On 03/12/2013 04:23 PM, Tim E. Real wrote:
Hi, I need some advice, clear up some confusion:

I noticed our app uses this pan formula:

        vol_L = volume * (1.0 - pan);
        vol_R = volume * (1.0 + pan);

  where volume is the fader value, pan is the pan knob value
  which ranges between -1.0 and 1.0, and vol_L and vol_R are the
  factors to be applied to the data when sending a mono signal
  to a stereo bus.

When pan is center, 100% of the signal is sent to L and R.
At pan extremities, the signal is boosted by 3dB.

But according to [1], we should be using a Pan Law [2],
  where pan center is around 3dB to 6dB down and pan
  extremities is full signal.

So I want to change how we mix mono -> stereo and use
  true Pan Law. I could add a Pan Law selector, seems like it
  might be useful for various studio acoustics.

Then I noticed we use the same formula above to apply 'balance'
  (using the same pan knob) when sending a stereo signal to
  a stereo bus.

But according to [3] we should be using a true balance control, not those
  same pan factors above. And according to [1]:
"Note that mixers which have stereo input channels controlled by a single
  pan pot are in fact using the balance control architecture in those channels,
  not pan control."

So I want to change how we mix stereo -> stereo and use true balance.

But then I checked some other apps to see what they do.
In an unofficial test I noticed that QTractor seems to do the same thing,
  that is, when pan is adjusted on a stereo track, one meter goes up while
  the other goes down. RG seems not to have stereo meters and Ardour
  I couldn't seem to make pan affect the meters, I will try some more.
My questions:

Is the pan formula above popular?

What is the consensus on stereo balance - use a Pan Law, being the
  formula above or otherwise, or use a true balance?

What should I do in the remaining case sending a stereo signal to a mono bus?
If I am using a Pan Law as balance, the two signals will have already been
  attenuated at pan center so I could simply sum the two channels together.
But if instead I use true balance, at center the two signals are 100%.
So should I attenuate the signals before summing them to a mono bus?
Currently as our pan formula above shows, there would be no attenuation.

you are right - it should attenuate in the middle and gain increase as you move. i hate balance controls because you can't move the image around the panorama. if you have a stereo piano sample for example, you need to move all the "sample data" around the sound stage - not hear an amplified L channel and an attenuated R channel which is the balance model. Balance is for home stereo's. Pan is for grown ups :)

you're on the right track fior sure Tim

hth

g
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