On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:39:44AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:

> > Regardless of all this: a private person or group
> > can't ever do this. Only law enforcement or the
> > justice system can, and in the case of the first
> > it is temporary (for securtiy or investigation),
> > and if not it needs confirmation by a court.
> 
> Not so. In most cases of seizure at borders (e.g., US/Canada, US/Mexico)
> the property is never returned, ever. The people who loose their property
> never get a day in court, ever. Look it up, it is a fact.

You are completely missing the point, which is:

*You*, as a private person, can not seize anything,
ever. And if you think it's immoral for the law to
do it, then it is even more so if someone takes the
law into his own hands and appoints himself to be
cop, judge and executioner.

Ciao,

-- 
FA

Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia รจ troppo stretta e lunga.

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