On Oct 19, 2015 7:25 AM, "Austin S Hemmelgarn" <ahferro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2015-10-17 11:58, Tobias Markus wrote:
>>
>> Add capability CAP_SYS_USER_NS.
>> Tasks having CAP_SYS_USER_NS are allowed to create a new user namespace
>> when calling clone or unshare with CLONE_NEWUSER.
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> Linux 3.8 saw the introduction of unpriviledged user namespaces,
>> allowing unpriviledged users (without CAP_SYS_ADMIN) to be a "fake" root
>> inside a separate user namespace. Before that, any namespace creation
>> required CAP_SYS_ADMIN (or, in practice, the user had to be root).
>> Unfortunately, there have been some security-relevant bugs in the
>> meantime. Because of the fairly complex nature of user namespaces, it is
>> reasonable to say that future vulnerabilties can not be excluded. Some
>> distributions even wholly disable user namespaces because of this.
>>
>> Both options, user namespaces with and without CAP_SYS_ADMIN, can be
>> said to represent the extreme end of the spectrum. In practice, there is
>> no reason for every process to have the abilitiy to create user
>> namespaces. Indeed, only very few and specialized programs require user
>> namespaces. This seems to be a perfect fit for the (file) capability
>> system: Priviledged users could manually allow only a certain executable
>> to be able to create user namespaces by setting a certain capability,
>> I'd suggest the name CAP_SYS_USER_NS. Executables completely unrelated
>> to user namespaces should and can not create them.
>>
>> The capability should only be required in the "root" user namespace (the
>> user namespace with level 0) though, to allow nested user namespaces to
>> work as intended. If a user namespace has a level greater than 0, the
>> original process must have had CAP_SYS_USER_NS, so it is "trusted" anyway.
>>
>> One question remains though: Does this break userspace executables that
>> expect being able to create user namespaces without priviledge? Since
>> creating user namespaces without CAP_SYS_ADMIN was not possible before
>> Linux 3.8, programs should already expect a potential EPERM upon calling
>> clone. Since creating a user namespace without CAP_SYS_USER_NS would
>> also cause EPERM, we should be on the safe side.
>
>
> Potentially stupid counter proposal:
> Make it CAP_SYS_NS, make it allow access to all namespace types for 
> non-root/CAP_SYS_ADMIN users, and teach the stuff that's using userns just to 
> get to mount/pid/net/ipc namespaces to use those instead when it's something 
> that doesn't really need to think it's running as root.
>
> While this would still add a new capability (which is arguably not a good 
> thing), the resultant capability would be significantly more useful for many 
> of the use cases.

Then you'd have to come up with some argument that it could possibly
be safe.  You'd need *at least* no_new_privs forced on.  You would
also have fun defining the privilege to own such a namespace once
created.

--Andy
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