On 08/09/2009 10:35 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >> >> On 08/09/2009 10:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 08/09/2009 08:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: >>>>> Patrick Shirkey: >>>>> >>>>>> On 08/08/2009 09:57 PM, Jens M Andreasen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:44 +1000, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's what I have found after extensive testing with the >>>>>>>> latest dev >>>>>>>> version of pulseaudio-v0.9.16-4 and jack-0.116.1 on a 2 core >>>>>>>> amd, 4GB >>>>>>>> notebook running Fedora 11. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. 32 bit apps will not play on a 64 bit pulseaudio easily or >>>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>>> 2. Skype, Realplayer/Helix and Flash are a pain to get working >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> pulseaudio if they work at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> These two items are related, right? Does it go away with a >>>>>>> 32bit/extended kernel? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't tested with a 32 bit system. I'm not sure if I will get >>>>>> the >>>>>> time for that. I don't think in this case it has much to do with the >>>>>> kernel. I think it is because pulse is compiled for 64 bit and >>>>>> the apps >>>>>> are looking for 32 bit libs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, there's your problem. It's great that you try out new >>>>> software though, but of course then you'll get more stability >>>>> issues as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To clarify, I have found that is difficult to get 32 bit apps to >>>> connect to a 64 bit build of pulseaudio but these apps don't cause >>>> stability issues with pulse. The problem is they just don't >>>> connect. I can still run them directly over the alsa layer but that >>>> locks the device in a standard Fedora 11 setup. I believe this >>>> would affect alot of "normal" users so I would like to find a >>>> workable solution that can be recommended to all packagers as a LAD >>>> standard. >>> >>> No, as I said, the solution is very simple: Don't install a 64 bit >>> OS. That's what's causing your problems, apparently. >>> >> >> >> Oh, I get you now. >> >> So are you advocating that the official recommendation of LAD is not >> to use a 64 bit system? >> > > I'm not sure what you mean by official recommendation, but from what > you describe, 64 bit systems can cause problems when using flash and > pulseaudio. >
64 bit libflashplayer is hard coded to use /usr/lib/ and on Fedora 11 the 64 bit alsa-libs live in /usr/lib64/. I'm not sure that is a problem with a 64 bit system, libflashplayer or just Fedora's packaging policy. I am guessing that it affects a lot of people. The stability issues I have seen are not related to libflashplayer. That issue is more of a usability issue in that firefox/libflashplayer doesn't release the alsa device which makes it hard to use jack or other apps that require access to the alsa device. Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev