Fons Being someone that tracks recordings live constantly, I am curious, if the singer only wanted to overdub one section of their vocals with another, and you are not touching the remainder of the recorded tracks, exactly what stops you from doing a standard punch in/out in your example?
Even if you are referring to replacing a mixdown take, I am not certain 4 point editing is to much of a benefit there persay to be honest, as I have done this without it quite well in the past as I often have to edit down recordings for dance choreographers for modified music in a way you can't tell it is edited obviously. I have never used 4 point editing, and have done mixing of all varieties, musical and non, from many different genres including some classical. There are points where I can easily see 4 point editing being useful as has been explained to me in the past by people that do use it, but this is not one of them if I am understanding your question correctly. (Of course I can't think of a good example at the moment where I was thinking it would be useful, but I remember being told some in the past and thinking it would be). Seablade On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Fons Adriaensen <f...@linuxaudio.org>wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > > the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is > > some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of > > approaching the task that leads to needing to do "the following" is > > rooted in an older way of thinking about the overall workflow. > > Tell that to your customer when he (or she in this case) wants you > to replace part of an edited track with the same fragment from > another take. > > A simple case: > > < > http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/d_amor_sull_ali_rosee2.mp3 > > > > After this was edited (9 fragments from 4 takes), the singer wanted > to replace the part "del prigioniere misero conforta l'egra mente" > [2:03 to 2:27] by another take. > > Now I could have told her that what she wanted was 'rooted in an > older way of thinking', or that she was stupid and should have had > that bright idea before we had done the five edits following this > fragment, but I didn't and actually performed the edit to her > satisfaction. > > Now this was a simple demo with just the piano instead of a full > orchestra. The latter could easily be more than 20 tracks if the > recording is done live and no mics must be visible. And mixing it > before editing is usually *not* and option. > > > Quiz2: there are 10 edits in this recording, free beer at LAC2011 > if you can find 5 of them. > > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-dev mailing list > Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev >
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