You're right, I need a coffee break :-). But before I do that... > i think everyone appreciates food for thought, but (at least to me) the > wording of some of the opinions in this thread was rather suboptimal and > might easily provoke some strong rhetoric in defense. > let's just all take a deep breath and stop the jack bashing.
No one is bashing jack and constructive criticism never hurt anyone. Just because it's not shrink-wrapped with cherry and whipped cream on top, it does not mean it's somehow geared towards bashing. If I had time to talk with Paul in person, I am sure I'd choose a smoother way of expressing my concerns. But on mailing lists, I don't have the time to proofread and make every statement of mine a Shakespearen creation of thousand words. (yet I am here ranting and ranting away... oh, well...) > this thread has some ugly similarities to the "reborn" flamefest and > that curious religious EULA of nasca's synthesizer: it's criticizing > *people* for something we wouldn't even have if not for those very same > people. I am thankful for Jack, but at the same time that does not mean there should be no criticism. If you are referring to me criticizing Paul's statements, then how do we dare criticize Linus Torvalds for letting OSS happen? After all, he is the one who made Linux, without him Linux would have never been. And since we use it, should we simply shut up and use it with OSS? ;-) Now, onto that coffee... Cheers! Ico