people still use abelton? geez with NI tractor ns8 I can't imagine or phathom needing a slow antiquated midi based performance piece LOL
Ron Stewart On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Robin Gareus <ro...@gareus.org> wrote: > On 09/20/2016 01:40 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > >> On 09/20/2016 07:03 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >>> > >>> Because netjack isn't good enough > >> > >> correct. > >> > >> jack can have a single timebase master and likewise netjack has a single > >> net-master. > >> > >> Ableton-Link is decentralized: Multiple performers can interact with > >> each other on an equal level (no master/slave semantics). > >> > >> It's not groundbreaking tech. Laptop orchestras and the likes have used > >> similar techniques since a while, but all prior-art that I know is > ad-hoc. > >> > >> As far as I know this is the only protocol concerning *musical-time* > >> that's spec'ed out, has a cross-platform reference implementation and > >> potential to find its way into hardware. > >> > >> Feel free to criticize the protocol on a technical level or hunt for > >> bugs in the implementation ... or simply ignore it silently. > >> > > > > So then the next question would be is there any reason NOT to integrate > it > > directly into JACK? > > > > There's an existing feature request already: [1] > > > JACK cannot be slaved to anything. jackd is always master, so there's a > conceptual conflict. > > Closest concept is jack-timebase master [2]. A client can provide > musical-time to jack and thereby to all jack clients that support jack > transport. > > So yes, there are some reasons to not *directly* integrate it, but like > existing jack tools [3] (jack_lsp, jack_connect, jack_transport,...) it > could be included with jack one way or another. Seamless integration is > possible. It just needs someone to do the work. > > Rui already has a working standalone prototype (no timebase support yet, > but it's a good start). > > There are also some technical details to be sorted out: e.g. the current > Link reference implementation requires C++11, jack-tools are C89... but > those are details. > > > Cheers! > robin > > > [1] https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2/issues/231 > [2] http://jackaudio.org/files/docs/html/group__TransportControl.html > [3] https://github.com/jackaudio/tools > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-dev mailing list > Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev >
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