> screens, and after the three reboots and one lockup, the PC is now at a
> "dead end".
>
> And that's why I am headed toward totally Linux - change hard drives
> from one machine to another, no big deal. It works!
>
> Regards,
> Bill Powell
> USAF/USA (Ret) Management Systems Analyst
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:42:39 -0400
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 01 May 2001 00:46:46 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Richard Thrippleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Martel wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> >The register's so much fun though! Those guys write more in the
> >> >flaming spirit of Usenet.
> >> >
> >> >Whatever slant anyone puts on this story, there's still that
> >> >not-so-hidden threat that current MS customers who buy empty systems
> >> >so they can load them up with linux are risking the disruption and
> >> >possible expense of an MS audit of their Windows systems.
> >> >
> >> Maybe I'm being a bit naive/ignorant here, but how do MS have the
> >> right to inspect anybody's PC just because they bought it without Windows??
> >> I was under the impression that only the police could obtain forced search
> >> rights.....
> >
> >Typicall Linvocate/Register blow-out-of-proportionism
> >
> >Microsoft is targeting large corporations with this. If you read
> >the Register article (or news regurgitation) you'll see that it
> >is targeted towards corporations buying many computers at once.
> >
> >Since Windows is the number one desktop, a company ordering 400
> >PCs without an OS is most likely going to install one copy of
> >Windows on those 400 PCs which I'm sure you all would agree isn't
> >legal by any stretch of the imagination.
>
> The company I'm at bought 1000+ computers from Compaq all destined
> for linux installations and custom software. Not a single copy
> of Windows will touch them. What rights do you think Microsoft
> has in this case to nose around in this transaction?
I think it's a strategy for them to find out how much business
they are LOSING!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: OEM Windows licenses not transferable to charities
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman D. Megill)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 06:49:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have an OEM license handy but if it's the same then ownership
> can only be transferred once. Whenever linux users try to get refunds
> on unwanted copies of OEM Windows that came with their systems, MS
> claims that the OEM is actually their customer. So that means that the
> OEM "customer" transfers Windows to their own retail customer. If I
> read the above license provision correctly, only that one single
> transfer of ownership is permitted and the software may not be
> transferred again.
Interesting. I assume you're using '98; in '95 the transfer seems to
have no restriction so perhaps they made it more restrictive over time.
This is from the OEM License.txt for '95 (the 1000-character-long lines
are annoying to read in Notepad but I wrapped it below):
"* Software Transfer. You may permanently transfer all of your rights
under this EULA only as part of a sale or transfer of the COMPUTER,
provided you retain no copies, you transfer all of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT
(including all component parts, the media and printed materials, any
upgrades, this EULA and, if applicable, the Certificate(s) of
Authenticity), AND the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If
the SOFTWARE PRODUCT is an upgrade, any transfer must include all prior
versions of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT."
So if you sell your COMPUTER you'll have to carefully extract out all of
your personal files from the your periodic back-up tapes then destroy
them. Oops, you shouldn't have made those periodic back-ups in the first
place:
"* OEM Back-up Utility. If PC Manufacturer has not included a back-up
copy of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT with the COMPUTER, you may use the
Microsoft back-up utility, if included with the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, to
make a single back-up copy of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT. You may use the
back-up copy solely for archival purposes. After the single back-up
copy is made, the backup utility will be permanently disabled."
Now, it seems to me anyone with common sense would want to make periodic
back-ups of their COMPUTER's disk. But the license seems to say you can
only do this once during the lifetime of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, and even
then only with their "OEM Back-up Utility", which then self-destructs to
make sure you don't do it again.
--Norm
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From: Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 30 minutes later... Re: How Very Interesting! (was: bLobbi sanchez:
lesbian perversion archetype)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,soc.support.fat-acceptance,alt.fan.jackie-tokeman,alt.snuh
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:50:08 +0200 (CEST)
aaron:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
> >
> > ondrea wrote:
> > > correction there was a post I said out of politness. in fact I dont recall any
> > > other post regarding. everyone knows privately I thought your stuff was drek for
> > > years.
> >
> > that was pretty funny
>
> Spot the admission to lying.
nothing gets past you.
speaking of lying...
have you told irina that you have no intention of marrying her?
or did she dump you before you had a chance?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Logan Shaw)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: 1 May 2001 01:31:54 -0500
In article <9ckrqo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think VI and all the useless other editors are an excuse for sad little
>40-50 yr old UNIX fat tards like yourself to keep whatever "knowledge" you
>have and NOT share it with anyone
That's an interesting thought, but since vi documentation is more
widely available than ever before, I don't understand it.
I agree vi is weird and hard to understand, but that's not my problem.
Lots of good things are weird and hard to understand.
Think of vi as being like a manual transmission in a car. It requires
you to interact with the car in a way that is unfamiliar, and it's more
difficult to learn at first because it really isn't as simple to use.
Or think of it as like a guitar. Did you ever try to play the guitar?
The first several months are spent thinking, "This is stupid. My
fingers will never contort like that. People who play the guitar are
insane." But in time, it starts to make sense to you in a weird way,
and after that, you just play.
Of course, some people will never want to drive a stick shift or play
the guitar, and that's fine with me. But I like both of the above, and
using vi too.
> - problem is, with a click of a mouse your
>Gramma can send an email to her friend
She could, but when my uncle set up his old computer at her house, she
told him to come take it away, because she didn't have any need to have
a computer in her house. However, I have no doubt that if she wanted
to learn, she'd have no trouble at all learning vi. But then, I have a
unique grandmother.
> - and guess what - UNIX didn't do it!
I'm well aware that there is another operating system that is more
popular than Unix.
>A smelly Finn didn't do it!
Huh?
>It took a man that is richer than your dreams -
>it took a man that would tell you who was BOSS!
Assuming you're talking about Bill Gates, it always seemed to me like
he was fascinated with telling _himself_ who's boss. If he wants to
tell me who's boss, he can try, but the fact is that so far in my
lifetime, I have made a net profit off of Microsoft products. (Ten or
twelve years ago, I won a Microsoft compiler in a contest. I turned
around and sold it, and since then I have never bought a Microsoft
product.)
O.K., I'm getting random now, so I'll stop.
- Logan
--
my your his her our their _its_
I'm you're he's she's we're they're _it's_
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:36:19 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows is a virus
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> Well, it actually wasn't very useful until the first distribution in 1994.
Neither was Windows until Windows 95 (except substitute 1995 for 1994).
I'll bet Win 3.1 and Linux were about on par WRT quality from 1992-1994.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft and McCartheism
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 02:32:48 -0400
Rex Ballard wrote:
>
>
<snip happens>
> Microsoft probably won't dominate every market. They might sell lots
> of
> word processors, but not as many analytical tools. Microsoft has
> always
> hated "Text" tools, but often, this is the best way to transform
> information
> for use by multiple applications. Scripts, filters, and pipelines can
> be
> very powerful.
Microsoft hates plain text becuase with it, you aren't locked in to
purchasing more and more Microsoft pollutions.
>
> --
> Rex Ballard
> It Architect
> http://www.open4success.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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