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OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?) ("Stephen S.
Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags ("green")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? ("green")
Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)")
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux starts
getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (Chris Street)
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: The point of all of this... (was Re: Where is American pride?)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:48:46 -0700
"Stephen Cornell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If it wasn't for the U.S., Adolf and
> > Hirohito would have wiped your country
> > off the face of the Earth.
>
> Right. And, if the Brits hadn't sat tight on their own against the
> Axis for two years, while the US stayed out of the conflict until the
> Japanese attacked them, then Europe would have been overrun by the
> Nazis. Do you have any idea of the pounding that Britain took, and
> the bravery required to hold a much stronger enemy at bay?
I have no idea, because I wasn't there. But you
must understand, I'm not picking on anyone in
particular. I'm talking about Europe in general.
France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Poland... they
all fell like dominoes, because none of them
wanted to "deal" with it. Since the Brits were
demolished, it was left up to us.
And for the record, I would consider anyone who
was actually in the fighting to be brave. The
main people I'm picking on here are their
respective governments.
> > Why does everyone keep talking about how the
> > Soviets defeated the Nazis? That's utter
> > bullshit. The Soviets spent more time shooting
> > their own people for cowardess and treason than
> > they did killing Nazis.
>
> No-one is claiming that. What they're saying is that the Soviets
> managed to occupy a significant fraction of the Axis's resources, and
> this weakened the enemy.
Not nearly enough to stop them. That is my point.
I'm not trying to brag about something I had nothing
to do with. What I'm pointing out is how the apathy
of the European nations got them into deep caca.
The same apathy that has been displayed here for the
past few days.
> > The fact is, if Europe hadn't dragged us into
> > their little conflict, they would have been
> > overrun. They were in quite poor shape once
> > we got into the game. From that point, we
> > called the shots, and kicked 3rd Reich ass.
>
> You accuse others of being ignorant and arrogant,
> and yet you come out with this crap. You really
> have no clue.
Calm down.
If you'd bother to try to understand what I was
saying, you'd understand that I was merely stating
that if Europe had dealt with the Nazis and the
Japanese Empire the way that they should have, we
wouldn't have gotten dragged into it at all. It
was their mess... they should have dealt with it.
8<SNIPPED blatant miscomprehension>8
> > But too many Euros have far too much ego
> > to admit that someone else actually saved
> > their asses.
>
> No, most `Euros' are very well aware of the major role played by the
> US in rescuing us in WWII. What pisses us off is the revisionist
> picture you paint that somehow you did it all yourselves.
And exactly where did I state that? All I'm saying
is that because you people didn't band together, you
ended up letting your fellow nations get fucked.
8<snipped angry blithering>8
> > Really? How long have you lived in the U.S. yourself?
> >
> > Tell me, how is it that you can know about every
> > single person here, what they think, and how they
> > feel... you must be Jesus Christ returned.
>
> Can't speak for Matthew, but I lived for a year in Canada, with
> frequent trips to the US. The level of ignorance and
> small-mindedness, even among the educated classes, was frankly
> appalling. Even Britain does better in this respect.
>
> Finally: don't get me wrong - I don't hate Americans or the US. There
> are many things about the US and about Americans that I admire. It's
> just absurd when Americans accuse Europeans of being clueless about
> the rest of the world.
I wasn't accusing anyone of being clueless about anything.
In fact, IIRC, you accused me of being clueless, simply
because you misunderstood what I said.
This whole thing was started, because some worthless
flunkie by the name of drsquare stated that patriotism
is worthless. If the European nations were patriotic
at all, and banded together as one land of continents,
they would have stopped the Nazis and the Japanese
without any help from us easily.
IOW, it was a lack of patriotism (ie: the love for one's
country and its ideals) that put Europe in the shitter.
How much clearer can I possibly make this point? Is
everyone here fucking stupid or something or are you
all so full of bitterness that all you can do is
throw a temper tantrum?
I never said I hated Euros, or that I don't value them.
I just hate their apathy, and their seeming lack of
patriotism for themselves and their sister continents.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:51:21 -0700
"Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Stephen S. Edwards II spouted:
>
> >The fact is, if Europe hadn't dragged us into
> >their little conflict ..
>
> The Japs. The Japs brought the US into WWII.
> What's the matter, don't you go to the cinema?
Perhaps that was poorly worded. As I said in
my reply to Steve, if Europe had banded together
properly to face off against the Nazis, they
would have squished them instantly. Japan never
would have been influenced to attack us, and
we wouldn't have gotten dragged into it in the
first place.
And as for Pearl Harbor, I have no interest in
seeing Hollywierd's interpretation of events.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:18:14 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > The Conservative's had a crushing defeat :) well, it definately shows
> that
> > > the British public aren't about to be sucked into the "lower tax" hype
> > > created by the Bush admin. in the US. Well, hopefully Tony Blaire's
> second
> > > term will be a good one. Oh, also, what's even better, we know who
won!
> > > unlike the US election that just dragged on and on. Mind you, I never
> > > followed it, esp. when a nation that preaches democracy doesn't
practice
> it
> > > when election time rolls around.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Talk about keeping your head in your own little world. You don't
> > know the first thing about American Democracy. That election fiasco
> > was an example of how firm and solid the American democracy is and
> > how it can withstand the challenge of corrupt officials (Gore, Clinton)
> > and an attack from within.
>
> Well, for 500 years, Britainnia has never had that sort of issues to worry
> about. New Zealand, that hasn't happened. I think it happened once in
> Australia, but the governor general desolved parliament and there was a
> re-election.
>
> Also, we all know what American Democracy = Large corporations using
parties
> to push their agenda.
Oh God. Another "waaaah! They have money, and I
don't! It so unfair!" type of person.
Competition is the essence of capitalism. If you
can't handle it, then that's your problem. But
most people, when competing, feel like they are
accomplishing something (and they are). Competition
is the ultimate high for people of any culture.
And if I have the desire, wherewithall, and ability,
I can found one of those large corporations, as can
ANYONE here.
Look at Microsoft... people like you hate them, because
they were simply skilled and smart enough to rise to
an unprecedented position. Personally, I think Microsoft
is a testament to the American will, and capitalism.
Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing, of course,
depends upon your POV.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:19:55 -0700
"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> YATY = Yet Another Typical Yank
>
> You have now been kill filed.
Take notes, people. Defeatist and
non-confrontational types are
always defeated.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:24:47 -0700
"~¿~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:OXDV6.1682$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >
> > > Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact
that
> > > here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his
country,
> > > but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer?
Where's
> > > the American freedom there?
> >
> > It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > of the liberal mindset. That law was as recent
> > as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > that one get put into place is because of
> > a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > word.
>
> How many democratic presidents were there in the 70's?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
> I've never heard such ass-backwards logic in my life.
> You MUST be a republican. Only people AFRAID of freedom inact such laws.
You Democrats are the ones who keep wanting more
government to "protect" people. You're the ones
who want socialism, and for everyone to have the
same amount of finances. You're the one who is
afraid to let people be free.
> What about pot for medical purposes? Nope, can't have that. Somebody
might
Did you know that marijuana was discovered to cause
brain tumors, Einstein?
> actually feel good while their Glaucoma is relieved. You think that it is
a
> liberal view that keeps this illegal?
If you Dems are so "free" oriented, please explain
why Tipper made policy to force recording companies
to label their CDs? Why does she continue to fight
to censor them on top of that?
Read some news on what DefJam records is going
through, and you'll see how "free" Dems want
things.
> Do al little research and take a history course, please. It sounds as if
you
> watch cable Fox and MSNBC wayyyy toooo much.
I don't watch much T.V. at all, hippie.
> > > So while I do have a certain amount of pride in this country, part of
me
> > > is pissed off as hell about the apathy people display when they tout
the
> > > "freedom" of America when that's not entirely the case.
> >
> > That is EXACTLY the kind of viewpoint
> > that I wish more people had.
> >
> > People in this country are apathetic, because
> > that is how the liberals want them to be.
>
> People are apathetic in this country because they are stupid and placted,
> just as the conservatives want them to be.You think the expression about
Now, just as you liberal freaks want to force them
to be.
I loved the ad campaign where children were asking
their mothers for more "arsenic", and "salmonella".
That was rich. And it was a liberal campaign.
> women ..
> "keep them barefoot and pregnant" is a liberal point of view?
> Hell no. Yet it is this same logic that dictates conservative policy.
> "keep them placted and busy while we raid the kitchen and up our profits"
>
> You think conservatives want people to become educated?
> Look at their education bills. They don't want you to have a clue about
the
> true history of this country. Because if you did, you'd realize what true
> scoundrels they are. You sound as if you are their poster boy.
>
> You need to hit the books pal, and open your mind.
You need to stop relying on LSD to open your mind,
liberal freak.
> > Liberals in this country want you to think
> > that you cannot make it without them. They
> > want people to think that more govt. == more
> > freedom. The reason for this is simple: they
> > want job security, and they want control,
> > because that leads to... you guessed it, more
> > money in their pockets. After all, it's our
> > money... why the hell should we have it?
>
> See my reasons for American apathy above.
> You are a prime example.
No, people like you are the problem. You brains
are so fucked up on dope, you can think straight.
> > For example, have you noticed that Daschle and
> > Gephart have STILL been going on and on about
> > "Global Warming"? Have you heard that it was
> > discovered that the temperature measurements
> > around the globe were highly flawed when that
> > "conclusion" was reached?
>
> Oh yeah. There is no such thing as global warming.
There isn't. And it was also recently discovered
that the "hole" in the ozone layer has mysteriously
"fixed itself".
The fact of the matter is, all of the liberal
Dems like you are full of BS (Barbara Streisand)
bullshit.
> No such thing as unsafe working conditions.
Life is a risk. You can't save everyone. If
you're stupid enough to drink bugspray, then
Darwin's principle kicks in.
> No such thing <insert endless list of facts that conservatives deny here>
>
> > It turns out that the trawlers and ships that
> > were taking the readings were taking them from
> > the rear of the crafts... well, the water gets
> > warmed from the engines back there.
>
> Oh for the love of Mike. What a crock of sh ...
Do you have evidence to the contrary?
> > I'll post a URL to the story if I can find
> > it again. Kinda makes you think.
>
> Yeah, makes me think you believe everything you read if it fits your
narrow
> mindset.
>
> > You should be pissed off... I'm just as pissed
> > off as you are about such nonsense... you're
> > much more patriotic than you give yourself
> > credit for. :-)
>
> Whenever I hear the word 'patriot' I know I'm in a conversation with brain
> washed conservative.
Whenever I hear the word "save" or "protect", I know
I'm in a conversation with a dull-minded liberal
communist hippie, who thinks that everyone else is
beneath his piety, and needs his help with everything.
> How's this for compassion ....
> The Bush tax cut package saved his cabinet members over 88 billion dollars
> in taxes.
Now who's full of shit. You are so fucking uneducated.
Go read a book sometime on economics, you twit.
> What did it save you? Are you getting a tax rebate? Did you know that
almost
I will soon.
> 30% of middle class families aren't? Because they didn't qualify by making
Again, more liberal bullshit. I can't believe that you
actually buy into the crap that Daschle and Gephart spew.
> more than $6000 of TAXABLE income. Do you know what taxable income is?
Where
> is that line on an income tax form? Take a look at the % of those folks
who
> had taxable income of between $5500 and $5999. You'd be amazed. I wasn't.
> I've known what 'compassionate conservatism' meant from day one. It's a
> buzzword designed to work on folks who hold just your view of the world.
And
> it just worked, just barely. Thanks to a supreme court that by 5 to 4
holds
> just the same basic view as you. That will hopefully change, soon enough.
>
> And yes, I vote every year.
How unfortunate for me.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:36:23 -0700
"Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Stephen S. Edwards II wrote:
>
> >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact that
> >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his country,
> >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer?
Where's
> >> the American freedom there?
> >
> >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> >of the liberal mindset. That law was as recent
> >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> >that one get put into place is because of
> >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> >word.
>
> The reason such laws exist in the US is the Republican Elizabeth Dole. As
But the Doles might as well be liberals anyway, as should
some other Republicans *COUGH!*McCain*COUGH!*.
In light of how wishy-washy Bob is, it's no suprise
that Clinton got an 8-year run.
> transport secretary in the early 1980s, Mrs Dole hit on the idea of
linking
> federal highway grants to raising the legal drinking age to 21. Sadly,
even
> states that are supposed to take freedom particularly seriously, such as
> New Hampshire (motto: Live free or die) decided to take the cash.
>
> This kind of thing is fuelled by two currents in American life: petty
> puritanism and a pathological obsession with safety.
>
> America likes to think of itself as a country conceived in liberty. But it
> is also a country that was conceived by puritans. Again and again, these
> days, puritanism seems to be trumping freedom. No country treats smokers
> (or indeed tobacco companies) with such petty vindictiveness as the United
> States. As for safety, America seems to have convinced itself that the
> world is an astonishingly dangerous place, and that the only way to keep
> these dangers at bay is to regulate even the most trivial bits of
> behaviour. Hence the need to replace standard playground equipment with
> "safer" alternatives, such as one-person see-saws and transparent tubes to
> crawl through. And where else would photocopier toner come in packets that
> warn you not to eat the contents?
Again, it's the liberal mindset. Did you ever
hear about the initiative to train homeless
people to dig for food in dumpsters safely?
The liberals think that we are too stupid
to fend for ourselves. That is why people
are warned not to eat things like silica
beads, and what not... because companies are
forced to by special interest groups, and
ambulance chasers, who think they are doing
some kind of good for people "who obviously
can't fight for themselves."
How about a college course in "surfing"?
How about the "discovery" that fish "fake"
orgasms?
They actually had to do a "study" to find
that children who come from happy homes
have more self-esteem.
Bush is actually doing what he said he would
do in his campaign. Did you know that the
liberals are calling this a "strategy"?
"Telling the truth", and "keeping your
promises" is a fucking "strategy"! Does
that not boggle your mind?
Boris Yeltsin actually advised the new
Russian president that Bush was going
to be serious, and that he should take
him very seriously... what does that
tell you about Clinton?
There are just off the top of my head.
If you could just see the incredible stupidity
that the left tries to force on the American
public, you'd see why so many people such
as me are so adverse to them being in power
again.
The Liberal Democrats in WA are lying, cheating,
stealing worthless piles of steaming manure, and
they know it, and they know we know it, and they'll
do everything they can to make sure that people
see nothing but doom and gloom and are afraid of
living in order to keep themselves in power, and
therefore, in the green stuff.
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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:34:11 +1000
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >> It is in some ways. Print is much easier to read than a computer screen
> >> due having a much higher resoulution and contrast. Also, the print
> >> quailty from an expensive book is liable to be much higher than the
> >> print quality you could get out of any printer you are likely to be
> >> able to afford / have room for.
> >>
> >
> > How right you are! I used up four black print cartridges to print out
> > the Solaris 8 System Administration Manuals. My cost was about $150.
> > Each was about 700 pages and there were three manuals. Plus I had to
> > buy the large D ring notebooks to make the pages last. I think I'd
> > rather have paid the money for the manuals.
>
> OUCH!
>
> For that kind of bulk printing its worth getting a heavy duty printer
> like an HP4050.
>
> Just one quesition...
>
> How long did it take yoy to punch the holes for 2100 pages?
>
> -Ed
>
Use a power drill ;p
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:32:18 +1200
Rotten168 wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
>>YATY = Yet Another Typical Yank
>>
>>You have now been kill filed.
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
>>
>
> I've noticed that US-bashers generally announce killfiling when they
> have their asses handed to them.
>
> Personally I usually don't announce a plonk and find it odd that people
> do. The people in my killfile go in without their knowledge... just
> because they're usually not worth speaking too.
>
> Don't worry Steve, in about a month Matty will be flaming you again...
> because he just can't stand that you may be disagreeing with him and he
> won't know it. I know these people.
>
>
na, I didn't really killfile the poor bastard. I'm not a US basher,
however, what I do get pissed off about is this constant, "the US is the
best, better than the rest", and when someone questions the person,
their immidiate reaction is "[country] sucks because [medocre pusedo
fact]". All countries have issues. For example, if I were to pick on
Europe for example, one only needs to look at how over regulated and
over protect their industries are from foreign competition. Another
example, I could use the US. The US spends $19Billion on agricultural
subsidies, why? Australia, when are they going to address the issue of
the stolen generation? New Zealand, when is the economy finally going to
move into more value added goods instead of heavily relying on
agriculture? Japan, why do you have a 300% tariff on dairy goods?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:40:13 +1000
"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Try writing a file compression utility in java. Now write that same
> > utility in C or C++ using all the nice features that C and C++
> > have. The function mmap(...) can make the whole compression chore as
> > easy as rifling through a buffer. There is no comparison, the C or
> > C++ code can be so much fatser and require fewer resources, than the
> > equivilent in Java or perl.
>
> Also, with Java, you sometimes have to regress a bit. For example,
> it's not very easy to write a simple function that swaps two variables
> in Java by passing them by reference. You have to do some strange
> mutations by creating a class just so you can work with objects. I
> think your only hope is to pass an array with two elements, and swap
> the two elements.
>
that's because base types are not objects because they don't have methods
etc.
their is a Integer and a Double class for this.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:39:00 +1200
Rotten168 wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>
>>>Considering that the USA is globalizing the entire world I would
>>>say that there is an American or two who realizes the world beyond
>>>the US shores.
>>>
>>Europe has told you to piss off, New Zealand told you to piss off, and Asia
>>told you to piss off. The only lackie that wants to bum the US is Australia,
>>mind you, they have never had a train of original thought in their countries
>>history. What ever the US did, Aussie was sure to follow. The US had
>>conscription, the Aussies did that too.
>>
>
> Asia told us to piss off? The trade deficit between us and Asia is huge.
> As for New Zealand... who fucking cares?
>
> Ah yes Matty boy, it seems you're just as jealous of the Aussies as you
> are of us Yanks. Must suck to be you.
What? Australia is uncapable of creating its own foreign policy! New
Zealand used to be a UK pocket pisser, doing everything mother England
wanted. Now we have forged our own foreign policy, based on the ideals
of our own country.
>
>
>>>Are you really that ignorant to continue with that line of insult?
>>>
>>Should I use the interesting study that showed how pathetically, uneducated
>>US youth are, in terms of the world outside the US?
>>
>>Matthew Gardiner
>>
>
> Hey, we're not perfect. Nobody's perfect, dude. Just don't bash the US
> mindlessly without dealing with your own nation's inadequacies.
New Zealand has so many issues I don't know where to start, however,
when people such as what's its name, you know, the person with II after
his name, thinks the US is absolutely perfect, they never make mistakes,
they have a unblemished history, thats what gets me cheesed off.
Mathew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Street)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:37:27 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:16:30 GMT, "Quantum Leaper"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> 1. Never invade Russia. It's too big. You have problems with the
>> winter and the supply lines.
>> 2. Never fight on two fronts at once
>>
>I guess you forgot about USA. Since we fought on 2 fronts at once but you
>have to have the resources to do it.
>
Using that argument Britain fought two fronts as well. The Pacific
theatre was American dominated and the European theatre UK dominated
with some untis from each being spread across each others.
However they were not "fronts" as I mentioned neither being a land
campaign.
79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
The other 42% are made up later on.
In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle.
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