On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 21:46, Shayne O'Connor wrote: > Jean-Marc Valin wrote: > > >>If someone sets up this forum, and more than twice of us sign > >>up, that should show those arrogant lklm-people that there are really > >>_a lot_ of us, and that we are strong, and very angry. Hah! > >> > >> > > > >First, please stop this "arrogant lkml-people" attitude, it won't help. > >Second, I would think that instead of a petition with just lots of names > >on it, I would prefer a letter signed by the maintainers of as many > >Linux projects as possible, i.e. not signed as "Jean-Marc Valin", but > >"Speex maintainer" (Jack maintainer, GnomeMeeting, ...). I'm sure this > >would give a lot more weight to the proposition. > > > > > > > i would have though a petition from *users* who have gone through the > hell of trying to set up their linux system for audio would be a *lot* > better than, from what i can tell, is an already exhausted path ... > > i'm sure the maintainers/developers of linux audio projects could give a > lot more *authority* but i'm sure us users could lend a lot more *weight*. > > anyhow, why not do the obvious and combine the two approaches - the > developers/maintainers can draft a petitionary letter to the Kernel > developers, signed as you suggest "Speex maintainer" etc. this can then > be put up on an appropriately set up website where LAUers can add their > name in support ... > > ... something along these lines anyway ... > > i think it would be a huge mistake, though, to issue any sort of > statement/letter/petition that didn't at least make an *attempt* to > incorporate the large and growing base of Ordinary linux audio users. > >
I agree completely. Another thing that Shayne pointed out in an earlier post is worth mentioning again. There are a ton of people who would like to dump Windoze and come over but it's too difficult at the moment. We have a "chicken-and-egg" problem here. Until the system is ready we won't get users, and those who are in charge of getting the system ready don't think there are enough users. Jan