On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 03:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > . If I don't have knowledge I have to > read and to ask, I just reported and asked, and get acidness.
no, thats not the issue. i think you don't understand that we (JACK) developers see these issues reported day after day after day, not just by you but by other people. they are all issues that, for the most part, we are powerless to affect. the issues are caused/created/affected by the actions of distribution packagers and can only be solved by them. it is incredibly frustrating watching user after user after user grapple with stupid system configuration problems that we did not create just to try to get JACK to run. whether its the complete lack of any way to get real time scheduling to work, or the wrong version of PAM or the wrong kernel or no version of limits.conf to edit, or no pre-existing user group, or an ancient version of JACK, or a version of JACK with a totally broken and utterly ridiculous library dependency name, or versions of JACK built with the wrong assembler options ... watching users struggle with this stuff is just incredibly frustrating and sometimes that spills over to our interactions with users. i for one am close to abandoning all efforts to provide support & assistance to people using JACK on anything other than a small handful of Linux distributions, because i am sick and tired of this ridiculous situation. its been nearly 4 years since we got mainstream kernels that were capable of supporting JACK and pro-audio/music apps out of the box. the fact that users today are still dealing with the total crapfest that we see every day on IRC and on the mailing lists is just totally unacceptable. i don't know whose fault it is (maybe its mine, i'm not ruling it out), but its a totally waste of everyone's time. distros: people want creativity apps on linux. for audio this means that you users will run JACK. with realtime scheduling priviledges. and they will possibly upgrade JACK before you do. fix it! please! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev