-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Le 22 Juin 2003 13:46, Ivica Bukvic a écrit :
> Again, please read what I've stated and then respond. I am not > advocating the change of GPL, but creating a new derived license which > simply ensures that the efforts of the open-source community primarily > benefit (gasp!) us, the open-source community, not some company with > monopolistic agenda, regardless how successful (Msft) or unsuccessful > they are (Apple). Guess what: your derived license would be incompatible with the GPL or any OSI license. You don't understand what free software is. Including free software within closed source software is wrong, but allowing free software to run on any platform is good, as long as the source code is released. The restrictions imposed by the GPL are meant to make sure that derived works are released with the source code. M$ and Apple always included free softwares in their operating systems, but they often (always in the case of M$) "forgot" to release the source code of their modifications. What they're doing is wrong, but the free software community would be stupid to play their game by restricting usage of free software to free operating systems. > Being "elitist" towards outsiders who express even a mild interest in > the Linux/oss community will repel them before they even get a chance > to taste the good aspects of Linux. Are you stating that I'm elitist because I use command line tools? I never agreed with gui users that believe their tools are easier and better for ordinary people. These tools are sometimes so complicated and badly designed that the only reasonable command to use is "quit". As much as you think they should use a gui because you believe they can't use anything else, I think ordinary people should use free command line tools because they can. Text is not elitist, and it's still the easiest and most powerful intellectual technology. Have you ever tried to reduce a bunch of images (let's say 10000) with Photoshop? It's much easier and efficient with the ImageMagick command line tools. Am I elitist because I use a better (and free) tool which happens to be text based? I may be part of an elite, but I'm not requiring anybody to use the same free tools as me. Even M$ uses ImageMagick in their Office suite, but they charge a fortune to include this free tool in a closed source product. That's wrong, and that's why I believe ordinary people should learn to use free tools the "elite" way. I don't care about Linux. I care about free software. I don't care if the Linux kernel runs on proprietary hardware, like I don't care if a free software runs on top of a proprietary OS. I'd much prefer that everything, from the silicon chip to the gui tools were made entirely free, but since I must choose, I prefer that free software be allowed to run on top of non-free software. The free software movement is not purist, it's trying to make this world better by rational and ethical means. Hopefully, at some point, most of the computing chain will be free, including the hardware. - -- Marc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+9juVQdzoeKQ0PccRAmRHAJ403MJ59YlMlq7KBKqfkuIGPX7EuACcCJOT /c4wsrsDUzGP7I6369MHjII= =flAg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----