> For instance, I believe that we have at least a third person announcing
> that they will create a site where an x86 ARM cross toolchain will be
> available from.  However, because it is distributed across a wide number
> of hosts, it gets lost, and then someone else comes along and announces
> the same thing.  Eventually we end up with some people going to one site,
> and someone else creating another toolchain.

If you mean the emdebian.org people, they are pretty accurately targeting
these problems with coordination from some ARM Linux types; I don't think
at all that this is how their effort will end up.

> I have always offered to provide FTP space on the main site - in fact
> there has always been a set of cron scripts running which automagically
> mail me when stuff gets uploaded into /pub/linux/arm/incoming so that
> it can be moved into the appropriate area, but I've yet to see anyone
> take up on this.

I think terming ftp.arm.linux.org.uk `the main site' is a little
contentious; ftp.netwinder.org (amongst others) contains at least as
much data important to the Linux/ARM project.  So eventually, I hope,
will ftp.armlinux.org.

> As it stands, the "community" is becoming very fragmented with little or
> even no communication between the parties,

The Linux/ARM project is, certainly in places, stricken with this problem;
projects proceed in their relatively insulated autonomous groups, not,
I think, owing to any sort of unsociability, but just a lack of conscious
organisation at a higher level: it is a question that needs thought as to
whether and what kind of higher organisation is desirable.

armlinux.org is, incidentally, a part of my effort to remedy this sort of
problem.

> especially the 'armlinux.org'
> group who appear to keep themselves completely to themselves.  This is
> BAD, since it will lead to decay of quality, not improvement.

armlinux.org really is little more than a WHOIS record at the moment:
this accusation is a paranoid one.  There is no `armlinux.org group' or
mafia; it is a domain name (and collection of i386/ARM machines) intended
to help foster open development, communcation, and web/FTP/shell space
for whoever might need it.

c.


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