Linux-Advocacy Digest #285, Volume #35 Fri, 15 Jun 01 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: The Win/userbase! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: The Microsoft PATH. ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What does XP stands for ??? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!) (Matthew
Gardiner)
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Win/userbase!
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:33:16 -0500
Your arrogance gives you away Charlie. Stop lying.
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <2eyW6.15545$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch
wrote:
> >Charlie, it's really easy to tell when you're lying. You always give
these
> >long drawn out stories in which you insult everyone you talk to, yet they
> >never seem to understand that you are insulting them.
> >
>
> Really,
>
>
>
> >If you talked the way you claim you talked to this person in this
message,
> >nearly anyone would have either left, or punched you in the face.
> >
>
> Nope. And he'll be back again.
>
> Just as your back, time and time again.
>
> Like a fly, appearently on shit?
>
>
> >"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On a sunny afternoon, I was called upon by a Windows user
> >> to explain exactly how a virus scanner works and why his
> >> virus scanner didn't detect a virus and kill it.
> >>
> >> I explained that a virus scanner for Windows works by
> >> scanning your memory and hard drive for known patterns
> >> of existing viruses and if it finds software which matches
> >> a known pattern it will either eliminate the virus or
> >> alert the operator or both depending on how you have it
> >> set up.
> >>
> >> He then went on to ask the question again, YES BUT WHY
> >> DIDN'T IT STOP MY COMPUTER FROM BEING INFECTED!
> >>
> >> And I re-explained that a virus scanner for Windows works
> >> by scanning your memory and hard drive for KNOWN PATTERNS
> >> of EXISTING VIRUSES and if it finds software which matches
> >> a KNOWN PATTERN it will either eliminate the virus or
> >> alert the operator or both depending on how you have it
> >> set up.
> >>
> >> After hearing this again the man just shook his head and
> >> said "I heard what you said so I'll ask the question again,
> >> WHY DIDN'T MY VIRUS SCANNER KEEP MY MACHINE FROM BEING INFECTED!"
> >>
> >> I responded by saying, "The virus which infected your machine
> >> was obviously not one with a known pattern. It must have
> >> been a NEW VIRUS and not a pre-existing one which the company
> >> who wrote your virus scanning program knew about. So the virus
> >> just slipped thru the system undetected and damanged your setup."
> >>
> >> I proceeded to say "You know a virus scanner will only work in
> >> Windows if the scanner knows what to look for. If you have a
> >> NEW virus then it will not work at all. More importantly,
> >> even if you have a detected virus on your system, the virus
> >> has already infected you and it's too late to do anything
> >> about it. The Virus scanner CAN NOT REPAIR DAMAGE to DAMAGED
> >> SOFTWARE. It can only alert you it happened! That's all it
> >> can do!"
> >>
> >> He then backed up a foot and said, "Who makes the BEST VIRUS
> >> SCANNER then?"
> >>
> >> I told him "you can't buy a good Virus scanner as there is
> >> NO GOOD virus scanner as most all viruses are NEW! That
> >> under Windows relying on a Virus scanner for your security
> >> is not going to work. That as I already explained, even
> >> if it detected a virus it would be too late, the damage is
> >> done. That it's absurd to even run a virus scanner."
> >>
> >> He then told me that this was the second time he reloaded his
> >> machine from the emergency disk and he wanted me to know he
> >> was tired of reloading it and just wanted me to tell him
> >> who made the best Virus scanner. Since I was good with
> >> computers and ran Linux that he was sure I could help him
> >> solve this problem.
> >>
> >> I told him that with Linux or any Unix, executables have
> >> to be declared by the user. That people can't just click
> >> on files and expect them to execute from E-mails. And that
> >> if a user declared a script attachment an executable and
> >> ran that script the most damage he would do to his machine
> >> would be to his local home directory and nothing more.
> >>
> >> I added that with Windows, scripts can be executed by simply
> >> double clicking on them. That there was no safety net to
> >> stop people from executing scripts. And that these scripts
> >> would or could destroy everything on his hard drive as there
> >> is no concept of a home/user area in Windows. So virus scanners
> >> will NOT work and Windows is NOT designed to stop any sort
> >> of damage.
> >>
> >> I concluded that no matter how hard he tried, he would never
> >> be able to make Windows safe to use on the internet.
> >>
> >> That Windows was designed by people who haven't a clue about
> >> security and that Virus Scanners are worthless CPU wasting
> >> piles of crap which while they make the operator feel good,
> >> they do nothing for your safety nor security when operating
> >> Windows.
> >>
> >> I concluded that if this is a problem you simply need to run
> >> an OS like Linux which is designed to be run safely on the
> >> internet. The internet is viewed by the ignorant public
> >> at large as a safe electronic medium designed by geniuses
> >> for the fast and convienent use of both private citizens
> >> and business's for the greater good of the world economy!
> >> This view is absolutely WRONG! Exposing a personal computer
> >> to the internet is exactly like stripping off naked and having
> >> sex with over 1,000,000 women in less than an hour and forgetting
> >> to put on your personal protection device! The internet
> >> is in reality a thilfy dirty slut of a woman who will hurt
> >> your machine bad if it's not designed for the experience!
> >>
> >> Well the man concluded by saying, just give me a couple of
> >> names of virus scanners if you can remember any Charlie.
> >>
> >> I looked at him and said "Forget virus scanners will you!
> >> They will NEVER make your windows powered machine safe! It's
> >> impossible!"
> >>
> >> After six more go arounds the man left saying I think your
> >> right Charlie. I agree with your advice.
> >>
> >> At this time there were other Unix Sysadmins present and listening
> >> to this exchange. The man had gone 6, maybe 7 full rounds with
> >> me and still didn't even bother to listen to the advice he was
> >> asking for!
> >>
> >> I confirmed with the others after the encounter if they hear'd
> >> what was said. I asked can you believe this. The man
> >> asked ME for advice and I gave it to him and he just kept
> >> going on and on like a completely disconnected loonatic!
> >>
> >> I asked the group, "Why do they even bother to ask for advice
> >> if they are not going to take it?" "Why"
> >>
> >> I got a round of laughter from the group on that one.
> >>
> >> This is what happens when you mix high technology, Windows,
> >> and the common man - "Stupidity at the speed of light"
> >>
> >> Linux is the penguin.
> >>
> >> I have concluded that Windows is the TICK! The Colorado
> >> Rocky Mountain spotted Feaver TICK!
> >>
> >> It can't be happy just drinking blood from it's host,
> >> it must piss on the inside of your organization until it
> >> is completely dead!
> >>
> >> And I'd like to note that Windows XP is a classic example
> >> of this with it's encrypted file system. In their childish,
> >> idiotic attempt to address internet security and software
> >> piracy, they have actually managed to come up with a system
> >> which REQUIRES double the horsepower it took to run a NT
> >> box or a Linux box.
> >>
> >> And I'm positive that the stupid public at large will
> >> in the future be asking for advice on the best virus scanner
> >> to run on an encrypted XP file system -- AND -- that these
> >> virus scanners will be selling in the millions and billions
> >> of quantities!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!
> >>
> >> Microsoft has created millions of extremely dangerous
> >> people in American business's. They may have just spelled
> >> an end to our E-business way of life.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Charlie
> >> -------
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Charlie
> -------
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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Microsoft PATH.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:51:53 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Ghost
In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Paolo Ciambotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:29:51 -0700
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dave Martel"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>>And I'm still stuck trying to wend my way through the Zork trilogy.
>>>>
>>>>"Xyzzy". "Plugh". Remember? Remember without drugs?
>>>
>>> "You are in a maze of twisty little wintrolls..."
>>>
>>>
>>"... all alike."
>>
>>Wait.... that makes sense. I smell a wumpus.
>
> Bats nearby!
>
> I feel a draft...
>
Pssst... I think we've lost the newbies.
I used to hunt the Wumpus on an HP-9845 (?). Translated it from a BASIC
listing in a magazine whose name I've forgotten, although I'm pretty sure
they're not around any longer. Ported that damned dodecahedron to every
system I've ever owned except this one.
Hmmmm..... wonder if the thing still lives on the web?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:45:08 -0400
Rick wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Translation:
> > >
> > > AARON is a closet homosexual, which is why he makes such a big deal
> > > about trying to distance himself from it.
> >
> > Oh yes, the old fag "anyone who opposes us is secretly one of us" routine.
> >
> > There's a reason nobody ever believes that, fag..
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps this is why he never gets any sex.
> >
> > I do...with WOMEN.
> >
>
> Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
> your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
only if the women are putting sand or other abrasives in their vaginas.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:46:01 -0400
Rick wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Fernandinande Le Mur wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:13:19 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> expounded:
> > >
> > > <
> > > <If I recall right, San Francisco was notorious for gay bathhouses that
> > > <ran all night.
> > > <When aids became a problem, most of the bathhouses shutdown. I suspect
> > > <that this helped in reducing the spread of aids some. Then public
> > > <education on tv started via commercials, but the aids has gotten into
> > > <every sector of life its starting to blur the lines. Africa, at least
> > > <what we've been spoon fed on the news, is suffering heavily from aids.
> > > <Not exactly sure what their real problem is over there. The news is
> > > <sort of vague about it.
> > >
> > > The popmedia is dishonest about reporting on AIDS in Africa because
> > > they don't want to burst the bubble that AIDS is a threat to the
> > > general population, rather than just to some specific sub-groups.
> > >
> > > About a year ago Scientific American had a fairly PC article about
> > > AIDS in Africa and blamed rampant prostitution combined with sexual
> > > practices which cause small amounts of bleeding ("dry sex", or women
> > > putting sand, baboon urine and such in their vaginas before fucking -
> > > no, I'm not kidding). In other words, the AIDS epidemic in Africa
> > > is the result of the sexual behavior of the victims.
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > With modern screening in the blood supply (i.e. source of transfusions),
> > in this day and age, the ONLY way to get AIDS is to behave like a MORON.
> >
> > --
>
> You claim to have sex with multiple partners. I guess you are a moron.
It takes more than that for a 100% heterosexual man.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:46:51 -0400
Rich Soyack wrote:
>
> "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Translation:
> > > >
> > > > AARON is a closet homosexual, which is why he makes such a big deal
> > > > about trying to distance himself from it.
> > >
> > > Oh yes, the old fag "anyone who opposes us is secretly one of us"
> routine.
> > >
> > > There's a reason nobody ever believes that, fag..
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps this is why he never gets any sex.
> > >
> > > I do...with WOMEN.
> > >
> >
> > Women. Thats plural. Thats multiple sexual partners. Well, did you know
> > your risk of contracting HIV is increasing exponentially?
>
> What is the risk of infection, for a man, from vaginal sex? From anal sex,
> with the
> man being the receiver? Receiving a blow job? Giving one? I never see
> these statistics
> published anywhere?
That's because it would expose the lie of the "impending heterosexual AIDS explosion"
which....is....over 20 years late in arriving.
>
> Rich Soyack
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does XP stands for ???
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:48:36 +1200
Stuart Fox wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>>You really are dense aren't you Matt? One guy complains because MS
>>>completes it's sockets implementation to make it standards compliant,
>>>
> and
>
>>>now it's a security hole? It's a security hole in most *nixes then as
>>>well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>How many complete, and utter luser/morons do you see using UNIX?
>>
>
> I can think of a few. Just the other day I had to explain to a Unix admin
> what an MX record was.
>
>
>
Please explain oh wise one, what is a MX record, because some people may
have different names to what you are talking about.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when Linux
starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:52:29 +1200
Chad Myers wrote:
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>>Rotten168 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rotten168 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thaddius Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well, well, lookie what we have here... another mullet rising up
>>>>>>>>>in the name of government handouts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>As for US social problems vs. what's happening in Europe, I can
>>>>>>>>>vouch for the US not experiencing genocide within her borders
>>>>>>>>>like that which is taking place in Europe today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What country(s) may that be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Balkan countries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>They aren't in the European Union and as a result donot come under the
>>>>>>European Union's Humans Rights Act.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew Gardiner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Regardless, it occurred and Europeans did nothing to stop it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>THe holocast was occuring for years, business mean like Ford used forced
>>>>labour in Germany during the war, yet the US did nothing about it. So,
>>>>I'd say the US is tarnished with the same brush.
>>>>
>>>>Matthew gardiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>No doubt... but no one is innocent. What's important is that it doesn't
>>>happen again.
>>>
>>>
>>However, it seems the Jews haven't learnt. They sign a peace treaty with
>>the palastinians, they two days later INVADE the territory, settle, then
>>wonder why the palistinians are so pissed off! whats worse, the US does
>>nothing about it! Hence the reason why the Palistinians believe the US
>>is bias against them.
>>
>
> What about when the Jews sign a cease fire then a Palestinian walks into
> a coffe shop with a bomb strapped to his chest. That's ok, right, because
> he wasn't a jew?
>
> So what you're saying is, it's ok when Palestinians ignore their
> treaties, but it's bad when the Jews do?
>
> -c
>
>
>
THe Palastinians ignore the treaty because as soon as it is signed, the
Israelies are back to their dirty old tricks.
Matthew Gardiner
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