Linux-Advocacy Digest #172, Volume #35 Tue, 12 Jun 01 19:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Will MS get away with this one? ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (GreyCloud)
Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Redhat video problems. (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Getting used to Linux (Charlie Ebert)
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (GreyCloud)
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows (Hartmann
Schaffer)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out!
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:59:14 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/russian/
>
> Has everything you need to know about "buying" the perfect Russian wife.
>
> These men are the hardcore losers and if you read some of the messages you'll begin
>to see why.
>
> Makes for very funny reading!
>
> Dr.
Actually, I used to date a girl from Russia several years back.
...and since then, I've never had even the slightest desire
to date another American female...too fat, too stuck-up,
too stupid, and nowhere near as appreciative as they should be.
I go out with foreign girls EXCLUSIVELY....they are usually
much better educated AND have good manners.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:59:22 +1200
> I just wish whoever writes these damn viruses would just quit or get a
> life.
> Its screwing up computing.
Hunt the bastard down, and send him to 20 years hard labour. Something the
Soviet Union did, which worked quite effectively to ensure that idiots don't
cause too many problems. But of course you would have all the constitution
wavers, libertarians, and other tosspots complaining. Maybe what the US
needs is a ruthless dictator, like Alberto Pinoche or General Tito (former
dictator of Yugoslavia) to shake some sense through the community that
acting like a dick head is unacceptable, and yes Aaron, you are on the Dick
Head list.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:01:34 +1200
What I would actually like to see is PDF replace all proprietary document
formats, so there is one, universal document format that will work on every
platform, every office suite, no matter who makes it.
Matthew Gardiner
--
I am the blue screen of death
nobody hears your scream's
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out!
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:04:05 -0400
flatfish+++ wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:20:07 -0600, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:50:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>Has everything you need to know about "buying" the perfect Russian wife.
> >
> >>These men are the hardcore losers and if you read some of the messages you'll
>begin to see why.
> >
> >Hey, let's all chip in and get Aaron one!
>
> According to one of the messages on that sorry site it cost's upward
> of $10k to buy one of these fine ladies.
Actually, I've known several Russian women living in the US...
and they are .. as you say...fine.
on the other hand... BUYING THEM...
Uh...no.
Although the Russian GOVERNMENT is uncivilized, the Russian PEOPLE
are much more civilized than most of you.
>
> I must be naive but I thought slavery went out around 1865 or so?
Actually, Slavery was legal in the US until 1867.
Russia abolished feudalism in the 1870's.
And...by the way...Russian women are *NOT* for sale (American women,
on the other hand, are extremely easy to buy. Just as Donald Trump).
>
> Is that site some kind of a joke that I'm missing or are those idiots
> for real?
Who knows.
>
> Just curious.
>
> flatfish+++
> "Why do they call it a flatfish?"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:02:46 -0700
mlw wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > mlw wrote:
> > >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is one reason to choose C over C++.
> > > > > > You can use C functions with *everything*, there isn't a language that
> > > > > > doesn't have C binding.
> > > > > > There are plenty that doesn't have C++ binding.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, but why not put those C-functions into a module and call them from
> > > > > your C++? That way you can have both.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > As an aside... I was trying to use the throw statement in g++.
> > > > It compiled correctly, but it didn't work... just got a core dump.
> > > > I wasn't able to find any references to g++ throw at the website either.
> > > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Probably because you didn't have an appropriate "catch" routine.
> >
> > Oh dear - the compiler did not catch this simple error ? Those "toy"
> > languages can. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Core dump ? Oh dear.
>
> That is exactly what should have happened. An exception was thrown and the
> program did not know how to handle it. If the same sort of thing happened in
> Java, the program would quit as well. Perl would too.
>
> A core dump is great. One can use gdb to find exactly where the program died,
> and why.
>
> gdb -core=core myprogram
>
> --
> 42 was the answer, 49 was too soon.
> ------------------------
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
I'll post it if no one objects to a sample.
I used VC6.0 and no problems with it.
I just couldn't find "throw" at Gnu.orgs documentation site.
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Order Brides? Check this place out!
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:04:40 -0400
Dave Martel wrote:
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:48:24 GMT, flatfish+++ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:20:07 -0600, Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:50:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>>Has everything you need to know about "buying" the perfect Russian wife.
> >>
> >>>These men are the hardcore losers and if you read some of the messages you'll
>begin to see why.
> >>
> >>Hey, let's all chip in and get Aaron one!
> >
> >
> >According to one of the messages on that sorry site it cost's upward
> >of $10k to buy one of these fine ladies.
>
> Yeah, we'll never get that much together for Aaron.
No need. Whenever I travel to Europe, I do quite well with the womenfolk.
>
> How about <http://www.realdolls.com>?
>
> >I must be naive but I thought slavery went out around 1865 or so?
>
> No, it's still practiced by American tech companies.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:21:48 -0400
> BTW, I never read a single Windows book. Only ones in my library are
> the ones that came with the programs, which amount to the various
> versions of Windows and Flight Simulator.
>
if you're into flightsims the I can recommend you try Flightgear
(www.flightgear.org) opensource flight simulator - available to download
for Unix ( source which compiles on Linux, BSD, Sun, SGI and other unixes),
Apple Mac (binary) and Windows (binary or source) with scenery available
to download for any part of the world.
Also I suggest reading the book 'Linux music & sound' by linux journal
press (store.linuxjournal.com) as this may solve your lack of linux music
software (includes CD of the best software).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Getting used to Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:07:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mlw wrote:
>I remember years ago when I first started using Linux. I was a little scared
>about trusting data and stuff to an OS written by volunteers, but I told myself
>I would have to go cold turkey if I was ever going to do it.
>
>That was in 1996.
>
>I have not lost one bit of data to Linux. I can count all the crashes on one
>hand. My pay scale has doubled.
>
>I will never go back to Windows.
I let Windows totally the year after you.
It's tuff to raise a family and continue to pay Bill Gates $$$
for licenses, software, new computers. He'll I was spending
over $6,000 a year on the crap. My wife wished it would
get addicted to crack cocaine as it would be cheaper for
the family as I'd die quicker.
It was at that time I decided to flush windows down the toilet.
In time, I've rid myself of every box of Windows software I've
ever had and I don't regret leaving the garbage one bit.
Then there was the work situation with NT servers. NT servers
are worthless peices of shit. Our servers would always go down
at 3:00 AM. Then I'd have to go in and spend 8 hours rebuilding
the servers. I got so angry about it I used to threaten people
not to touch the server or I'd tear their heads off and shove them
up their asses. But this idea was to no avail as the server would
just explode anytime after 34 hours of uptime anyway.
I realized there had to be a better way for
business to work than to continue to use this diahrea-ware.
And so I've been using Linux at home since 97 solely.
Debian has everything I need and it's never failed me, not
once. I have never lost data while using Linux.
It has never happened.
My uptime is limited only to the stupidity of the local
power company.
After 4 years of using Linux for a family server and a desktop,
I can say that Linux is ready to serve anybody.
And when you consider the cost of Windows, the buggyness of
Windows, the security threat of Windows, and the fact
that Microsoft is a money hungy monopoly which is hell
bent on entrapment of all the computer users of the ENTIRE
WORLD, you realise people who run windows are simply put,
brainless dumbshits....
I mean their totally clueless.
Thanks
--
Charlie
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:06:44 -0700
pip wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
> > Perl, Java, and the like are the equivalent of programming for dummies. They
> > are languages with training wheels. The kiddie coaster of programming. The
> > sandbox, if you will, in which newbe programmers play until they want learn how
> > to be real software engineers.
>
> This is an utterly stupid argument. That is why we have so much crap
> unreliable software out there. Grow up!
>
> You are not clever because you understand pointer arithmetic or can
> remember to de-allocate memory. This is like the assembler/c debates.
> sad really.
>
> Most of the clever "real software engineers" relaise that what you are
> saying is rubbish.
>
>
> > I know that is an outrageous opinion, and it is extreme for the effect, but it
> > has elements of truth. One can not write a device driver in perl. The JVM can
> > not directly access I/O ports. These are examples of what software engineers
> > should understand.
>
> Please explain - can you say JNI ? Or are you speaking from a point of
> knowledge or preconception ?
>
>
> > Try writing a file compression utility in java. Now write that same utility in
> > C or C++ using all the nice features that C and C++ have. The function
> > mmap(...) can make the whole compression chore as easy as rifling through a
> > buffer. There is no comparison, the C or C++ code can be so much fatser and
> > require fewer resources, than the equivilent in Java or perl.
>
> Really? Try looking in the Java API - there is already one there so you
> don't need to waste your time. If you choose to waste your time you will
> find the performance near C for these type of non-gui operations. Also
> if you need to you can call nmap() you can (if you really want to
> sacrifice portability for performance). But then again, you can live in
> denial if you want to, that's up to you.
>
>
> > Why would one use Java? Why perl?
>
> Because people are clever.
>
> Why not just stick to flipping switches to get your binaries in the pc ?
> What - you are not "clever" enough to do this ? Dear me, go figure.
>
> Arguments and attitudes like this make me SO sad and MAD, and reminds me
> that software engineers need to GROW UP in their attitudes and take a
> cold hard look at what they do and WHY they do it. Insulting two main
> stream capable languages is not a good start to this process. As a C
> coder and a Java coder - I know which in the language I prefer. It's
> actually a no-brainer. But then again, I've invested some time actually
> learning all this stuff to be able to draw a sensible conclusion for
> which tool is appropriate for which task and then using that tool to
> best effect.
>
> There is no one good universal language - face it.
True enough. Back in the 80's I had three languages installed on a VAX
and sometimes mixed the three together to get good results. At least on
a VAX I could link these object modules together without any hassles or
tricks.
--
V
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:08:50 -0400
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
Dear Jan,
We have no interest in hearing about your disappointment of the
anus-reaming you recieved last night.
Hope that helps.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:09:33 GMT
In article <3b26471a$0$263$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Johansan wrote:
>http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=21403
>or
>http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2772060,00.html
>
The win-in-formant? You want us to read a windows based magazine?
>But they both say the same thing:
>Gartner Dataquest has reported that 8.6 percent of server shipments in the
>U.S. during the third quarter of 2000 were Linux-based and 97% of those were
>Red Hat. Another interesting finding was that when so-called "white box," or
>non-branded, server purchases were excluded and only branded server
>purchases considered, Linux's share of the market fell to just 6 percent in
>the third quarter of 2000.
>
>IDC claims a higher figure in previous reports, 27%. But IDC considers ANY
>PC which has Linux installed on it a "Server Environment." Obviously that
>stretches the definition a bit.
>
>Yes, I know the study was partially sponsored by MS (someone has to pay for
>these things) so please don't fire off stupid replies implying that MS
>purposely contaminated it's own results by 'buying the study' - that's just
>preposterous. Consider when car companies pay someone like JD Powers to
>guage customer satisfaction - the company that paid for the survey does NOT
>always come out on top and that's why people trust JD Powers. Same for both
>IDC and Gartner. They are paid by _someone_ to find something out. If the
>results don't go your way then, sure, it's ok for you to not publish them
>(Ford pays JD Powers to find out if people like the Explorer and it turns
>out they don't - no need to buy Superbowl time to advertise that - but if
>they did like it, of course you advertise it - it's normal and is done all
>the time). So, ahead of time, ANYONE who says "MS paid for it therefore they
>said whatever MS told them to" is automatically defined as an idiot and
>mindless so don't fall into that hole oK?
>
>Further Quote: [Donn] Miller [of MS] told eWEEK that Microsoft had helped
>sponsor the study to see exactly who was using Linux, what the server
>deployments were and what operating system was running on it.
>"There has been a lot of hype around Linux over the past year, and we wanted
>to try and find out the real story on its adoption," he said. "While I admit
>there has been interest in Linux, this by no means accounts for one out of
>every four new servers sold. That is simply ridiculous."
>
>The study results prove that Linux on the server side is still "just a niche
>play," Miller added. It's unrealistic to look at sales numbers and believe
>that all of these are being deployed. While many users have bought Linux to
>try it out, a large number of those copies bought, downloaded and acquired
>were tested and then never actually used, he said.
>
>"Many of our customers have tested it, but found that it falls short of what
>is required for a business server platform," Miller said. "Windows has good
>penetration on the server side, but the misstated Linux market share figures
>unfairly present the actual position of Novell and others rather than us."
>
Nope! Not buying. Thanks anyway.
--
Charlie
=======
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: 12 Jun 2001 19:09:59 -0400
In article <9g657c$7ca11$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nigel Feltham wrote:
> ...
>The other motivation was that he was working on the Bell Labs MULTICS
>operating system project and found so many problems he thought he could
>write something better by staring it again (the original name for unix was
>unics as a parody of multics) - similar to the motivation linus had for
>writing linux.
you got most of it wrong: multics was a cooperation between mit (afaik they
started it), ge's computer division (later taken over by honeywell), and
bell. ritchie was with bell's group at mit. later bell cancelled their
participation and withdrew their team to their labs in new jersey. unix
is based on their multics experience, taking the capabilities of (much)
smaller hardware into account
--
hs
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