I think we should take it for what it is:  a whiney rant from someone
who is famous for whining about anything and everything.


sorry, but i don't agree.

Why should we care what jwz thinks?

jwz, like it or not, leads opinion. he makes news. agree with him or disagree with him: you're still being led into an opinion on a subject as a result of his effort, either way.

such opinion-cults are all the FOSS world -has- for a PR front. this one happens to be negative. its quite possible, however, that a counter to his position would work *positively*, if we were prepared to organize it a bit. i'd be quite happy, actually, to submit to /. a "never mind jwz, linux audio rocks!" style article which puts the actual -facts- on the table for anyone wanting to check out linux audio. blowback PR works, if timed right, and delivered properly. maybe you'll be thanking jwz in a week or two ..

Let him publicly cry and run to OSX
- see if I care.


if we allow the falsehoods regarding linux audio to be spread by his infamy/fame, whiney or not, washed out or not, we're doing ourselves (audio hackers) a disservice. is it not poignant enough for you that "the OSS guys" are using the jwz attack on ALSA to pimp their way of doing things? should FOSS authors really eat themselves in such ways? screw that! just tell -me- what works, and i'll make sure folks know about it!

Addressing the concerns of people looking for help on this list is a
million times more important than some nonsense PR campaign to counter
the rant of a whiney dotcom washout that happened to get slashdotted.


look, PR is a big problem with linux audio. taking -some- degree of responsibility for it is a step to solve that. not all problems with linux audio are purely technical; mostly, it seems, its education.

all good education efforts start with overt PR about the subject, presenting reasons why its worth educating oneself further .. a shiny boot-CD DAW 'That Just Works' (tm) will attract far more users than endless reams of archives describing 'how to fix things yourself'. hell, a list of known working configs from various well known individuals may just be all we need. my audio system may not work right now, but a boot-CD/list of known working systems will serve to provide hope when there may be very little.

describe the working systems, promote the solutions not the problems.

continually working on a 'this is broke -> fix it' basis is one thing; working on a 'this works -> use it' basis is another thing entirely. i happen to think the latter approach produces better results when it comes to getting people interested in fixing their tools themselves, especially when casual observers are tipped over the edge from "just looking at how bad things are" to "active participant actually -using- the tools to do something cool because it was demonstrated that such things can be done" ..

jwz -does- have a point. its not the 90's. he really shouldn't have had such problems with getting his freakin' audio working. its not a technical issue; its an organizational one. counter his argument with success, and the whole scene gets turned around: suddenly, linux audio is cooler than it was a week ago.

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Jay Vaughan

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